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 I was just on Ausfish site and saw a forum what is everybory,s thoughts on fishing tackle chain stores such as BCF Tackleworld in WA.

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chain stores

Sun, 2011-07-17 20:11

Not sure what this is about, but say if a chain store like bluewater came onboard Fw, would you support them?

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yes

Sun, 2011-07-17 20:16

yes

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There's already 2 stores on

Sun, 2011-07-17 20:40

There's already 2 stores on here would you need a big chain store as well? Support the little guys I say, big guys don't need another avenue of advertising.

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they do the job

Sun, 2011-07-17 20:12

its like anything. Some people are happy to spend $5 and some $5000. Some people like small stores for individual service then sometimes you want quick in and out for a basic item.

 

if there was no demand for them, they would't exist.  I use both depending on what Im after and where I am.

 

Each to their own.

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Yep definately like the small

Sun, 2011-07-17 20:22

Yep definately like the small store service.I'm not bothered with $ issue it's more quality with me. The bigger stores have their place for the average punter who is chasing cheap.

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Chain store opinions

Sun, 2011-07-17 21:55

Just wondering what other people think of chain stores and what they mean to customers as for FW i love and not to much s--t gets thrown around compared to some of the forums i have been on over the past few weeks every one has their own opinion and entitled to it As for me i love the small Tackle shops but they are fading out due to the big companies moving in and getting good bulk buys i think in years to come the small shops will be very few and select like Campbells pro tackle.I know its owners will not let that shop fall by the way side.

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They sold that years ago.....

Tue, 2011-07-19 09:16

They sold that years ago.....

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cambells = bcf = supercheap auto

Sun, 2011-07-17 22:01

Not sure what you mean by small shops if campbells is your reference.

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Isn't Campbells owned by BCF

Sun, 2011-07-17 22:02

Isn't Campbells owned by BCF now?

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Well spotted lads

Sun, 2011-07-17 22:04

very well done

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Sorry guys but it all comes

Sun, 2011-07-17 22:27

Sorry guys but it all comes down to price in my world.

If I can save a dollar here & there I will.

 

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I'd hardly call Bluewater a

Sun, 2011-07-17 22:28

I'd hardly call Bluewater a chain store. 4 metro shops owned by the same family for decades isn't really like BCF muscling in trying to out price the little guys. Locally owned stores are the go, whether they own one or four shops.

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Spot on Tim, it's a different

Sun, 2011-07-17 22:32

Spot on Tim, it's a different kettle of fish. (pun intended)

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campbells

Sun, 2011-07-17 22:39

yeah it may well be owned by BCF though is it,s own identity and only one shop not a chain

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it may fly under a

Sun, 2011-07-17 23:14

it may fly under a independant name but the $$$ still end up in the same pocket. Big difference between being locally owned and pretending to be locally owned.

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Personally I still get the

Mon, 2011-07-18 00:07

Personally I still get the small shop service at my local Bluewater. The only places I dont go for advise is BCF and Anaconda, even the guy down at Getaway Joondalup talks like he knows what he is on about, but I never have had the chance to check his word.

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Bill

Mon, 2011-07-18 11:06

Bill at Getaway is a old salt dog from way back from cray fishing to guideing on his on charter boat and does not beat around the bush and is also ex BCF

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Bill is one of my fishing

Mon, 2011-07-18 19:18

Bill is one of my fishing budies and he has left this shop moving on to much brighter opportunities.

He is a true fishing encyclopedia and a wonderfull chap to boot!

A sad loss as the other guy is not of the same Ilk in any way or form

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Bill is a great old bloke Had

Tue, 2011-07-19 09:19

Bill is a great old bloke Had the privellage of working with him at BCF and I learnt a lot He knows his stuff. Top bloke

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also

Mon, 2011-07-18 01:40

half the time if a rod is say more expensive at the local store, rather than the national company,
they will match or better the price, so thats a win win: supporting the little stores, best advice/service and good on your pocket

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Win Win?

Mon, 2011-07-18 09:32

Hardley a win for the local tackle store to have to match a price probably below their cost price to appease supposedly loyal customers.  BCF and the other chains have national bulk buying power and can afford low margins on items like rods and reels and make mega bucks by having huge markups on smaller items.

Straight out of school I went looking for a job and worked for Bunnings at the beginning of 1999 for 18 months.  Bunnings was going away from traditional hardware and timber and into warehouse stores after they sent a delegation to the US to study Home Depot and basically copied their idea after being bought out by Wesfarmers. Bunnings had little or no presence in the Eastern States outside of timber and Home Hardware was trying to make inroads to the WA market.  Wesfarmers bought out Home Hardware and Bunnings went national with the conversion of Home Hardware to Bunnings stores.  The ACCC had an investigation and ruled that the buyout was not anti competive.

In Bunnings Warehouses the items you see for sale on the aisle ends with the large chalkboards and heaps of stock are often sold under cost rate.  This is a deliberate ploy to get people in to the store and from there they rely on Add on sales, value adding or suggestive selling by their sales people to sell products with a much higher markup (some up to 1500%).  It goes like this: A customer comes in wanting to replace a door, sales person shows them doors, then suggests that the client needs a drill, drill bits, planer, holesaw, chisel, hammer, hinges, door handle/lock, paint, paint brushes, drop sheet, masking tape etc.  The door, drill and planer might only have 5-15% markup, but all the money is made in all the other items.

BCF is the same, you buy a rod and reel, and then they sell you leader, swivels, line, hooks, sinkers, lures, a scaler, a knife, tackle box, bait, burley, head torch, bucket, rod holder etc.  Keep in mind they are not generally targeting the experienced fisherpeople.  They are after the one off 'im going on a trip to x and I havent fished since I was a kid' or 'my kids want to go fishing and I dont know anything' clients, and they generally are pretty successful at making a mint from them.

Maybe a little buyer conscience from time to time would help.  No point forcing the local small store to sell at under cost as its as good a method of making them go out of business as not shopping there.  You might be better off buying the rod and reel from a chain store and buying the profit margin items from a small store and get the advice.

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I buy nearly all of my gear

Mon, 2011-07-18 09:39

I buy nearly all of my gear from a 1 store operation. Get way better prices than any 'Chain store' going around - if you can get it cheaper somewhere else, why wouldnt you? You wouldnt pay $50,000 more for a house to support the 'Little guy', now would you?

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Interestingly melton seem to

Mon, 2011-07-18 16:00

Interestingly melton seem to be the same people as tackle direct, so maybe they have two stores?

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Till, only you would find

Mon, 2011-07-18 18:11

Till, only you would find that! Cant beat those good prices!

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Yeah I think I only found out

Mon, 2011-07-18 19:12

Yeah I think I only found out when I sent an enquiry and I got a reply back from the other domain.

The prices are pretty exceptional and the service sure beats charkbait.

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I will support who ever

Mon, 2011-07-18 09:49

I will support who ever genuinly supports the every day consumer, this is done through service and of course PRICE!

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Ill go service and advice above price

Mon, 2011-07-18 09:53

But you can always try and haggle the price. Just bought another saragosa 8000 for the mrs after hers got "smoked" big time by what must have been a GT by the fight. I know Brad is laughing now. Still repairable but the service I got from our local tackle store, and the haggling over the price and a few laughs in the process made it worth it.

I stay local.

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Great guys good positive

Mon, 2011-07-18 11:11

Great guys good positive thread fisherman are a funny bunch a boys we all have our own opinions set in our ways  and it is hard some times to pass on advice cause we are all pros but that is what makes it exciting.

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As I said before service and

Mon, 2011-07-18 11:22

As I said before service and quality over price for me.Though I'm not going to pay ridiculous premiums and the guys where I go have competitive pricing anyway and always chuck in a couple of extra goodies. my guru even made a basic knot tying dvd and hands it out for free.

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bluewater

Mon, 2011-07-18 11:30

As i have discussed with Adam before , i would welcome Bluewater (tackleworld) as a site sponsor as they always look after me, and everyone i send there , they are a family owned company and the store i shop at (morley) is nothing like a ranger camping or BCF and  the guys that work there actually fish regularly they are commonly out at 5.30 am for a quick fish on the three mile or in the river and always share the information they get while on the water and as far as prices go they have ALWAYS  matched any price i've seen at any tackle store around. I believe they would like to become a sponsor too! you can never have too much competition in the tackle game as the end user (us fisho's) can only benefit from it .   cheers

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yeh bluewater morley is a

Mon, 2011-07-18 19:22

yeh bluewater morley is a great store and all the blokes there give great advice, i went in one day to get my stradic spooled with braid and stayed in there for a couple of hours chatting to the guys about gear, previous trips, fishing techniques and having a laugh here and there

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Interesting topic with its

Mon, 2011-07-18 11:35

Interesting topic with its ramifications around proposed sanctuaries and increased bag limit restrictions IMO. Do you think CBF will provide support/voice to us anglers in this regard? Haven’t heard them yet & I guess it would be a case of short arms & long pockets

It’s a large scale business after all so they will move on quickly to flog the next hottest items to the masses.

If you’re a true fisherman – support your local independent tackle store (be that four stores or one)  

 

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Old fart goes to

Mon, 2011-07-18 12:03

local tackle shop around the corner, as being CBPA member we get 10% off which isn't a lot but the tackle shop is a owner operator and when we had the monthly fishing comps, gave vouchers for prizes, so he keeps going there loyalty mainly plus as we fish with alvey winches don't need a lot of tackle, mainly hooks, squid jigs, fishing line etc.  

We always try to shop local.  But must say I sent 3 emails for quotes and one phone message to get connected to the sewerage but only 1 plumber answered, so he got the quote and unfortunately lives in Helena Valley, did try local plumbers but they didn't seemed interested.  So now just been informed we are connected to sewerage network, yahoo.  Just filling in the septic and two drainage tanks now.

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bcf ain't all that cheap

Mon, 2011-07-18 16:18

bcf ain't all that cheap compared to my LTS .  just had a voucher to spend in there and was quite surprised.

i try to support the little guy where i can , with terminal tackle and rods.

 

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Living in Karratha there is

Mon, 2011-07-18 16:32

Living in Karratha there is only 2 choices.  I rarely buy anything locally now, just the hooks if I wanna catch reds.

Whenever I travel, I visit every tackle shop that I see.... love the markdown bargain bins. 

I went to BCF when I was in Darwin and thought the prices were very high.  Didnt really need anything, but stumbled across a great little stick on light, which you put inside your esky lid.  When you open the esky, it automatically comes on.  Highly recommend this item for less than $20

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i went to bcf to get a gas

Mon, 2011-07-18 19:39

i went to bcf to get a gas bottle refilled and looked around for some big hooks while i was there, they had a box of mustard 12/0 j hooks out the back they gave me because they never sold them, but they gave me good advice... "these hooks ill catch huge fishes". so took my free hooks and gas and got out of there quick, my local is a tackle/bike shop and the fishing side is covered in an inch of dust. they always have awesome deals on old stock that usually you can pick up for half price on a modle a year or two old, service is outstanding and they still add up with a calculator, and when you buy bulk terminal they usually round it down to the nearest doller because its just eaiser. keeps me going back

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that sounds like jet cycles

Wed, 2011-07-20 12:00

 in gosnells?

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Yeh interesting topic as

Mon, 2011-07-18 19:42

Yeh interesting topic as prviously stated. IMO i dont tend to shop at large chain stores such as bfc and getaway outdoors. One because on many occasions I find that the prices are expensive more than that of a local smaller tackle store. Two because they only have basic ranges on rods and reels smaller tackle store tend to have a more extensive range and knowledge on rods and reels ( better quality). Three bfc and bigger stores are pathetic and shit at giving any decent advice on set ups , reels , rods specs etc SMALLER shop owners offer much better one on one advice , they get to know you and what you usually fish for an a relationship usually builds up on trust and knowledge of all the fishing gear you buy from them.  hence why i like smaller tackle stores.

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Intersting topicOn the plus

Mon, 2011-07-18 21:22

Intersting topic

On the plus side the big chain stores/monsters are good in promoting interest and key issues to the newbs and greesn like catch and release and other such topics and servicing  the 'one off' clients and mums and dads with modest interst in fishing.

On the downside their buying power is killing the industry in terms of the small owner/operator type secenario....everytime we spend a dollor at any particualr shop its ahs a direct remification on some1 elses bottom line...just look at how many smaller style shops have closed over the last 5yrs throughot perth = ALOT

This is indicative of the type of consolidation happening in a variety of industries and sectors....bottom line is at the end of the day owner/ops get slowly squeezed by the corporates with their buying power, and in time with little to no competition prices will be set by those with little likelyhood of any real competition.

petrol.... only bp has a refinary in perth and the other majors add their two dollar additives= where is the competition when one company sets a base price

shops....tween woolies and coles with their nice little duopply being slightly squezzed by iga, prices are set high in perth and generally throughout oz, some of this might be attributed to oz's small population, the ozzy $$, high standard of living, and lack of govt subsidy's to certain industry but we are being price gouged

then we have bcf, the conda, my new mate ray, ok they provide a service and get in some product cheap, but if yr really are  aware of prices they aint always that cheap ya know, my general rule of thumb is when there is a ton of adverstising that is reflected in pricing cause we ultimatly pay for it all........and with respect to the young kids who try to help, ya ussually just cant cause they simply are check out chicks....i have to exclude tackleworld from this as at least they fish and use the products and r fishos

i guess it doesn matter anymore anyways. most of the profits head overseas nowadys.... the countyr has changed alot since i was 20,  and some of it is for the worse...we are an extension of america now in  many ways

i miss cleggs in the old days when he was sober enough to serve me, allsports where i got my 1st mitchell and snyderglass, or fleets tackle where i could turn up with my mitchell and he would have parts there ready to replace...

as we spend more and more $$ at the monsters we will have less and less.............choice.......just look around

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It is an especially

Tue, 2011-07-19 11:00

It is an especially interesting topic for me! I guess some has been made clearer but when nico included 'Tackleworld in WA' as being a 'chain store', I nearly choked on my weeties. Big guys? Surely lurcha doesn't mean me. Bears some more explanation I guess.

Tackle World is a buying group of independantly-owned stores - basically a bunch of mates in the same game who got together many years ago to make ourselves more competitive against the growing spectre of chain stores. For us to now be tagged as a chain store from 'the outside' is I guess understandable, but disconcerting all the same. It sure doesn't feel like it from here - we're all small businesses doing the duck-paddling thing in reality.

There are four Bluewater Tackle World stores in Perth, which I grew over the past 20 years from an original one at Scarborough, the Scarborough store being originally my father's and his father's before him. All four stores are 100% owned between our family and the bank! I also started the one in Exmouth in the late '90s, and the manager from day one was Matt Gates, who until then had worked at the Scarborough store. I sold that business to Matt a few years ago and he continues to own and run it himself.

TackleWorld Geraldton was originally Alan Scupham's, and Scuppy sold it to the local Norris family a few years ago. TackleWorld Mandurah and Miami are owned by Russell McCarthy, and Russell was a customer at Scarborough 30 years ago before he moved down there. TackleWorld Broome is owned by Steve Chambers, who has been in Broome for decades.

In other words, every Tackle World store owner lives with half an hour of the store, was a fisherman first, and has done their 'apprenticeship' - the years of 80-hour weeks that it takes to get a small business out of the hole it invariably starts off in. Which I guess is why none of us would ever say calling us a chain store is fair or right; our perception of a chain store is when a faceless organisation comes along with a whole bunch of other peoples' money, does what it wants because it can afford it, and employs a whole bunch of people who probably don't fish anyway. That is very much NOT us. If they screw up, their shareholders get a smaller dividend and have no idea why. If we screw up, we lose our house and know exactly why.

BCF, Ray's Outdoors and Campbell's ProTackle are all owned by the Super Retail Group, a publicly listed company headquartered in Queensland. Anaconda is owned by Spotlight, the fabric people headquartered in Melbourne. KMart and BigW, you know. TackleWorld is nothing like any of those organisations. Every Tackle World store in Australia is independantly, locally, owned & run. My headquarters are out the back at Scarborough, right about where I spent the first year of my life.

People being as they are will all have their own ideas about who's right, who's cheap, who's trying hardest, who's best to buy from, and while I'd love to persuade you all my way, it will never happen. Such is life, so I only speak for myself when I say I will always support a WA-owned business in front of anybody else, because I know from 'the inside' what it means to the people who own and work in those businesses.

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Gday bluewater. To be honest

Tue, 2011-07-19 18:25

Gday bluewater. To be honest mate i never realised that u guys wernt a chain store, with so many stores australia wide with the same name i just presumed it was the same owners, dont know if its just me or not tho... Mite have to pop in for a bit of a look next time!

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great stores

Sat, 2011-07-23 13:05

allways had good service , will order in what you want and the guys are very helpful

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gday guys in my opinion the

Tue, 2011-07-19 13:37

gday guys in my opinion the smaller guys are the only way to go. yes i do get the occasional thing from the 'chain stores' but advice is not what i am chasing if i go there because in a place like BCf for egsample that area is vacant. the other thing which i know from my experience in the industry that is killing it very quikly and i know a number of owners would agree is the internet. things are cheap yes but they have no shop front no overheads and very limited staff and wheres your advice? i have seen it constantly being on the floor myself having numerous people come in for advice and milk all the info they want out of you then buy a pack of hooks and walk out then later find out they bought in on the net! from my opinion this is taking the piss out of the tackle store and for that time you have cost them money. yeah occasionally no worries but i see it weekly coming in for an hour or two.

im not trying to deter you from going to the smaller stores for advice just be aware of the amount you are going to spend with them and that time is precious in a smaller store like that i personally love giving advice and spending time with people but there is a point where it gets ridiculous.

the smaller stores are pivital for the industry since they actually fish!!!chain stores have there place but i see smaller stores playing a more pivital role.

my rant is over

cheers

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Bluewater, for the record, im

Tue, 2011-07-19 17:06

Bluewater, for the record i spend when i can at yours, mainly morely as its closer, and i do release bluwaters are an independtly own group of owner/ops.........

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Tackleworld

Tue, 2011-07-19 17:14

Bluewater

sorry i did not mean to insult you i didn't realize you guys were more like a franchise ownership you have stores Australia wide and have a large following.I presumed Tackle world to be a chainstore all trading under the same name.

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Just a couple of examples

Tue, 2011-07-19 18:12

Just a couple of examples guys.

I needed a cover for my boat, quick ring around, looking around $300. Walk into Rays, Boat cover down from $250 to $50. I was expecting crap but wrong, it's quality.

Needed some folding boat chairs for tinny, now these are $99 everywhere. Walk into Rays $29.95. Same chair, just a different name.

I just saved $390

Now it doesn't happen every day, but it does pay to shop around.

 It would be unfair of me to expect the local store to  match this price.

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Thanks 499, and Nic, no

Tue, 2011-07-19 19:01

Thanks 499, and Nic, no worries, not feeling insulted, just misunderstood! There's no franchise stuff involved either, just a few years back we all dropped the Tackle World name into our shop names so that we could advertise more uniformly on Ifish and Hooked (both Paul Worsteling and Dave Butfield own Tackle World stores, in Melbourne and Sydney). So it's our own fault that the perception is out there. Catch-22. And here I am saying I'll always shop WA-owned whenever I can, but then you guys have trouble figuring out who is WA-owned and who isn't. No easy answers.

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Hey Hal

Tue, 2011-07-19 19:09

have you got any idea if anyone is toying with the idea of opening any other Tackle Worlds in WA?

Getting one back in the SW would be nice

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There's nobody putting their

Tue, 2011-07-19 22:19

There's nobody putting their hand up as far as I know Matt. I agree it would be good to see, in a couple of places really, but it's not an easy thing to do - as evidenced by a couple of stores Bunbury/Busso way the last couple of years.

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quik little throw in there

Wed, 2011-07-20 08:18

quik little throw in there regarding rays just in case no one realised its owned by BCF/supercheap to......i dont know how many people heard because they were trying to keep it on the down low. anyway as far as i know getaway outdoors, bluewater and the smaller tackle stores are the only ones that come to mind when you say independantly owned.

cheers

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Wed, 2011-07-20 10:29

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Yep..

Wed, 2011-07-20 11:51

No chain store here...

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i must admit, from the

Wed, 2011-07-20 13:02

i must admit, from the outside bluewater seems like a "chain store", but the stores i have been in (morley and mindarie) have been more than helpful to give me more than sufficient advice. something you dont see often in the real "chain stores".

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Rant

Fri, 2011-07-22 21:56

All Stores regardless of ownership offer a place in the retail foodchain. What they have to work out is "What is my Market" and target them.

We (consumers) all shop in stores for different reasons but they can be summed up as

  • Price
  • Convenience
  • Range
  • Service

As a consumer I shop with the person who has offered me the best service, whilst maintaining a reasonable price relative to the market (Not always cheapest) and offering a good range. Convenience for me is not a big issue.

So what is "best service"

  1. Someone who actually sells me something that fits what I need.
  2. Someone who knows backwards and forwards all the products that they are selling.
  3. Stores that offer good follow up on warranty and issues.

Some examples of stores not following the "best service" principal (no names mentioned, this is feedback not bitching)

  1. A salesperson trying to convince me that a graphite rod is better because it is lighter. I had especially said weight was not an issue, graphite and me are not friends (I always break them!). Therefore you are trying to sell me something I don't want
  2. Not Knowing the basic comparisons between similar reels without reading the box
  3. TELLING CUSTOMERS THAT THEY WILL GET THEIR WARRANTY CLAIMS FASTER IF THEY SEND IT IN THEMSELVES. This just tells me, you are happy to sell me the product but if you have any issues, you are on your own. No probs, I will buy it over the internet then!

I hope tackle store owners read this and take it as feedback and not criticism. Personally I think keeping money local is important, so is shopping where I feel suits my needs. And why is nobody open at 6-00am when I am on my way to go fishing and need bait/ice/terminal?

Especially if you are a shop near a boat ramp in summer!

 

AAAAHHHH rant over

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More on 3 ... Being told you

Sat, 2011-07-23 03:47

More on 3 ...

Being told you have to pay for postage for them to send your warranty claims in.

I'm in business, I know how warranty works, if you made the sale, you have to carry the can when it comes to warranty.

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You would think that a

Sat, 2011-07-23 14:33

You would think that a certain store very close to a certain boat ramp would be open earlier/open sundays, if not in winter, then definitely in summer. I find it quite hard to believe, there must be a reason why they are not.

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is each BCF owned by individuals under a franchise?

Sat, 2011-07-23 07:40

If so BCF independent store owners are themselves "little guys" they would get the benefit of buying power but would probably spend alot for franchise payments?
I'm not sure if this is correct maybe they are actually owned by one corporation???? But maybe each store is owned by individual franchise owners?

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BCF/Ray's/Soup stores are all

Sat, 2011-07-23 10:36

BCF/Ray's/Soup stores are all owned by the Super Retail Group, along with SuperCheap Auto and some bicycle shops. There are no franchises, no owner/operators or independants in that company.

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I buy locally where I can and

Sat, 2011-07-23 12:54

I buy locally where I can and only ever go to the independants, Bluewater Scarbs is only just down the road :) But I find I'm forced to regularly buy interstate and overseas due to the fact that I buy a lot of specialised gear that isn't catered for over here.

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Also, very dissapointing to

Sat, 2011-07-23 15:22

Also, very dissapointing to see when I went into a local tackle store to buy some Varivas braid.. I was more than happy to pay a little extra for the convenience of being able to walk into a shop and buy it over the counter (I'm fairly used to waiting 1 wk + for gear to arrive internatioanally) but the price was $100 more than I get it for online... it was quite literaly double the price for a 300m spool... that's not acceptable in my oppinion..

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Jay, you could have made it

Sat, 2011-07-23 21:37

Jay, you could have made it clearer that last one wasn't us!

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Ahhh sorry Hal! Should have

Sat, 2011-07-23 23:02

Ahhh sorry Hal! Should have been more specific :)