Foam Bilges

 Arvo folks.

So, three weeks ago, I decided that it would be a good idea to pull my boat apart for a bit of much needed maintenance. 15/16 years ago, it was a hull that cost $250 and the old man and I built it up to a centre console. The hull is a Pacemaker at 19 foot.

As part of the build, we filled the bilge with the two part expandable foam and I guess I am just posting on the condition.

As expected, there is water in areas though not as bad as I expected. The foam has a small gap between itself and the frames where it seems to have shrunk or folded in its curing process and there is a little bit of water, like 50ml per 1/2 m3 of foam. Where it has sat for god knows, it is black and stinks but so far, the only rot is above the deck in the bow. Heaps of cockroaches! 11 rubbish bags so far and half way through.

Today is the 5th day working on it and I have just discovered that a shovel is a GREAT way to dig the foam out as I just did in 4 minutes with the shovel, what took me 2 hours with a claw hammer and chisel.

the only water is in sections where the deck was patched or covers glassed over hatches, where the additional glass work failed. The as built sections are rock solid.

Overall a bloody strong boat which is half way through the dig out.

 

 

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Keep it coming

Sat, 2018-06-23 17:30

 Love these stories. Afew pics would be a great addition .

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 Pic added. How was the

Sat, 2018-06-23 19:43

 Pic added. How was the remainder of your time in coral Bay? Sorry about the noise as we left...

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 is this one a complete

Sat, 2018-06-23 20:43

 is this one a complete rebuild . that foam stuff is good. got our hull done. peace of mind knowing whatever happens out there the boat will stay floating

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 Plan is to dig the deck off,

Sat, 2018-06-23 21:31

 Plan is to dig the deck off, foam out and repair/replace anything sus. Seems the renovation prior to us owning it involved siliconing a deck ontop of the deck taking a bit of weight out. 

Hoping to get it ready for a deck before end of July.

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 Looks good mate.As others

Sat, 2018-06-23 21:31

 Looks good mate.

As others said keep the pics coming, i would love to in the not to distance  future do a full rebuild on a similar size pacemaker,vogager or fraser.

 

 

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 Wow you've got a fair old

Sun, 2018-06-24 07:42

 Wow you've got a fair old job ahead of you there , good luck 

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Swompa

Sun, 2018-06-24 17:44

 We got  a couple of good hauls of reds by travelling a long long way. Pretty much a waste of time closer to home with the sharks. The weather was not that kind after you left.

As for the noise I don't think I even heard you. I would be happy to have neighours like you any time.

I do find the people with dieselitis interesting. These are the blokes that like to start their diesel vehicles up at 6 in the morning and then leave them idling for half an hour before they leave keeping half the caravan park awake listening to it. Never with a petrol motor. Whinge over  and I do own a diesel.

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Cheers, mate. Mine is diesel

Mon, 2018-06-25 09:02

Cheers, mate. Mine is diesel too though much the same as our kids, I don't like hearing it it so don't expect other people to.
Glad you got onto some fish. Unfortunately all we caught up there was lost when my freezer decided to stop working. The work on my boat is in the hope that I can have a robust toy to take on future trips. That little inflatable was OK though the hour before and after was a pain in the backside.

Managed to get all of the port side and down the middle cleaned out on the weekend. Fair bit of rotten deck right in the back of the boat. Still strong as hell and it took a lot of work to remove it.

Now to remember to drain water off the tarps before I loosen the straps....

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The insides are now gutted.

Mon, 2018-07-02 10:27

The insides are now gutted. The rot in the back of the floor was pretty yuck and it seems like the bilge can drain to the back of the boat but cannot go any further so just sits in the aft compartments. The wood (under the engine sump and back deck) was so bad, you could smoosh it with your fingers. Imagine toothpaste. The structure was double skin fiberglass over waterlogged wood.

Started cutting out some structure yesterday to make the deck space more ergonomic (there was a 120mm step in the middle of the boat) for little (and big) people so with a bit more cutting next week, it will be time to start putting humpty back together again.

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 looks like a big job

Mon, 2018-07-02 15:29

 looks like a big job planned. not much fun that rotted wood

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 Few more pics added. Dig

Sat, 2018-07-07 19:45

 Few more pics added. Dug into a point that I thought was purposefully hard to get to and glad I did. Wow - saturated with signs of prehistoric life forms. Lines up with a section that always dripped for days after I used the boat and now I see why. 

Completely stripped now and cutting out bits that don’t need to be there...and making sure the drains all flow down. 

Will cut out some segments tomorrow to allow for 100mm pipe for running cables to the console. 

Hopefully a few sunny days will dry it out so I can start thinking about laminating some reinforcements in. 

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 Might be worth a seperate

Sun, 2018-07-08 12:05

 Might be worth a seperate conduit for the transducer cables if it's easy to do... Just to rule out any electrical interferance issues...

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Admittedly, I don't run high

Mon, 2018-07-09 07:36

Admittedly, I don't run high tech gear (6m CC with external fuel tanks so my range is rotto and back) though it wouldn't be a bad idea to kind of future proof it. Cheers for the idea.

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Didn't get anything done this

Mon, 2018-07-16 10:22

Didn't get anything done this weekend rather than see how out of plumb the structure is under the deck. I am at the stage where I need to glue in some new ribs to provide backing for the deck though some are 20mm out.

Wife getting sick of it living under the patio...

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 she might be getting sick of

Mon, 2018-07-16 16:32

 she might be getting sick of it under the patio but when you bring a feed home all would be forgiven hopefully. 

if your running a couple of lengths of pipe through why not run an extra one just in case. 

while your at it having the floor to redo why not build in an insulated kill tank instead of taking up space with an esky. we have one in our boat and had a stainless insert made foe easy cleaning . 2 bags of ice lasts all day 

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