Spot available long term Port Kennedy
Have a spot available for another fisho. Currently only fishing with one regular. A few simple rules we follow:
we share fish no matter who catches it...
boat gets cleaned up inside and out at my house in Secret Harbour
we like to fish out wide and in close
we don't bring out 20 rods.....usually two each, 3 sometimes
we share bait, drinks and food and tackle if needed
normally meet up to tie rigs when conditions suck
no GPS.....boat spots stay on the boat
we mainly use bait and bottom bash but starting to use SPs and jigs (if you have expertise in that..highly regarded)
My deckie buys all fuel and usually brings food and drinks.....not my rule just something nice he does since I have to pay for boat, oil, insurance, gas in cruiser. I would expect you to split fuel costs with him
Deckie has access to my boat when I am stuck at work...so many opportunities to fish
If this hasn't scared you off yet, give me a ring at 0410019881.
Heading out deep on Monday 50+ metres.
Cheers, Ben
Lamby
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Good deckie rules I reckon
Good deckie rules I reckon
MattMiller
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Yeah good deal
especially 'decky has access to my boat while i'm at work'.
This deal shouldn't last long
max199
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size
boat?
southcity104
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some contract..
id be keen but just for the boat "when your at work"
Ps photo of boat please
"Its a life style job"
allrounder
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It is as easy as clicking on his name
as he is one of the few that have filled in his profile.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
snappermiles
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i want to no where you found a
deckie willing to pay for all of the fuel!???
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synthos
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pay for fuel
All the fuel may sound tuff but does the deckie pay for having a boat the insurance the matnenace the saftey gear the decent sounders ? its a +++ item when I read it I was thinking why do I pay for fuel at all ? I get deckies to pay share of fuel and bait food n drinks seems extreeme tho ;) but am thinking of upping the cost after reading this although I would never let somone else take my baby out ;)
snappermiles
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oh im with you there synthos
but i no my deckies wouldnt pay for all the fuel!! there all tight ass's haha
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sherbert
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Good deckie
and the skipper has a lot of trust in him
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max199
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BUT
Sherbs, ALL, the fuel. Imagine if Steve said for you to pay all the fuel........I DONT THINK SO. Each weekend $110.00. Skipper sounds like a bit of a tight ass to me. It's a privelledge and a safety issue and sharing a days fishing and having fun is whats its about. Dont make it about the money. If its a money thing, dont have a boat. That shits me IMO.
sherbert
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Iam not talking about fuel
But use of his boat, Could you not see steve doing that with us--- I would not clipping the boat on to the 4x4 let along take the boat out on my back
And paying for the fuel, What would happen if you went to the 300m And drove around all day after lol
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max199
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I know
and this skipper didn't mean the deckie could take it out without him. What you would do if you say went out to 300's and fished(wether you caught fish or not), is drive by a servo, fill the boat up, split the costs or whatever arrangement happens. So next time you go out in close or far, you split the costs again. Easy.
Whatever arrangement is between skip and deckie etc.
I just think coping a full fuel expense is a bit too much.
Also splitting all fish on board is a fair and commonly used method these days.
max199
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stand corrected
the skip says the deckie pays for the fuel and it's not his rule!
Rick
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Changed my mind
Was half way through writing what is fair IMHO,and changed my mind, but what ever arrangement a skipper and his deckie have is fine. Otherwise they wouldn't be fishing together.................
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soupster51
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Agree
Exactly right. Couldn't have put it better myself. Consistency is the best policy and if you know what the deal is there is never going to be any complaints.
The best reason for doing what's right today is tomorrow.
DazSamFishing
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Deckie to pay for all fuel?
Deckie to pay for all fuel? IMO, buying fuel is part of owning a boat. I'd feel like a mongrel palming off all the fuel bills to my mates (my opinion though).
I always go halves.
sherbert
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Yours sounds better
Do u have a fuel card as well lol , Must catch up for a beach fish soon
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DazSamFishing
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definitely keen on a beach
definitely keen on a beach sesh Sherbs. Was speaking to a few blokes about doing something this long weekend. You should join us.
solly
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if you dont own a boat its ok
My deal is simular except I split the fuel and they bring there own food and drinks unless family I pay for everything including the stress
solly
There are two types of people ,do'ers and watchers
Right now the do'ers are the doing it
And the watchers are watching us do it
dagree
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Agree with solly....
I pay for everything and the stress.... My missus and daughter are my usual deckies.
If someone outside the family comes out a deal is struck before the boat hits the water.
Cheers,
David (AKA Grumps)
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alfred
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Easy for some deckies to
Easy for some deckies to complain about paying for anything more then half the fuel cost for the outing.
To hell with the skipper - he can pay for the cost of the boat and related gear, like GPS, sounders etc and take the hit with the depreciation, pay the rego for BOTH the boat and trailer, pay the insurance for BOTH the boat and trailer, pay the maintenance for BOTH the boat and the trailer, pay the fuel cost for towing and the associated cost of the tow vehicle.
What? Bring food and drinks for the skipper? Are you kidding? Next thing you know, is that the deckies will be expected to pay for the parking ticket and clean the boat. Someone's got to do something about this crap.
Why should the deckie have to pay for the privilege of fishing off the skipper's boat? I can't see the logic in it at all.
The deckies should just get their own boats - I wonder why the deckies don't have their own boats?
Not about money?
DazSamFishing
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com'on Alfred. If you buy a
com'on Alfred. If you buy a boat, you've got to be prepared & understand all the costs associated with owning & running it.
I bought a boat because I enjoy fishing & it allows me to do the fishing I love doing. I've owned a few boats now & can appreciate every cost.
I don't mind fishing solo, however, I enjoy sharing the moments with good mates. If they're good mates, they'll offer reimbursment for fuel, parking ticket & bring food & drinks.
At the end of the day, I can't say: What about depreciation, regos, insurances, servicing etc. The onus is on the buyer - if you can't afford it, don't buy it. Or look into a syndicate.
Otherwise, fish by yourself.
schecky
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Well said PE10
Well said PE10
alfred
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Daz, you haven't been on the
Daz, you haven't been on the site long. Have you EVER seen me ask for a deckie?
They folks that do come out with me, if they are worth they weight in salt, they will offer to pay something and what ever they offer, I don't complain.
I fish with other boat owners as well and am very happy to contribute any amount they ask or trade days out.
For some it's not about the money, get or dont get, it doesn't matter, I just can't understand that some folks say it's not about the money, then feel that they should not contribute to anything else but half the fuel cost.
For them it's not about the money. Yeah right.
till
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LOL, I was just over at
LOL, I was just over at Alfred's (belatedly) paying for my share of the last tank, just as well I was playing (tank) fill bitch as well!
sherbert
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I pay befor i get in the boat
And more if we do a lot more running around finding spots
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DazSamFishing
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Alfred, the way I
Alfred, the way I interpretted your first post about deckies not contributing or complaining to contribute towards a trip, lead me to beleive you expect 'A LOT' more than say, half the fuel bill.
Who cares about whether you've EVER asked for a deckie - there's nothing wrong with fishing solo & savouring your boat ownership by yourself or with your family. I haven't asked for a deckie yet, because I have a good network of mates that share the same passion & they're genuinely good blokes that contribute their fair share. The chance of me asking for a deckie will be pretty rare - there's always a mate that has their hand up - no need to ask or advertise.
Again, to me, it sounded as though you expect more than halves in fuel if someone is out on your boat. So be it, each to their own (nothing wrong or right about it). We all have different opinions.
And com'on Alfred, yeah, I haven't been on site for a loooong time, but I contribute my fair share & enjoy being part of it.
alfred
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I don't expect anything Daz,
I don't expect anything Daz, just can't stand the attitude, half the fuel and too bad about the rest.
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MattMiller
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You've hit
the nail on the head there DazSam
sherbert
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Some people are
Like me, Cant or not worth out laying that sort of money for a short time /Retire cos of bad health
Not every on here has money to buy a boat Alfred
You go sole a lot, But not the right thing to do [AS we have seen lately]
I can see the governament stoping that one day
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alfred
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Agreed, not everyone wants to
Agreed, not everyone wants to or can buy a boat for what ever the reason.
I, my personal opinion - which does not have to be agreed upon by anybody else, is that if you are coming to me to ask for a deckie spot and say I am not willing to pa a cent more then half the fuel, I am likely to choose someone else, that might not be able to pay me anything but have a different attude.
I hope they never make fishing alone against the law.
max199
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So Alfred
whats your view on splitting catch?
alfred
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The fish is easy, it's not
The fish is easy, it's not about the fish, it's about the catching, catch is usually shared.
snappermiles
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im with you there alfred
i go fishing alone a fair bit as my mates work in perth and i work away!! i find fishing alone is so pleasant just doing what you want not having to worry how many fish your deckies are catching!
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STEVE231
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I personally would not ask
I personally would not ask my deckie to pay for all the fuel, we always go halves. Boat ownership is expensive, but that is the owners responsibility. My boat alone has cost me around the $6000 mark in the past 4 or so months, with servicing, repairs and a new GPS.
I always fish with the same person and he sometimes buys oil etc. out of the blue if he's passing Challenge Marine, never ask him to, but it's a nice gesture.
I don't necessarily disagree with Ben and if he's got a deckie that's happy with that arrangement, good on him. Don't know about letting him take the boat out by himself though?
alfred
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I don't have any issues with
I don't have any issues with any skippers decision about how much of a contribution they expect, if anyting at all. I just have issues with some deckies views on it.
sherbert
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Iam not saying i wont pay
The going rate, But i will not pay all the fuel
I pay what steve ask for or more
I think fishing buddys And great friendship is alot to do with it, And it not the boat and bein a good deckie ITs what we do for each other out side fishing
Pick up the phone and he or myself are there for each other at all hours of the day
If i cant pay my way i would give up boat fishing all togeather
By the way Alfred I would not ask you to take me out You have to offer And reading the about post i think i would decline
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max199
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you
tell em MATE! (SHERBS)
sherbert
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More fight in that trout
U gutless p****
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max199
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LOL
giddy up!
fisho-ron
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who cares...if i am going
who cares...
if i am going fishing the boat will be out there anyway, so as for fuel/bait who cares....
i normaly fish with mates and the cue is a mile long, but it is always the good jesture for mates to chip in for the running cost for the day.
i buy my bait in bulk and usally supply for the day, but again it cost money and its only fair if your using it.
if you want to fish and not pay/help, maybe stick to the beach!
us skippers do know the cost to run out deep for the day and its not cheap...
i would never get on anyones boat for a day wether cruising or fishing and not offer the skipper some cash, let alone help clean the boat as well.
skippers should never have to ask...any fisho knows how it works
all in all...us skippers know, when you have a good fishing freind(not a deckie)you fish together all the time and there is no issuses.
i just need to know how to get my son's to chip in......ha ha ha
as for taking the boat out by themselfs.....no chance in hell....unless he is a part owner.
you are a very trusting freind!!!
i think what you are offering is quite fair and if i didnt have my own boat i would jump at it in a flash.
good luck mate
Just1morecast
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I have had my boat for a good
I have had my boat for a good year and a bit now and have only really taken 2 deckies on my boat. I established the day before its halves on fuel and both times i provided bait(fresh squid i caught) and i pay for parking. They agreed with no problems. I take my brother out jigging every now and then and i try to give him a cheaper trip out than halves(just brotherly love i guess) and thats the same when we water ski, if dad and 2 bros come along its a cheaper trip to them.
i guess its the skippers rules and everyone is entitled to there own boat rules. Just seems fair to split evenly with deckies and i think im just a person that likes to think a person on my boat is a guest so i try and give them an experience thats fair aswell as fun because you never know when you need a deckie.
Lastly i hope fishing alone doesnt become a law, i like to sometimes to get away from it all. Whats next.....no more solo surfing sessions! BS!
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grayzeee
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i believe in fuel ice and
i believe in fuel ice and used to be bait was split down the middle , as was the catch.
boat owners have to suck up the other expenses. nature of boat ownership
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
max199
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absolutely
right on! If we can help with other stuff then yeah but it isnt just a deckie and skipper, more friends as Sherbs mentioned. The other expenses like ins etc goes part n parcel with owning a vessel, whatever the size.
sherbert
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By the way max
My 4x4 You pay the fuel to steeppoint lol And back
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max199
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As
I will be the deckie so to speak, I should've thought of that one!
Second thought, you can pay both ways and the rego,maintenance costs,etc etc!!
sherbert
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When any repairs
Need doing -LIKE wheels bearing and any other stuff, I will be there to help and bring the tools to do the job as well
I have pick up steve younger lad from his m8 house, When steve is doing other things
Like above post Its alot more // GOOD friendship too
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alfred
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Sounds like more then just
Sounds like more then just half the fuel to me then.
pale ale
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My fishin mate and I, we just
My fishin mate and I, we just take it in turns paying for the fuel. A big day marlin fishin will cost $200 (if we go chasing reds too)
We both have big boats, so we both have the expenses associated with boating.
Barra trips are pretty cheap. And we supply our own drinks cos we have different tastes/consumption levels!