when did you hear that ?, last night was strange down there, there were spots in the water that were very still but slowly moving along, plenty of dolphins around, would they hang about with a W P in the area ?
Tommy the undercurrents and tides are a bit dangerous in Warnbro sound this week,,the rockingham council(or whoever is responsible) has closed the penguin island sand bar to the public until at least friday because conditions are to dangerous,,,
Colin 3 > long standing and highly respect member of the prestigous Colin's club.
@ 5 mtrs that thing is as big as my boat 16FT, I reckon it would eat a fair bit, wonder how long before the law decides enough is enough, will it take another sole, I hope not.
According to tonights news, there was a GW sighting just a few hundred metres up the beach from Guesty's memorial service. And then they showed pics of the people up to their chests in the water.
Im not one for destroying these almighty creatures, but nonetheless Im like most of you guys, s|@t scared of them. Wouldn't it be nice to somehow be able to tag and track each menacing shark so that when its within a certain range of the shore, it sends an automatic signal to some sort of beach siren,as well as the authorities, warning us of sharks in the vicinity?
Seems like a good solution if at all possible. That way everyone wins!
Problem with whites, is they have been protected for what 10+ years now.
In this time their numbers would have grown, which obviuosly makes them more frequent to local waters.
Im in 2 minds of either distroying or protecting these big creatures.
After all we are at the top of the food chain.
I could not imagine what i would think if a family member of mine was taken by a shark as to how i would feel.
Its no real difference to crocs, and i heard they are looking at a culling program for the crocs up north because the numbers have grown dramatically.
Not that im saying they should be culled, but both sides of the country they are reporting large numbers of big sharks close to shore.
What happens if the number of shark victums goes from 1 to 20 or 30?
Without sounding like a green freak (which Im not) I think its our responsibility to ensure we look after each and every animal out there and make sure they are still around for our kids and so on in the future.(jmo) Yes, I agree with what most people are saying about the GW's becoming a problem in certain areas which just mean we need to come up with a decent solution to manage the problem rather than destroy it. Lets face it, we could all go out and hunt the shark down in revenge and yes, that particular shark wont attack anyone again BUT its not much of a solution as fortunately/unfortunately there are more than one dangerous sharks out there. If we were to kill them as they came in close and became a threat, where would it stop?
the sharks are always going 2 be there,why not tag them,especialy the ones that come into inshore waters,then the shark is free 2 do whatever,and the public is safe,but if the shark becomes a hazzard ,then we can consider what the authorities can do about the offending shark,any1 know how 2 start a pettition ?
hi people... new here but been reading in the background with interest.... following is just my opinion and my 2 cents worth so dont shoot me......
quote: "Ive also been told today that there are stacks of bait fish only a coupld of kms from shore from secret harbour / port kennedy area aswell."
this and the fact that in that area there is penguins and seals that live there is the reason these sharks are comin in dont you think...... they feed on these animals and are part of their menu in that restaraunt we call an ocean....... to stop these sharks from coming in each and every year you will have to get rid of the seals, penguins, baitfish and stop everyone from putting down cray pots while your at it cause that is only feeding the fish which also attracks the sharks..... i am not a greenie or a shark lover(although they are a great animal).... i like the idea of tagging and tracking... that way at least you know it is the same shark being a menace and maybe look at destroying it...... at this stage with all the sightings around who knows if it is the same one or not????
like i said just my opinion and 2 cents worth....... Ben
Satelite tags are about $5K per unit, me thinks if they did tag this big lottering shark the results would be scary!
As for the fish rulers, it was costing about $50k and that got axed from the budget, me thinks the constant rule changes and more to come is more of a reason than $$$
Hey....just my perspective, but Bodie mentions what if 20 or 30 shark victims....well there were 42 vanished on Australia's roads over the Christmas break alone!
Was talking to a geezer the other day who reckons if its your time to go then the big fella up above takes you by whatever means he deams appropriate at the time.So with my way of thinking don't shoot the messenger if you wan't to cull something go directly to the big boss,or bosses if your that way inclined.
Sid
but I will say all hell will break loose if there is another attack.... Perth will panic
Your right Andrew but dont you think there has been enough warnings out there for everyone with all the TV stations running both informative and/or Hyped up stories about Sharks in the metro atm.
Hard to blame any shark for an attack if you get in the water atm. People have been warned enough lately.
Heaps of things to consider, but I reckon the whites have probably been going into warnbro for 1000's yrs following pinkie/bait schools, More people in the water = more attacks.
More people on the road = more accidents.
and if they are almost extinct and there is a few sightings or attacks in a local area, you would logically assume that it must be the same shark if it matches the description.
Tag every white pointer and have your beaches hooked up to a proximty alarm thing. too easy ;
Im waiting for the tv show.... SHARK PATROL
I'd hate to be the poor sucker swimming who hasnt heard the reports...
Must be thousands of sharks around australia that would need tagging then? Im still needing to spend time to work out how put pics up but i did shark cage diving in south aus off neptune island a few weeks ago and we saw 5 great whites just that day and they say they regularely see 14 or 15 different great white sharks per day.
And documentaries ive seen they say they travel world wide especially back and forth from australia to south africa, perth is a good transit stop?
I dont think realistically you can expect just one shark to hang around, theres probably 40 or 50 hanging around perth constantly, there was just one that decided to bite someone and now people are aware of them again?
Alot of uncertaintly as usual with these creatures, maybe if we did manage to tag most sharks we would all get a real scare as to just how often the alarm bells did ring every time a shark got within a kilometre of our beaches, there must be heaps of them out there, we just dont see em!
Greg Jones i understand there is way more deaths on the roads from car accidents then from the rare shark attack.
But dont you think councils and governments shoudl have some responsibility for making the beaches safer for the public from these sharks?
What if it were a 10 year old kid who was taken by a shark?
I agree, if there is another shark attack, perth will be in Panic, and the beaches will close down as no one will want to go in the water.
Just listening to the people the news interviewed on the beach about going into the water was enough to realise people are already thinking twice about swimming. They also said this year has had more shark sightings than any year before this.
As a kid io spent most of my life at the beach, and i would like my kids to be able to experience the same thing as i did without having to worry about a 4 or 5 metre shark hanging around.
This could simply be because now there has been a shark attack they are actually looking for them now.
Im all for looking after the sharks, but im more for protecting the public from being unforuntate enough to be bitten by one.
I think QLD use shark nets yeh??
Could they not develop high gain shark shields and put them on bouys out off the beaches??
How many shark attacks have happened close to shore? (Normal distance at the beach playing in the waves) The last two have happeend out of normal swimmimng distance havn't they. The one at Cot was against a ski paddler one hundred meters from shore maybe, the second in port ken was also a fair way from shore. I dont think i have ever heard of a shark taking someone less then fifty meters from shore. Correct me if im wrong..
There have been sonar arrays placed up and down the coast to track gw and shark movements. We have one in Mangrove sanctuary and have a white that passes by each year around the same time.
yeah i think they follow the whales and their calves up the coast each year.
got a mate who works(d?) at c.a.l.m. in exmouth told me the story of a dead whale in the exxy gulf.
when they went out to tow it to shore to bury it, were greeted by a white "well over 5 metres". he had some pretty impressive pictures to back it up too. said it even gave their boat a couple of good nudges and bumps.
It will start affecting tourism soon. That will start costing jobs and some smaller buisinesses will probably fold when combined with the economic downturn.
You would be suprised how many people come to perth for holidays. Especially backpackers who live for the beach. And how many buisinesses make a living from them directly and indirectly.
a couple of dive shops sor where i get my tanks filled reckon not as many tanks getting filled since the attack.
admittingly, i haven't been diving as much since it happened, but went for one yesterday over at rotto, and with that running through the back of my mind, imagine my heart rate when i entered a large cave looking for crays, shone my torch into the far corner, and found......
A DEAD WHALE STUFFED INTO THE CORNER!
i may or may not have shit in my new wetsuit.
after i went back into the boat, gave myself a few minutes to gather my thoughts, went back down into the cave, and pulled 3 jumbos off it!
I went out on the "swimming with dolphins" yesterday out of Rockingham and the charter was chocka (42 people). I talked to one of the crew and she said that the trip remained very heavily booked out for weeks in advance, however she has had a few people a little reluctant to get in the water over the past couple of weeks. All the crew wear Shark Shields during the swim.
BTW the trip was a really good experience and one that I will remember for a long time. Not cheap but worth every penny.
I get where you are coming from Tim. The crew had the Shark Shields on and they towed around the customers on their little underwater scooters. We would have been like a bunch of grapes to a sizeable GW.
Interstingly the crew told me that the dolphins would not have a bar of playing around if there were any sharks at all in the vicinity. She told me this after the trip so it wasn't just a ploy to make sure I got in
Aparently a few sharks have been sighted over the years, but the dive boat just takes off to another area. I must say the crew knew what they were up to and I didn't feel any danger whatsoever. Dived in areas up to say 15m in depth.
There was an interview on the news a couple of days back with a professional shark fisherman of 25 or so years who lost his licence to net in metro waterswhen they closed it off.He stated and I,as an ex sharkfisherman believe rightly so,the problem is related back to the closure.
No big sharks being taken all of a sudden leaves a lot of small sharks and plenty of big sharks that move into the area to take advantage of plenty of food and no competition.
Top of the shark chain is the white pointer and its not going to be in a hurry to leave while there is plenty of food on offer.Now is the time of the year the whitebait make their annual run attracting herring tailor etc plus the bigger fish with them providing all the feed they need.
Question---how and who is going to put a tag into the shark?It isn't as easy as putting one into a hooked marlin/sailfish,first you have to catch it?get close enough to harpoon the tag in?have 50+tags in different boats because no one know where its going to appear next?then what,sit back and hope it comes to the surface for the tag to relay to the satelite where its been?The tags do not send signals all the time,only when the come to the surface for enough time for the tag to unload data via satelite.
All that said, I believe sharks are here for a reason (we didn't put them here) they just are. We can kill every white pointer and make it extinct like many other creatures man has successfully destroyed but will that really solve the problem? Then it will be Tigers, Bronze etc etc and so on. I understand the desire to remove the problem, but can we.....really?
I'm taking the family and a few friends to the beach tomorrow. Will I be swimming? Probably not as keen as usual.
Lets just try come up with something a little more creative here- We sent man to the moon!
Ready to get shot down here, but hey have a serious think about the problem first. Not only one shark out there.
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when did you hear that ?,
when did you hear that ?, last night was strange down there, there were spots in the water that were very still but slowly moving along, plenty of dolphins around, would they hang about with a W P in the area ?
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Shorty
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Tommy the undercurrents and
Tommy the undercurrents and tides are a bit dangerous in Warnbro sound this week,,the rockingham council(or whoever is responsible) has closed the penguin island sand bar to the public until at least friday because conditions are to dangerous,,,
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Just seen the channel 7
Just seen the channel 7 helicopter heads towards the Port Kennedy beach, we are not that far from it either.
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Bodie
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it could be a continuing
it could be a continuing problem now
This shark if its the same one, knows there is a food source there now.
I wonder how much food a shark of that size needs to eat a day.
tommytomato
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@ 5 mtrs that thing is as
@ 5 mtrs that thing is as big as my boat 16FT, I reckon it would eat a fair bit, wonder how long before the law decides enough is enough, will it take another sole, I hope not.
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wrassinator
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Maybe I better take the
Maybe I better take the heavy rod, winch cable, and tuna heads tonight?
scotto
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i reckon you'd be the town
i reckon you'd be the town hero if you did wrassinator!
wrassinator
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More like DoF would add me
More like DoF would add me to their prosecution list, like those Broome boyz...
Shorty
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Could be another one
Could be another one ?
Might be a few 4-5 metre GW's in the area ?
I reckon some one should stick a big tag in them thats visible from above,to see if the same one/ones is hanging about.
I think someone has mentioned it before but it will be a media circus if someone else is attacked.
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chrisp
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Big Game
Yeah Boys..I ve been thinking of putting out a balloon off Scabs dog beach all week.
Probably would'nt be too popular berlying up for sharks though..he he
If a dog or his owner got eaten i could help but feel partailly responsible.
ody
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Hi Ya,According to
Hi Ya,
According to tonights news, there was a GW sighting just a few hundred metres up the beach from Guesty's memorial service. And then they showed pics of the people up to their chests in the water.
Cheers.
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Kev
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Im not one for destroying
Im not one for destroying these almighty creatures, but nonetheless Im like most of you guys, s|@t scared of them. Wouldn't it be nice to somehow be able to tag and track each menacing shark so that when its within a certain range of the shore, it sends an automatic signal to some sort of beach siren,as well as the authorities, warning us of sharks in the vicinity?
Seems like a good solution if at all possible. That way everyone wins!
Tight lines
Bodie
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Problem with whites, is they
Problem with whites, is they have been protected for what 10+ years now.
In this time their numbers would have grown, which obviuosly makes them more frequent to local waters.
Im in 2 minds of either distroying or protecting these big creatures.
After all we are at the top of the food chain.
I could not imagine what i would think if a family member of mine was taken by a shark as to how i would feel.
Its no real difference to crocs, and i heard they are looking at a culling program for the crocs up north because the numbers have grown dramatically.
Not that im saying they should be culled, but both sides of the country they are reporting large numbers of big sharks close to shore.
What happens if the number of shark victums goes from 1 to 20 or 30?
Kev
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Without sounding like a
Without sounding like a green freak (which Im not) I think its our responsibility to ensure we look after each and every animal out there and make sure they are still around for our kids and so on in the future.(jmo) Yes, I agree with what most people are saying about the GW's becoming a problem in certain areas which just mean we need to come up with a decent solution to manage the problem rather than destroy it. Lets face it, we could all go out and hunt the shark down in revenge and yes, that particular shark wont attack anyone again BUT its not much of a solution as fortunately/unfortunately there are more than one dangerous sharks out there. If we were to kill them as they came in close and became a threat, where would it stop?
joe amato
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ask the fisheries 2 tag the sharks.......
the sharks are always going 2 be there,why not tag them,especialy the ones that come into inshore waters,then the shark is free 2 do whatever,and the public is safe,but if the shark becomes a hazzard ,then we can consider what the authorities can do about the offending shark,any1 know how 2 start a pettition ?
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matter of time!
I really do feel that its just a matter of time before another attack happens. That area being the hot spot for sure and its an ideal ambush area!
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Bodie
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agreed.... Ive also been
agreed....
Ive also been told today that there are stacks of bait fish only a coupld of kms from shore from secret harbour / port kennedy area aswell.
uncleben
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hi
hi people... new here but been reading in the background with interest.... following is just my opinion and my 2 cents worth so dont shoot me......
quote: "Ive also been told today that there are stacks of bait fish only a coupld of kms from shore from secret harbour / port kennedy area aswell."
this and the fact that in that area there is penguins and seals that live there is the reason these sharks are comin in dont you think...... they feed on these animals and are part of their menu in that restaraunt we call an ocean....... to stop these sharks from coming in each and every year you will have to get rid of the seals, penguins, baitfish and stop everyone from putting down cray pots while your at it cause that is only feeding the fish which also attracks the sharks..... i am not a greenie or a shark lover(although they are a great animal).... i like the idea of tagging and tracking... that way at least you know it is the same shark being a menace and maybe look at destroying it...... at this stage with all the sightings around who knows if it is the same one or not????
like i said just my opinion and 2 cents worth....... Ben
scotto
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this why
the reason they dont tag the thing(s), is because tagging costs (get ready for it....) MONEY!
rumour has it that fisheries arent even printing the fish ruler sticker, because it "not in their budget".
what chance have you got trying to put a $10,000 - $50,000 tag on anything when that kind of cheap budget boolshyt is going on?
however, 12 gauge shells are on special this week in midland......
uncleben
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12 gauge is always the
12 gauge is always the answer isnt it scotto??? you seem to be very agressive yourself.... maybe that special in midland will come in handy after all
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thinks!
Satelite tags are about $5K per unit, me thinks if they did tag this big lottering shark the results would be scary!
As for the fish rulers, it was costing about $50k and that got axed from the budget, me thinks the constant rule changes and more to come is more of a reason than $$$
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Greg Jones
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Hey....just my perspective,
Hey....just my perspective, but Bodie mentions what if 20 or 30 shark victims....well there were 42 vanished on Australia's roads over the Christmas break alone!
sid
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Was talking to a geezer the
Was talking to a geezer the other day who reckons if its your time to go then the big fella up above takes you by whatever means he deams appropriate at the time.So with my way of thinking don't shoot the messenger if you wan't to cull something go directly to the big boss,or bosses if your that way inclined.
Sid
Salmo
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Fish ruler is back n the budget
Expect to see a new one soon......
Fisheries budget is expected to be cut though....3-7% roughly...
on the shark issue.....like Sid said if your number is up its up.....flake taste terrible
but I will say all hell will break loose if there is another attack.... Perth will panic
Tim
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Quote:but I will say all
Your right Andrew but dont you think there has been enough warnings out there for everyone with all the TV stations running both informative and/or Hyped up stories about Sharks in the metro atm.
Hard to blame any shark for an attack if you get in the water atm. People have been warned enough lately.
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Jim
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Heaps of things to consider,
Heaps of things to consider, but I reckon the whites have probably been going into warnbro for 1000's yrs following pinkie/bait schools, More people in the water = more attacks.
More people on the road = more accidents.
and if they are almost extinct and there is a few sightings or attacks in a local area, you would logically assume that it must be the same shark if it matches the description.
Tag every white pointer and have your beaches hooked up to a proximty alarm thing. too easy ;
Im waiting for the tv show.... SHARK PATROL
I'd hate to be the poor sucker swimming who hasnt heard the reports...
Bend over
kane
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Thousands of sharks
Must be thousands of sharks around australia that would need tagging then? Im still needing to spend time to work out how put pics up but i did shark cage diving in south aus off neptune island a few weeks ago and we saw 5 great whites just that day and they say they regularely see 14 or 15 different great white sharks per day.
And documentaries ive seen they say they travel world wide especially back and forth from australia to south africa, perth is a good transit stop?
I dont think realistically you can expect just one shark to hang around, theres probably 40 or 50 hanging around perth constantly, there was just one that decided to bite someone and now people are aware of them again?
Alot of uncertaintly as usual with these creatures, maybe if we did manage to tag most sharks we would all get a real scare as to just how often the alarm bells did ring every time a shark got within a kilometre of our beaches, there must be heaps of them out there, we just dont see em!
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Bodie
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Greg Jones i understand
Greg Jones i understand there is way more deaths on the roads from car accidents then from the rare shark attack.
But dont you think councils and governments shoudl have some responsibility for making the beaches safer for the public from these sharks?
What if it were a 10 year old kid who was taken by a shark?
I agree, if there is another shark attack, perth will be in Panic, and the beaches will close down as no one will want to go in the water.
Just listening to the people the news interviewed on the beach about going into the water was enough to realise people are already thinking twice about swimming. They also said this year has had more shark sightings than any year before this.
As a kid io spent most of my life at the beach, and i would like my kids to be able to experience the same thing as i did without having to worry about a 4 or 5 metre shark hanging around.
This could simply be because now there has been a shark attack they are actually looking for them now.
Im all for looking after the sharks, but im more for protecting the public from being unforuntate enough to be bitten by one.
I think QLD use shark nets yeh??
Could they not develop high gain shark shields and put them on bouys out off the beaches??
Three Lions
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How many shark attacks have
How many shark attacks have happened close to shore? (Normal distance at the beach playing in the waves) The last two have happeend out of normal swimmimng distance havn't they. The one at Cot was against a ski paddler one hundred meters from shore maybe, the second in port ken was also a fair way from shore. I dont think i have ever heard of a shark taking someone less then fifty meters from shore. Correct me if im wrong..
herk
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Was the last one in PK only
Was the last one in PK only 30m off the beach?
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yep only at port kennedy was
yep only at port kennedy was only 30m from shore.
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tagging
There have been sonar arrays placed up and down the coast to track gw and shark movements. We have one in Mangrove sanctuary and have a white that passes by each year around the same time.
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scotto
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yeah i think they follow the
yeah i think they follow the whales and their calves up the coast each year.
got a mate who works(d?) at c.a.l.m. in exmouth told me the story of a dead whale in the exxy gulf.
when they went out to tow it to shore to bury it, were greeted by a white "well over 5 metres". he had some pretty impressive pictures to back it up too. said it even gave their boat a couple of good nudges and bumps.
Three Lions
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My Mistake
How deep is it roughly where the last attack happened?
Bodie
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not too sure on that one. I
not too sure on that one.
I would say within a couple metres of water
Apparently he was snorkling for crabs, so cant have been too deep at all.
Mick.C
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It will start affecting
It will start affecting tourism soon. That will start costing jobs and some smaller buisinesses will probably fold when combined with the economic downturn.
You would be suprised how many people come to perth for holidays. Especially backpackers who live for the beach. And how many buisinesses make a living from them directly and indirectly.
scotto
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a couple of dive shops sor
a couple of dive shops sor where i get my tanks filled reckon not as many tanks getting filled since the attack.
admittingly, i haven't been diving as much since it happened, but went for one yesterday over at rotto, and with that running through the back of my mind, imagine my heart rate when i entered a large cave looking for crays, shone my torch into the far corner, and found......
A DEAD WHALE STUFFED INTO THE CORNER!
i may or may not have shit in my new wetsuit.
after i went back into the boat, gave myself a few minutes to gather my thoughts, went back down into the cave, and pulled 3 jumbos off it!
not sure how they'll taste though.....
Mick.C
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Accident
LOL. There no shame in letting a little poo go at those times.
Stevef
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I went out on the "swimming
I went out on the "swimming with dolphins" yesterday out of Rockingham and the charter was chocka (42 people). I talked to one of the crew and she said that the trip remained very heavily booked out for weeks in advance, however she has had a few people a little reluctant to get in the water over the past couple of weeks. All the crew wear Shark Shields during the swim.
BTW the trip was a really good experience and one that I will remember for a long time. Not cheap but worth every penny.
Cheers Steve
Mick.C
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Yeh I've been told it is
Yeh I've been told it is good.
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Nice
Nice. Public liability insurance must be cheaper than their Workcover insurance.
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Stevef
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I get where you are coming
I get where you are coming from Tim. The crew had the Shark Shields on and they towed around the customers on their little underwater scooters. We would have been like a bunch of grapes to a sizeable GW.
Interstingly the crew told me that the dolphins would not have a bar of playing around if there were any sharks at all in the vicinity. She told me this after the trip so it wasn't just a ploy to make sure I got in
Aparently a few sharks have been sighted over the years, but the dive boat just takes off to another area. I must say the crew knew what they were up to and I didn't feel any danger whatsoever. Dived in areas up to say 15m in depth.
Steve
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Blame the gov
There was an interview on the news a couple of days back with a professional shark fisherman of 25 or so years who lost his licence to net in metro waterswhen they closed it off.He stated and I,as an ex sharkfisherman believe rightly so,the problem is related back to the closure.
No big sharks being taken all of a sudden leaves a lot of small sharks and plenty of big sharks that move into the area to take advantage of plenty of food and no competition.
Top of the shark chain is the white pointer and its not going to be in a hurry to leave while there is plenty of food on offer.Now is the time of the year the whitebait make their annual run attracting herring tailor etc plus the bigger fish with them providing all the feed they need.
Question---how and who is going to put a tag into the shark?It isn't as easy as putting one into a hooked marlin/sailfish,first you have to catch it?get close enough to harpoon the tag in?have 50+tags in different boats because no one know where its going to appear next?then what,sit back and hope it comes to the surface for the tag to relay to the satelite where its been?The tags do not send signals all the time,only when the come to the surface for enough time for the tag to unload data via satelite.
Kev
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All that said, I believe
All that said, I believe sharks are here for a reason (we didn't put them here) they just are. We can kill every white pointer and make it extinct like many other creatures man has successfully destroyed but will that really solve the problem? Then it will be Tigers, Bronze etc etc and so on. I understand the desire to remove the problem, but can we.....really?
I'm taking the family and a few friends to the beach tomorrow. Will I be swimming? Probably not as keen as usual.
Lets just try come up with something a little more creative here- We sent man to the moon!
Ready to get shot down here, but hey have a serious think about the problem first. Not only one shark out there.