you going to pick me up luke?

cheers dennis

yep...ring you tommorow dennis :)
luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

ok thanks, i will call you if i dont hear from you first.

cheers dennis

julie and me(I) are going to have a meal there,they have great food on there.

cheers dennis

I have my bro-inlaw, Dazza, laptop that has that map program on it. The same one I gave you Dennis, so we can study the options should the winds be against us. Its full of all his fish pics from Onslow just to whet your appetite.
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 To night
 steve
Born to fish forced to work

cheers sherb

luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

But going over east and maybe nz as well 3 weeks after your trip
steve
Born to fish forced to work

well, we , dennis, julie, tim, noha, scottnofish, jody and myself....had a few drinks over dinner, and have almost sorted things out...will keep you guys posted on the final details once fully sorted out.... should be a wicked trip...with a bunch of mad fisho's!!! lol... so if you are keen...let us know ( deckies will most probably get a spot, so express your interest if you dont have a boat!! ).... will have definate dates sorted out by the weekend... so will let you know then.

thanks for coming down guys/gals, was good to meet you all!!

luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

Some more info for you. The neap tides are 11/13th july full moon on the 18th. The neaps will be better for diving and I'm told the full moon is better for the offshore fishing. Can one of you northern locals confirm that? Creek crabbing is better on the bigger tides.
The Sun Chalets are a bit better appointed the the caravan park chalets but will cost more. They have the same twin bed and two singles but have seperate rooms and there own shower and toilet. $150/night for 3 people. Plenty of room for cars and boats. Located on the beach and has its own pool, just for your missus Tim

The caravan park chalets are only $75 for 3 people/night but have the twin and one end of the room and the bunks at the other. Ablutions are the common caravan parks one.

There is only a short stroll between the two so where you stay can be up to your own budjet and requirements. We will still be all together at the end of the day for a beer and barbie.

As discuused the is plenty of options here for any size boat and even if the wind is up there is still sheltered fishing to be found. If its really really bad you still can drive out to the national parks and play tourist.

Should be a good trip
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My experience with pelagics is that the full moon period itself is shite. The first quarter leading up to the full is my preferred time whenever i've planned trips north. However I haven't really noticed the full moon having much effect on the bottomies as I rarely bottom bash in the deep water. I imagine it might be a bit harder to hold the bottom on the bigger tides out wide.

John

I head a little FURTHER NORTH each year,
Leave the cities behind, out of sight of mind,
.......

School Hol's are from the 5th of July until the 20th. If your not fussed by that I'll be doing plenty of fishing at that time so I'd be keen on catching up and fishing with everyone.

John

I head a little FURTHER NORTH each year,
Leave the cities behind, out of sight of mind,
.......

Fish move with the tides as well. You really need to try a lot of depth variations to find them sometimes, especially bottom bouncing. A lot of the time because the current is pumping in 20-30m people decide its not worth heading wider. You get out into the 70s and the water is hardly moving and kick yourself later for wasting valuable time when they're on the bite.

Confirm - Diving is better on the neaps and its better to dive on the second day of fine weather. Gives the sediment/particles time to settle to increase the visibility. Better to dive an hour before or after the turn of the tides from my experience where there is only 1/12 shift of the tide, which is the most minimal movement.

The lead up to the full moon provided good bottom fishing for us and some good surface days, except for our lack of billfish. :( Having said that, some big billies were landed by others. The sailfish competition up here in Exmouth was around the first quarter to half moon and was terrible for surface fishing. I think there was only 15-20 sailfish landed over the two days and a lot of boats not even turning a reel. (that is pretty dismal considering 3 boats landed that in one day a few weeks back)

I think the key to it all is. Get the boat in the water and go! :)

Cheers,
Adam

they dont have web sites,so cant check out what there like
NOT school holidays,dont want to put up with all the bratts and extra traffic.

cheers dennis

the sun chalets seem to be the go for my money... but as said, there will be more budget accom available if people choose so....as for dates.wont be holidays, so wont be busy... however might be heading up as others return.....the above mentioned moon phases for july are right smack bang in the middle of school holidays... doh!!!   no worries max...keep your eye on this thread....

adam has summed it up perfectly....

the key is .....o get your boat in the water...and go!!!  so true...

luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

what about june instead so we can catch the good moon phase before the school holidays
Sex is Great, But Fishing Lasts All Day!

Is in the heart of town....never stayed there but they looked clean and well looked after?????

re tides......agree with Billy....the 3-4 days leading up to a full moon is great.....just not that good for muddies who seem to prefer the darkness to move around more......thats not to say you cant get out of the boat and leg it up a mud gully at low tide to dig em out!!!

I like new moons personally

Checked the holiday roster at work and I need to be back at work 25/7. So with school hols being just before that are we now drifting back into late June/ beginning July.
You guys were originally looking at August so is too far forward for your plans. Some people might be wanting tax returns to fund this trip. Or have end of tax years paperwork to do and cant get this time.

If all those wanting to go can post a prefered time say end of June though to end of August a time can be booked that suits the majority it dosnt have to just suit me.
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anytime for me,just want to pick the best weather possible.
why not may?im going to cancel coral bay in may to go (maybe)
1 thing i noticed is its more$$ for 2 people to stay in onslow than a house that sleeps 10
in coral bay.

cheers dennis

myself, i just want to do a big fishing trip!!! dont really mind where/when( so long as the odds are in our favour weather wise)....so maybe look at the option of coral bay when you are booked dennis...( if thats cool of cousre...) otherwise, as noha posted...give us hints at what suits the majority people!!! i have had a good look at the bom site posted on the other thread by noha...noticed that june had a much higher chance of rain vs july.....so food for thought...hmmmmm what to do!!!! 
luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

i wont cancel the house in coral bay yet.

cheers dennis

June sounds good, & July. Coral Bay in May as well.
I know.......... can we go next week

I do whatever the little voices tell me to do

buy the weather averages i found may/june for temp/wind/rain  are the best.

cheers dennis

buggered if i know how to sort it out??? seems ike a impossible mission atm

luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

Always hard trying to please lots of people Luke.

IMO go with the consensus formed at the get together. Its still six + months in advance so other interested people have time to get themselves organised. Book your own personal accomodation and if that means only two boats, so be it. At least your locked in then. If others are keen enough they'll find a way, at least that's what i've found in the past.

Go north mate, you won't regret it. In fact if your trips are anything like mine have been (even in a tinny) you'll find it hard to get motivated to go out local for a while after you return.

John

I head a little FURTHER NORTH each year,
Leave the cities behind, out of sight of mind,
.......

Luke, you are so close ATM. Just need to set the parameters to make it easier.
And we decided that the ones who went to the meeting would set them, with the others coming along if the final dates were good for them, as too hard any other way.

Therefore..............

Location - given costs / flexibility of fishing grounds with weather etc Onslow won easily.

The Accom is sussed - caravan park or 2 different chalets. Sound like we are all keen with the  pool & seperate room for a few extra bucks = Pool chalets. And if there isnt enough for everyone should we hopefully get heaps of takers, plenty left at the others, which is, like, over the road.

Dates - Hmmm, more parameters needed.

August - We will all go mad with it being that far away but possible
July school hols out = leaves a 10 days at the end of July which Noha can't make
June - possible (plus 4 days into July)
May - possible

Going to be easier if peoples can say when they can get time off as it seems quite a few work for themselves.

Luke
Dennis & Julie
Jody - Flexible - can go anytime.
Noha
Tim
Scottynofish

alfred
deefa
ox
neander
simon c
spess
mike 79
andy mac
brian
max199

I do whatever the little voices tell me to do

Let me know the dates you folks decide.  If it is School Hols, then it will be 4 of us, if not it will just be 2.

of kids in onslow for school holidays  maybe it will maybe it wont but so far its looking like the best time to go is in the middle of july\school hloidays  . i should know by monday if i will be taking my boat
Sex is Great, But Fishing Lasts All Day!

Dunno Scott. Maybe. Thought it was more of a traffic on the road issue???

I do whatever the little voices tell me to do

For me I have holiday slots available from 22nd may till 24 of july.

June new moon 4th
June full moon 19th
July new moon 3rd
July full moon 18th

Tides arround that period are consistant with the neaps being high dawn and dusk and the spring high arround noon.
Here a tide chart to play with, you can change the dates at the very bottom of the page.

http://www.mobilegeographics.com:81/locations/4441.html?y=2008&m=6&d=23

Here's a list of accomadation. The sun chalets are the one we are looking at. Unless you want to stay above the pub. They have "FLOOR TOILETS"  ......       

http://www.scubaroodive.com/view/20050427194949/20050418235430/
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Being a teacher myself, all of my July Exmouth trips have been restricted to the school holidays. Its supposedly busy but fishing from 6.00am to 6.00pm every day I never really noticed it.

The traffic on the Saturday morning is usually a bit heavy between here and Geraldton but after that its not a real drama. I usually avoid this by travelling up at night,but some people aren't comfortable doing this and that's fair enough. Alternatively a 4.00 am start can beat a lot of this traffic.

John

I head a little FURTHER NORTH each year,
Leave the cities behind, out of sight of mind,
.......

 I will look at puting my name down if there is room
steve
Born to fish forced to work

getting closer to sorting something now... hey sherb, put ya name down, with suitable dates mate...

luke
ps...the rest of you, let us know...makes it easier for us to get a definate date sorted...

fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

i can go when ever i fell like it,so make it suit the ones that have a time slot to worry
about.

cheers dennis

slowly getting there... welcome aboard andy...so what is the general concensus on moon phase?? and is this going to make that much of a difference for plegic fishing given the time of year?? ( excuse my ingnorance on the subject, but i know down here water temp is the go... does it change heaps u there during seasons...)

luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

You should try late March/early April - still pretty bloody warm but the fishings great and the weather generally is too. You guys should just come to Exmouth and book 2 houses and then work together to find the fish. Then if you really get stuck you can come and buy me off with beer. ;))) (even though I know Mr Mac has some spots which I need to steal!)

Whats the plan, Onslow or exmouth? 

I'm just making it difficult for you, so many options, what to do, what to do........... :)

onslow dean...adam is just stirring...r u keen to come up with us all dean?? still the same fishing frounds..just based on the mainland to give us more options is all.....

luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

How much difference in travel time between Onslow and Exmouth?

Might be useful to have Adam on the ground to help out.

Who is bringing their own boat?

onslow about 3 hours north of exxie.

My Brother in law goes north 3 times a year, for years he went to Point Samson and Onslow. A couple of years back he started going to Exmouth and has never gone back to Onslow or Point Samson as he reckons the fishing out of Exmouth is heaps better. I have since found a few others who say the same thing.
Im sure that people out there will disagree but I thought I would share it with you all.

I havn't fish either places so I can't comment personally but it does get you wondering.

Its Sambo Time !!

have heard similar things myself regarding onslow v exmouth....myself, i dont really mind...just want to organise a group of us to go up, and have a good time fishing. and i do agree, if we went to exmouth, having some "local ( are you considered a local now adam ;)  )knowledge" would be a benifit....at this stage ,  i will let the general concensus decide...but i will say, at this stage we need to decide where, when and who...and needs to be done soon...or we may not get a booking in time...especially if we go earlier..like april/may....

luke
  fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

Certainly no local, thats 10-15 year sorta stuff. LOL. I know where to find some fish though. :)

hehehe...thought that maybe the case.....10-15 yrs hey..not to bad...normally takes 2-3 generations...lol....if we go to exxy, will be good to have a little push in the right direction... :)

luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

Well we are already doing mackie islands in August, if you guys decide exy and earlier on (april/may) we might be along for the ride... 

        Been away for two weeks overseas and we appear no closer Luke, May for me as holidays already booked but can change if I know before someone else takes those weeks.

         Done an alnighter the other day, "not one bite" starting to think its the new boat!!!!!!!

I would pick Exmouth over Onslow. IMO Onslow as a town doesnt have much going for it. Exmouth is a much better town.

I can certainly point you in the right direction, WEST. :) But yes, I can help out a bit if you get stuck.

go to exxy, im there all of april...lol  

cheers
sam

Adam  When is a good time to headup?  If the group can't decide, I might plan a trip on my own.

Hey Alfred

I might be planning to go to Exy aswell. Looks like I wont be able to find a crew for my MI trip.

Simon

March through to June is the best time. The earlier the better really as we had some pretty serious north easterlies this year that shut down the fishing on both sides of the cape around June. Gamex this year had 4 superb weather days and lots of good weather on its lead up, so I'd definately try to come in March or April.

The first two weeks of April I will be fishing religiously as my fisheries contract ends and Gully and the boys are coming up. If you can make it up around then, it will be fishing non stop until you drop.

looks like there is going to be a bit of a crew up there around april time...

can't wait  

cheers
sam

if it changes to exmouth ill stick to my booking for coral bay in may,,the onslow trip was to do something different ive fish exmouth heaps.

cheers dennis

When are you guys gonna decide what your doing?>

getting toooo hard!!!! i think stick to the original plan myself...how about july the 14th to july the 20th inclusive?? that gives seven nights...includes the the lead up and full moon... and suits most people....lest decide people..

luke

ps... enough side tracking with other places... onslow it is people....

fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

ill go for 10/14 days,but any time is ok.

cheers dennis

so thats 3 in...who else???

luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

I'm in. In the middle of school hols though, so will have to lock the kids in the cupboard.

I do whatever the little voices tell me to do

doh!!! forgot that... maybe we should cross our fingers and hope that most people go to exy for the hols, and that onlsow is for the more hard core fisho's?? or else change dates....arrrrrrggggg.... why!!! so hard!!!...lol

luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

7 days is pretty short, you should really look at 10 days minimum.

i agree 7 days is to short .as it takes a day or2 to get settled and get ya bearings.
its easy to sit here and say that .as im not the one orgainizing the trip which is a feat in itself.well done luke and crew.
LIFES TO SHORT bite the bullet guys and make it a ten out of ten trip .you wont regret it

always in it just the depth that varies

sat 14th tosay the 25/26 of june gives us acouple of days travelling and getting settled then heaps of time for fishin and relaxing

Sex is Great, But Fishing Lasts All Day!

Quick question, where abouts can you stay in canarvon for an overnight stop off and lock up your boat so it is secure?

Its safer to sleep on the side of the road IMO

Its Sambo Time !!

Is the way to go
steve
Born to fish forced to work

When other sefaris are organised they rent a certain place where all boats can be locked up, (Hotbite) so just wondering if anyone knows of such a place.

from what i understand, they are left at the mackeral island motel... it is also part of the mackeral island ( thevenard ) group....

luke
fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

so there is a mack island motel in canarvon?

sorry dean...i thought you ment leave your trailer/car, when you stay on the islands.....as for your question... i dont know... maybe ring them and ask.....

luke
ps, i would just sleep in the boat/car for the night myself....

fish for fun, the future, and the belly!!!

Mackerel Island Motel in Onslow has the secure parking area for cars and trailers.

When i've overnighted in Carnarvon in the past I've just stayed in a chalet in one of the caravan parks. Never had any worries with the boat or car. Wintersun C P is a good one.

John

I head a little FURTHER NORTH each year,
Leave the cities behind, out of sight of mind,
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Don't stop

Its Sambo Time !!

I will be going thru in one go. Done the drive to Exy and Karratha many times in one go.
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Dean they leave the boats at the yacht club
just give them a ring and they should look after you.