Saragosa 18000
Submitted by bluebagger on Mon, 2009-01-19 08:06
Guys i'm in the market for new spin reel to do a bit of bottom bouncing/jigging with. While I would love a Stella or Saltiga can't warrant spending that much so I was looking at the Saragosa. Has anyone got one and given it a good workout? Also what else is there in that $4-500 range that would do the job. I've read a few people have got the Ryobis and are happy with them. Any other recommendations? Thanks.
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Leemo
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fishoreub had a saragosa but
fishoreub had a saragosa but i dont know the model. it handles nicely and feels really smooth. the ryobis seem a bit too much on the blingy side for a company that hasnt made good quality gear in the past. i have also heard that they are good but i myself wouldnt get one. buts again, its JMO
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Geez which Ryobi have you
Geez which Ryobi have you seen?? Ryobi has been up there with Daiwa and Shimano in the past but have slowly died away and lost popularity.
The Penn Applause and Affinity were actually Ryobi's in Asia and Japan. They were badged Appluase and Zauber and have been out for around 6-8yrs. The Safaris themselves have been out alot longer than you think. It was only out of production for the last 4 yrs. Ryobi is not owned by somebody else, who I dunno, but they are now producing top notch products and more than just reels.
They should bring back the Marfix lever drag overhead jigging reel. They were great back then.
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haha liam u cant bag ryobi u
haha liam u cant bag ryobi u cant even afford one
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The old safaris were rated
The old safaris were rated as quite good, and the new ones are supposed to be the same. Just because they arent painted, doesnt make them bling :p
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schecky
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yeah i got a saragosa 8k and
yeah i got a saragosa 8k and i love it
id go that
but ive heard only good things bout the ryobi...if you want a brand name go the shimano
bluebagger
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Moved this from the
Moved this from the recommendations forum to try and get a bit more response. Surely someones using the Saragosa or similar and has something good or bad to say. Thanks for the previous and hopefully coming feed back.
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I love
my 8000 Saragosa , very smooth and a lovely drag
Just one more cast , honest !!!
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when they first released the ryobi
it was made in Japan and cost over $1000. Its was the "must have" reel for jiggers in the early days of the sport.
They are now made in China, but I believe they are every bit as good as they once were. So comparitively speaking, $300 - $400 for them is good value.
Your choice (IMO) will come down to line class - the Ryobi will suit 50lb max, while the Saragosa 18000 will handle 65 - 80lb.
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Saragosas
Mate I started with a 5000 because I needed a good spin outfit here in Karratha.
Was convinced by the tackle shop that it was the model below Stella and I thought what the hell. It is fantastic and now I have 4, but not the 18000. I have the the 6000, 8000 and 14000 and have not had anything challenge the big 14000 so I have not gone to the 18000. Lets face it they arent the cheapist reel, and me splurging on 4 in less than 6 months tells more than all else I can say. Smoooth but sometimes with the bail arm open you get a stick trying to close it with the handle. only at certain points. hope this helps.
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You shouldnt be closing the
You shouldnt be closing the bail arm with winding the reel as that would wear out the bail trip. Best to close the bail manually, it'll last longer and your hand is closer to the line for control.
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Got one
I only had my 18000 for a few weeks, I have pulled up my 300/400 gram jigs with ease nice and smooth, bottom bounced with it & pulled up a few dhuey with it, the more i use this reel the more I like it. 37kg Black Magic on the spool with the depth markings on it.
I am hangin out to get on some Sambo and gve it a good test. next trip up north I will be chucking Poppers at GTs with it, I am more thatn confident this weapon will more than do the job. It has served me well so far.
You should go down to Ryan or Honsu and grab one, you wont regret it..
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Have a look at the new Twinpowers
They have a lot of Stella internals.
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The new Twinpowers are not
The new Twinpowers are not that big....Shimano Japan will introduce the new SW Twinpowers in the larger sizes later in the year.
In the meantime...the Saragosa is your best bet for an affordable large heavy duty spinning reel.
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Interesting
Those larger twinpowers sound interesting Honsu. I'm fishing a lot with an 8000 pg at the moment but it only holds about 280 metres of PE5.
Are the saragosa's based on the stella chassis as well?
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how you going john
i have just bought the twinpower 10000fc and absolutly love it
i just loaded 1 of the spools with 300m of 50lb plus backing
just need to fit a power knob now
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No...you cannot compare the
No...you cannot compare the Saragosa to the Stella.
2 completely different reels. The Saragosa is based on the popular Spheros but due to people wanting to "mod" and "beef" them up. They decided to produce a more upmarket model with all the extra bits. Looks good but they still missed one bit...right side of the main gear is still supported with a bushing. The extra bearings are in the Septon knob!! What a waste. Therefore if I were you I save the money and get a Spheros. Use it till its worn then fix it!!
Ask Adam G about his Spheros. How long has he used his until he did anything to it??
No info at all about the new 09 SW Twinpowers....just a Shimano Tech in Singapore told me they'll replacing the old Twinpower PG/HGs with the old FA chassis and new gears to go.
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hi honsu
do you know if the stella handles fit the twinpower 1000fc
if so do you still have the handle for that 8000sw
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My spheros 14000
has taken a beating and still runs like a champ. Best $350 odd I have spent for a strong SW reel that can "do it all" - jig, pop, troll, bottom bounce. You can keep your Saragosa, over-priced for what you get IMO when you can buy a spheros and tweak it up to and beyond Saragosa specs for less $.
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scottnofish
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i only paid 180 for mine
and just sold it for 100
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Justin Poole
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I only paid $350 for my saragosa
$350 is all i paid for my 18000 Saragosa, not a bad deal i thought
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Spheros V Saragosa
I agree with Honsu, both are good reels but for value the New Spheros is the go.In saying that, we do stock both and let the client choose after giving them the "in & out"
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saragosa too overpriced for
saragosa too overpriced for the quality, you could get something like a stradic or spheros and a rod for the same price.
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