Casting light line

I tried a few weeks ago, for the first time, light line fishing. The line was 6lb Yamatoyo braid but for me light can be anything under 20lb...

Anyway, I was very surprised how hard it is to fish with line this fine and how easily it can get knots when casting. Had a few nightmarish tangles where I've had to put it down and substitute with the heavier barra gear. The biggest thing for me was not being able to cast the leader knot through the guides... I learned this the hard way.

Does anyone have any tips to make casting light line easier and stress free? The reel I am using is a Penn Affinity 1000, courtesy of the Shizz


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try flick casting and keep

Sun, 2007-08-05 14:28

try flick casting and keep you index finger close to the spool so that it touches your finger when casting , also when retriving try to keep the light as taught as possible

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Knot

Sun, 2007-08-05 14:45

When I cast light on my over heads I tie a double the length of the rod so the knot containing the leader is not wound on and the leader is then made shorter. Works well on free lining for pinkies.

Cheers Jason

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When casting stop the line

Sun, 2007-08-05 17:44

When casting stop the line before the lure hits the water to bring the line tight thru the rod guides. This will stop the little loop of slack line forming in the reel when your first start the retrieve. Its this little loop that causes a lot of tangles next cast I have found.
I also, if it has been a big loopy cast, I grab the line in my fingers at the reel and wind on under tension until the slack is taken up. Its just something that has become a habit after a million casts with my trusty 2 kilo setup.
Line twist is a killer if your chucking twisty style lures as I havn't found a swivel yet that can prevent twist travelling up real light line. Even just the action of the spinning reel will impart twist in the line. After every session I strip out the first 50 meters or so and wind it back on with no terminal tackle to remove twist. If its bad you may have to do this 2 or 3 times.

Stick with it Jay as its a reel buzz landing those fish you usually wouldn't target on light line. Just dont be stupid with it and cause a lot of fish to be sharked or get to keep your lure down their throat because they are to big for the tackle used.
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Loops and knots created from

Sun, 2007-08-05 22:52

Loops and knots created from casting are caused by slack line on your reel. Main thing is after everycast maintain some kind of tension of your line before you wind it on. If that fails, use something alittle heavier ie 8lb or 10lb or even look at 4lb Fireline as its a stiffer line and tends to stick to itself after awhile which should prevent more knots.


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Yeh i agree with noah,

Mon, 2007-08-06 01:05

Yeh i agree with noah, always check the line lays properly after casting with no slack loops of line sticking out and  you should get far less wind knots. After flipping the bail arm raise/move rod to pull slack out of the line before winding, this will get the almost weightless line into the roller instead of sometimes wrapping round the rotor, which  happens with my affintiy.

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Hi Ya, From experience, do

Thu, 2007-08-09 13:52


Hi Ya,

From experience, do not rely on the auto bailarm return mechanism.  ALWAYS, return the bailarm manually after your cast.  I use 10lb fireline a lot and have foound that the auto return mechanism quite regularly caused a loop of line across the top of teh spool - a guarantee of a birdsnest in the next cast or two.

Returning the bailarm manually ia also a lot easier on your reel. 

Cheers.

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Good point mate, thankfully

Thu, 2007-08-09 14:09

Good point mate, thankfully all of my reels havent got the "auto" so it comes second to none to do it all the time, hense why i started to cast left handed(rod in left hand) so you tip the bail arm righthand (holding the line with the left index finger) cast left hand, bail over right hand, retrieve right hand, bailover right hand, recast lefthand and so on all in one motion and without changing the rod from one hand to the other. Another way i find that if you use your index finger to hold the line on the spool flip the bailarm over and cast with your finger on the spool....this stops loops forming and you can control the amount of line coming out which is very handy for fishing snaggs. When fishing snaggs with light line and light lures you need to cast hard to reach the spot but if you cast too hard the lure travels to much you can simply stop it with the index finger. It feels unco to start with but when your used to it it will feel no different. This style though u must cast right handed. These are the two styles i use and they work well for spinning reels and overheads and i havent had a knot form in ages, the best way is to teach yourself to cast both hands and it will make the difference. Once mastered you will laugh at a conventional cast.

Keep it tight, reeeeeeel tight!

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about a couple of months

Thu, 2007-08-09 14:22

about a couple of months ago, I think I made a post regarding the same sorta thing...

Everyone suggested that it may be the way the braid was wound on... which I believe coulda been true too, however, I fully ripped off the nitlon braid i had and put on fireline and it has never done it since...

But due to the problem, I have developed the habit that every second or third cast, or whenever im retrieving knowing that my hook has been stripped of bait, I run the line through my index and middle finger on my left hand while reeling in, to keep the line going onto the spool tight and firm and untwisted so that it casts off clean...

with lures, especially mainly surface ones like poppers, i was finding that I was actually getting more tangles due to the lure leaving the surface of the water when i jigged it and then the line would reel loose, thus looping and being loose on the reel for the next cast... this too, made knots when done a few times, which is why now I check my spool before casting for any signs that a hazard in the line will create a knot on the next cast...

If I find that some loops have made thier way around the reel outside of the spool or are too loose, ill  quickly drop the bait arm and pull it out and wind it in real quick through my fingers again... however, i realise that you cannot afford to do this all the time on a rock wall or in circumstances where you are casting more than 100m every time....

However, when I first started doing it, I used to use my fingers every single time and you get used to doing it... You dont need to do it when you have a fish on the other end because the fish usually generates enough tension to make sure it winds onto the reel right however, the only advice I can say is when using lures, you have to match the right line weight with the lure... if the line is too heavy for the lure, then youll get loose spots when you wind in....

(mental note, do not cast light hard bodies with line thats 10lb rofl)

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Rickets when you are working

Thu, 2007-08-09 15:19

Rickets when you are working a popper or lure that requires blooping or speeding up as such i find if you pull the rod tip down while standing straight towards your feet the lure will not leave the water most of the time. it is also easier to do it like this to create more action on the lure. Therefore no knots, try this if you already dont do it.

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thanks for the tip spessy...

Fri, 2007-08-10 11:58

thanks for the tip spessy... will remember that next time im out

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Another trick is to wind

Fri, 2007-08-10 18:49

Another trick is to wind more often and not bring the rod too far back towards or behind you.


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