Drum lines catch data released
Submitted by Versus on Tue, 2014-02-18 10:05
http://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/pages/StatementDetails.aspx?listName=StatementsBarnett&StatId=8107
Government has released drum line catch data. More caught metro than down south, but down south sharks were bigger. 63 of the 66 caught were Tigers, 2 Makos amongst them too.
sarcasm0
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Haha no Bull ?!
sea-kem
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Wow! They're getting a lot
Wow! They're getting a lot of Whites :/
Love the West!
carnarvonite
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And Bulls
Also getting heaps of bulls too
Not surprising the amount of tigers, though we never used to see many of them in the nets , always on the hooks attached to the float lines.
The couple of makos are not a great surprise either, both near Eagle bay / Rocky Point with the area round Wright's Bank just north of Cape Naturaliste a well known hot spot for them
Tradewind
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I'm not surprised to see the
I'm not surprised to see the majority are Tigers
There's a lot around and they'll more easily take a dead bait (Garbage Disposal Units)
Is there any real benefit to culling that species though?
Dicko
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There's 2 Mako's killed that
There's 2 Mako's killed that we will never get a chance to catch....
nana nana nana nana fishing!!!
sickkkkkk
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grey nurse
this may have been asked already but what happens if they accidentally kill a grey nurse?
carnarvonite
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Grey nurses
WA has a real healthy population of grey nurse sharks unlike the eastern states. With a relative flat bottom and most of the reef systems reasonable well offshore this put the WA grey nurses out of reach of divers compared to over east where it occurs close to shore but with Commonwealth regulations, one rule covers all.
At times at Koks island off Carnarvon they can be a real pest, just grabbing hooked snapper and letting them go resulting in damaged fish where as the other sharks will bite them off.
Rob H
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agree-off the NW coast east
agree-off the NW coast east of Glomar Shoal is an area that had so many we had to move away.
Not sure if it was a seasonal thing or what though.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
West Coast
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Grey Nurse
They get a heart defibulator and shock it back to life?
Doooma
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At least only 9 sharks in
At least only 9 sharks in total were dead on the lines over the 2 weeks... Could have been a lot worse..
Is this the time of year down south that drum lines would be effective on whites though??
There are a lot of 2 -2.5m sharks caught.. Maybe time to upsize hooks in the metro area I think!! May help stop some of the smaller ones getting caught!
chris raff
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Sept , Oct and Nov metro
Sept , Oct and Nov metro would have been the peak white period .. surprised no bronzies have been hooked .
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axey45
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Yep, like i said before the
Yep, like i said before the gov always to late. hope they deploy them earlier next time.
scotto
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Whities
Gotta agree with seakem, but we all know it's the wrong time of the year for most whites. Sept/oct/nov the prime time for them.
Although I strongly agree with the control measures, I personally don't have any dramas with the tigers frequenting our waters. They're generally pretty docile.
Great whites can go f*&*# themselves but. Kill them all, and burn their carcasses so they can never be resurrected.
sea-kem
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Was just saying that to a
Was just saying that to a mate on the weekend Scotto, wrong time of year to catch the whites if they were serious. They'll (the gov) will turn around now and say there's no great White problem.
Love the West!
Doooma
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Now thats funny as
Now thats funny as Scotto....
"I personally don't have any dramas with the tigers".....
Take a closer look at your profile pic...... hahahaha classic!!
meglodon
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That's a bit harsh
That's a bit of a harsh comment Scotto.
Michael Yoni
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Obviously Scotto and Seakem
Obviously Scotto and Seakem have a very short memory. Adam asked about the inclusion of certain language used in posts lot that long ago.
carnarvonite
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Won't be a next time
You could nearly bet that there won't be another season of drum lines.
They will come up with a lame excuse but the real reason will be political pressure from the electors giving their local pollies heaps.
mjohns
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www.shockmansion.com/2014/02/
www.shockmansion.com/2014/02/15/video-watch-this-guys-hilarious-opinion-on-the-shark-culling-happening-in-western-australia/
Funny but true
scotto
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Yeah
It's gonna be interesting to see what happens next. I hope they stick with the drum lines for a few years, to get some accurate results. There is no point stopping it now.
It will also be interesting to see the arguments if/when there is another attack, and whether the greenie cunce ark up about the drumlines not working. Hoping like a muther fooker that there isn't any more attacks, purely to shove it up the greens and protesters arses.
Versus
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Ironic
Ironic
D_d_001
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I'm hoping there isn't
I'm hoping there isn't another attack for a different reason
;)
southcity104
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gotta love the greens bycatch argument
shown here is the devistating bycatch numbers. dolpins, whales, birds, seals, unicorns = 0
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Howard George
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talking of By-Catch'
The mako's that were caught are not of the targeted species but were pulled from the water dead.
axey45
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Protesters=0
Protesters=0
Bodie
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the last catch down south at
the last catch down south at bunker bay of a 4.1m Tiger is pharking huge!
Maybe its a funny white shaped tiger?? :)
Does anyone really expect data for destroyed whites to be released to the public?
pale ale
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Good point! Would be
Good point!
Would be interesting to see how a mako reacts once it realises it is hooked
carnarvonite
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Whites
If they get a white you can bet they will stick pics and footage of it up everywhere to try to prove their case.
Makos seem to die very quickly when hooked on set lines, never found a live one in dozens that I've caught that way
pale ale
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makos probably thrash and go
makos probably thrash and go crazy for a couple minutes then die of exhaustion?
Doooma
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A bit like me nowdays!! ;-)
A bit like me nowdays!! ;-)
pricey10
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Interesting... There's alot
Interesting... There's alot tigers Down there that might explain why I haven't seen one up here in ages
Karratha. WA
snappermiles
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you gotta laugh
66 sharks caught in two weeks most released and yet theres a massive uproar! how many sharks havent been caught since they stopped shark fishing in the metro area!
ALL FISHERMEN ARE LIARS EXCEPT YOU AND ME! AND IM NOT SO SURE ABOUT YOU!
crasny1
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It might just be me and
It might just be me and language.
And I am all for drum lines but somehow the word "destroyed" sound to violent.
Perhaps the government could change that word to something less agro like dispatched, euthanised etc.
To me it feels like ammo for the green when you say destroyed?
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Versus
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haha, destroyed is slightly
haha, destroyed is slightly better than "shot in the head multiple times"
crasny1
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LOL
Even that sounds better than destroyed. If you destroy something its like blowing it up into a million pieces, ie destroyed!!
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chris raff
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Big Bad Col was on the radio
Big Bad Col was on the radio yesterday and stated he wanted to keep the drumlines in the water all year round down the SW.. and has no intention of taking a backward step .
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Howard George
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Just When You Think
When you start to doubt the intelligence of some people they open their mouths and confirm that they're not that smart and Col Barnett is a classic example. To me it seems he wants to kick sand in the face of the protesters just to show who's in control but in a democratic society it has it's short-comings.
carnarvonite
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Cost
Cheaper for the contractor down south than to run a Fisheries boat with twin diesels and 4 crew 7 days a week off the metro coast.
Also less people down there to take notice on what is being caught and photographed and to be sent to the media. Hopefully for him, out of sight equals out of mind.
dumper
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Anti cull crew had a win
Anti cull crew had a win yesterday with some pretty damning pics of a tiger "sinking" after being released. Brace yourselves for some today tonight backlash
crasny1
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Yes but tigers arent protected like
GW, although you cant "take" a whaler shark and I think the Tiger's are in the category with a interdorsal fin lenght >700mm.
Not sure about commercial restriction. Perhaps Someone knows this.
A small GW sinking would be ammo for sure.
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