Fish ID
Submitted by reece on Thu, 2014-05-15 22:50
A mate got 3 of these buggers in 190m off exmouth! Any ideas? It's not a gray band an not a mulloway
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Ben Derecki
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Looks like a bass groper?I'll
Looks like a bass groper.
I'll leave it to the deep drop gurus to confirm though...
reece
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Nah not a bass or puka
Nah not a bass or puka
Any one free to help me pull my drum lines tomorrow?
MattMiller
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Glen Moore?
looks like something he'd be interested in
Dropbear88
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what depth did he get
what depth did he get them??
it looks very similar to the big "blue bastards" i have seen caught there. get quite dark through the body, and the fins and eye position look the same. see what you think, pic of one below
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Brucesta
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won't be a blue bastard. must
won't be a blue bastard. must be a 8 bar or Harpuka there i would have thought, whatever it is it'll taste alright.
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Dropbear88
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just read on. 190m of water.
just read on. 190m of water. dont know if blue bastards go that deep.
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Glenn Moore
original thought was a puka - then 8 bar. One for Glenn for sure.
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The camera flash puts you
The camera flash puts you off a bit but 8 Bar
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Alan James
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I'm undecided on this
I agree that the camera flash is deceptive but there is no visible sign of white on the fins which is common to 8 bar. It also looks a bit slender for an 8 bar but that maybe camera angle.
I sent a pm to Glenn Moore on this one earlier today so it will be interesting to see his comments.
MattMiller
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Really
head shapes a bit off, body quite lean, no white edges on any fins, lack of bars (though not unusual)?
Where Glenn when we need him?
LOL, beat me by that much Alan
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Dotted Grouper
OK, this one is tricky and would be nice to examine the fish in detail. However after doing a bit of research, I've decided this is a large Dotted Grouper Epinephelus epistictus . Bucko got a smaller one just a few weeks ago http://mobile.fishwrecked.com/forum/deep-drop-exmouth-fish-id. So, as Alan and Matt and others noted, the head shape is a bit different to the Eightbar - in fact the thing that stood out the most to me was just how long the head is (we measure the head from the upper lip to the rear edge of the gill cover). The white edges to the fins should still be visible in an Eightbar of this size. Large Dotted Groupers can lose the dots, but if you look carefully, there are still a few midbody, above the pectoral fin. I can also make out some faint markings on the head, which you'd expect in Dotted Groupers.
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Alan James
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Thanks Glenn
appreciate you input as always.
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deffinatly a dotted
deffinatly a dotted