so if i'm in the market for a new radio i should get a VHF, and just use it to log on/off with or without a license even although i should really have a license.
have to organise an rst soon, will ask the instructor what he thinks.
The vast majority of recreational boats these days use VHF. Currently the requirements for offshore boating are either a 27MHz or VHF but the new legislation will stipulate VHF only.
From a practical point of view VHF is vastly better anyway.
Curious-the "Deckee App", how does that affect VHF/27meg suitability? I know 27 meg is about done as a safety tool (it never suited me) but it can still be used as boat to boat etc
The great advantage of using a radio to log on-is that you know it works BEFORE you actually need it to save your life
Allows log on and off by using the app on your phone and can even track the boats actual position at all times. Seems highly likely this is the way we are headed ......similar to that in use in NSW
And yes 27 Mhz great for boat to boat short range but little else
We were 14 mile off Mindarie on Sat and we had 3x phones with no reception. I only have the one album downloaded on Spotify and I am Lateralus'd out.
It'd be an issue in that I like to set a conservative log off time and will call back and extend the time if staying out longer rather than risk something happening and it being 4-6 hours before I am even deemed to be missing.
We still use 27 meg for boat to boat at the Bird. Always do a radio check before setting off. I'd love to convert everyone over to VHF but a lot of those old boys won't spend the money on their old boats.
Saying that we are always in contact with each other and shore base as well.
SpotHound
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Sadly
Sadly pretty well worthless now that they will be banned shortly and only VHF allowed under the new rules.
resurgence
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Not banned
Just not acceptable as minimum equipment.
rac
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when are these new rules
when are these new rules coming out and does that mean everyone will need a license to log on/log off?
resurgence
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No date set yet
There is no date set for the new safety rules, althought I expect it will be within the next 12 months.
Technically you already need a licence to use a VHF but the requirement is not currenly enforced for recreational users.
rac
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so if i'm in the market for
so if i'm in the market for a new radio i should get a VHF, and just use it to log on/off with or without a license even although i should really have a license.
have to organise an rst soon, will ask the instructor what he thinks.
resurgence
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Yes
The vast majority of recreational boats these days use VHF. Currently the requirements for offshore boating are either a 27MHz or VHF but the new legislation will stipulate VHF only.
From a practical point of view VHF is vastly better anyway.
sunshine
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And the likely introduction of the Deckee app
Unfortunately 27meg doesn't cut it unless you are close inshore
Rob H
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Curious-the "Deckee App",
Curious-the "Deckee App", how does that affect VHF/27meg suitability?
I know 27 meg is about done as a safety tool (it never suited me) but it can still be used as boat to boat etc
The great advantage of using a radio to log on-is that you know it works BEFORE you actually need it to save your life
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
sunshine
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Been running a trial of the app
Allows log on and off by using the app on your phone and can even track the boats actual position at all times. Seems highly likely this is the way we are headed ......similar to that in use in NSW
And yes 27 Mhz great for boat to boat short range but little else
resurgence
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Coverage is a problem
I like the concept of the Deckee app but it has a major shortcoming - it only works if you have cell phone coverage.
Jackfrost80
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We were 14 mile off Mindarie
We were 14 mile off Mindarie on Sat and we had 3x phones with no reception. I only have the one album downloaded on Spotify and I am Lateralus'd out.
It'd be an issue in that I like to set a conservative log off time and will call back and extend the time if staying out longer rather than risk something happening and it being 4-6 hours before I am even deemed to be missing.
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
sea-kem
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We still use 27 meg for boat
We still use 27 meg for boat to boat at the Bird. Always do a radio check before setting off. I'd love to convert everyone over to VHF but a lot of those old boys won't spend the money on their old boats.
Saying that we are always in contact with each other and shore base as well.
Love the West!
dmck
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Date Joined: 07/03/19
27Mh vs VHF
27Mh:
4 watts
AM
subject to interference
No licence required
VHF;
25 watts (fixed mount models) 5 watts usually fir hand held
FM
not prone to interference
Licence required... except in an emergency
beeroclock
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