Heading out of Two rocks in 3-3.5m swells ?dangerous
Submitted by beeroclock on Wed, 2016-05-18 11:56
Was thinking of heading out of Two rocks this sunday arvo, wind predicted to drop right off but swells still 3-3.5m. Ive gone out of there heaps of times in 2-2.5m swell and it was OK at end of lead line where it gets to 9m deep, still had to watch for one or two that came up a bit quicker but what about 3-3.5m swells? too risky? if so do you guys think Mindarie may be a better option? any advice appreciated cheers Dave
Jmac
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Sunday
Will be out I think mate, talk of 35knot winds on Saturday.
even with no wind on Sunday the ocean will be terrible.
stay home and watch the footy.
Da pirate
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Confidence bud !!
If ya asking in here and your a bit unsure buddy !!
Probally best to sit it out !! I've only got
4m tinnie so I'm suss on anything over 2m !
Mind you that's fishing 30ms thou !! Anyway
goodluck and safe fishing !! Cheers da pirate !
Leemo
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i've been out in 3.5, on a
i've been out in 3.5, on a glass off. That was still hairy getting out of the marina, had to time it right but once we got to 30m it flattened out more. 3m with wind is, simply put, a no go. Youll get 5 minutes out and want to turn around.
bludgin' since 94'
Bryce Day
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is it te new thing to go
is it te new thing to go fishing in big swell?
z00m
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Wind
I think it's the low wind after the continuous blow we had in the last 6 months!
Deleted
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if you do head out radio in
if you do head out radio in to sea rescue that your about to cross 3 mile then radio in once safe and clear of breaking waves, same again when coming back in.
personally i wouldnt bother as the ocean will still be churned up real bad, i did try last year on a big 3m swell and couldnt find a safe passage north of marina. the whole bank was closing out as far as i could see, i no other boats headed south same day and made it through.
johnno67
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Stay home
Swell is no problem just the wind not worth the chance can be no wind going out then when that wind comes up if it does then you got dramas unpredictable
Da pirate
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I think so !!
I think so Bryce !! Tina turner had a great hit back in the day !!
what was it something along the lines of ? We don't need another
hero?? They normally end up swimming with the fish not catching !!
Lol !! Cheers fellas da pirate !!
Paul H
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Always need to consider the
Always need to consider the swell period (distance between swells in seconds) as well as the swell height. This will give a good idea of the steepness of the swells.
A 3 metre swell at 8 second intervals will be steep where as a 3 metres swell at 18 second intervals will be gentle
most decent marine weather sites will provide swell period info
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crasny1
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plus 3m swell
The only place I MIGHT (??) go is tight in Coburn sound. At least Garden Island will provide shelter. Come to think about it - Nah, comfort not worth it.
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Leemo
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long period 3m swell is ok,
long period 3m swell is ok, as long as their is no wind haha.
bludgin' since 94'
Bryce Day
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The good seaman weathers the
The good seaman weathers the storm he can not avoid, and avoids the storm he cannot weather.
z00m
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This should be painted on
This should be painted on every boat ramp!
Da pirate
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One of the best !!!
Never heard that one before ! Has too be one
of the best !! I'd dare say I'll be on the rockwall
Sunday morning ! Cheers fellas and stay safe
Pirate !!
meglodon
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Don't be a damn fool
In swell of that size don't be a fool and put your safety at risk and that of others who may be called upon to put their lives at risk to save you should things go real bad for you, which in seas of that size are a very real possibility and probability.
I can't think of one fish in the sea that is worth putting your life at very high risk for.
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Bodie
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yep, stupid to head out in
yep, stupid to head out in that, there is always another day.... fish arent going anywhere.
Mindarie with a swell like that, most of the 3 mile will break.
Stay home, have a beer, watch some footy, go next weekend.
cruisecraft02
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Surf
Or you can go for a surf
hezzy
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nah ,not going to be good lol
nah ,not going to be good lol
http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/forecasts/perth-waters.shtml
Perth Local Waters Forecast: Two Rocks to Dawesville, inshore from Rottnest Island
Sunday 22 May
Winds Southwesterly 20 to 30 knots turning westerly 20 to 25 knots during the morning then decreasing to 10 to 15 knots during the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 metres, decreasing to 1 metre during the afternoon or evening. Swell West to southwesterly 4 to 6 metres, decreasing to 3 to 4 metres during the afternoon or evening. Weather Cloudy. 80% chance of showers. Caution Dangerous surf conditions hazardous for coastal activities such as swimming, surfing and rockfishing.
Monday 23 May
Winds Northerly 15 to 25 knots increasing to 25 to 30 knots during the evening. Seas Around 1 metre, increasing to 2 to 3 metres during the morning. Swell West to southwesterly 2.5 to 4 metres, decreasing to 2 to 3 metres during the morning. Weather Partly cloudy. 30% chance of a shower. Caution Dangerous surf conditions hazardous for coastal activities such as swimming, surfing and rockfishing.
Please be awareWind gusts can be 40 percent stronger than the averages given here, and maximum waves may be up to twice the height. Wind warnings are issued for today and tomorrow and describe the highest category of wind warning for that day.
OFW 11
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sea-kem
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Who wants to go fishing when
Who wants to go fishing when there's good comedy on TV watching the Dorkers.
Love the West!
Bryce Day
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Most boats are on trailers
Most boats are on trailers so you can always find somewhere that's not windy!!!!
Gray
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If you're a fifoJealousy
If you're a fifo
Jealousy speaking
Marineboy
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Hey gray
what was the score yesterday ? Did you try that sounder tuning info ?
My spots are so secret even the fish don't know about them !
Gray
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Hey mark.Pretty crap. Lost a
Hey mark.
Pretty crap. Lost a few and only came back with a shark.
Yeah that document was pretty much how i do it
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timboon
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No disrespect intended Paul
No disrespect intended Paul H but an 8 sec swell is gutless compared to an 18 sec swell...
Way more power in a long period swell!!
So this basically means that a smallish swell with a long period will mean the wave height/power is signifigantly higher!!
I agree with the above though anyone that is on here asking questions about whether its safe or not safe def should not be going anywhere if they not confident.
Bryce Day
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Your off your tits!
Your off your tits! I'd rather an 6m swell at 20 sec int than a 2m swell at 5 sec int slap city bud!!!!
timboon
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LOL where you going to be
LOL where you going to be fishing/launching in a 6mtr swell @ 20?.....
I didnt realise we were worried about slap city?!?!
I thought we were talking about big sneaker sets cleaning you up as you trying to shoot a gap somewhere on the way out......
Short gutless large swell that break often is alot more predictible than a huge period beast....
I surf its what we look for when awaiting a big tow day to bother taking the ski's out....
In saying this i live in the SW, I cant speak for Perth area but its my experience in the SW......
Paul H
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Actually Timboon we are both
Actually Timboon we are both correct
a 3m swell is a 3m swell height remains the same offshore however will rise higher as it builds to break
your right long period swell will have more power/force when breaking and can catch some out due to the fact the breaking waves are further apart and they may stray into a dangerous position unawares.
I was referring more to offshore in deep water where swell is not breaking and a longer period swell will be more gentle (as in more of a gentle rolling swell than steeper short swell).
Offshore - I'd take longer period swell of the same size most days
Have fished plenty of big swells offshore here in SA (launching from protected waters) all drift fishing or trolling as you obviously don't want to snag your anchor and I only suggest it for the experienced. You want to take a number of things into account including bottom topography of the local area.
pretty strange when your fishing with another boat and you only see them every tenth wave when your both on top at the same time.
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timboon
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Yep got you Paul and know it
Yep got you Paul and know it well out wide in SA...
Makes it easy spotting the Tuna schools out wide on the nice days...
BarraSlayer
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Sunday
Looks like we are set for more 3-4m swells this weekend
Cheers
BarraSlayer
dant
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Anyone going out - just got a
Anyone going out - just got a new engine installed and thinking about heading out
BarraSlayer
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Looking at sunday morning
Looking at sunday morning from ocean reef after the front on saturday moves through... still undecided on the swell though... bom has 2.5 to 4m... not keen on 4m but other sites like windfinder jave it 3.4m
Dont know... pretty keen for a fiah though
Cheers
BarraSlayer