Light weight spinning with braid - wind knots?

 Hi All,

After reading all these reports on people catching whiting on poppers and stickbaits Ive decided to have a go at it. I havent got anything light enough for this kind of fishing but am thinking of getting myself and the missus a pair of Trion rods and matching reels.

Now my question is, are wind knots fairly common with this type of fishing as the lures and baits used are fairly light?  Does the line sit nicely back on the spool after retrieving? I'll be using braid of around 6lb but want to know if theres anything else I should be aware of prior to spending hard earned cash on something that will frustrate me if wind knots happen a lot.

Have a Salt that gets a few wind knots when spinning with lures and it got so annoying that I rarely use that reel anymore.

 

Thanks in advance for any tips


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A braid or fireline that'll

Tue, 2015-12-15 11:39

A braid or fireline that'll reduce windknots would be handy. Most importantly to go a braid or fireline with as small diameter at possible, makes all the difference when trying to get some distance with very light lures. Sits nicely on the spool when retrieving.

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 I think the reel plays a big

Tue, 2015-12-15 12:02

 I think the reel plays a big part in wether you get wind knots. Some reels get heaps, some get barely any. That said, if your line management is poor you are almost guaranteed wind knots. 

Ive switched to 6lb spiderwire after not really enjoying the fireline and its been great for the last 6 months, no wind knots at all on a sienna 2500 (never got any with fireline either, just got wirey and lacked suppleness)

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Type of knot matters!

Tue, 2015-12-15 12:38

 FG knot is overkill for this style of fishing but almost never get wind knots while using it...albright easier to tie out in the water, but much more likely to have issues. Haven't used a back-to-back uni in years, but I reckon would have dramas too.

You can also minimise chances of a wind knot by casting WITH the wind, and slightly heavier lures, like sugapens, atomic walkers and strada dancers, all in the 60-70mm size, help too.

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Wind the slack line in

Tue, 2015-12-15 15:23

Wind the slack line in bewteen your forefinger and thumb after casting, it is loose braid on the spool that is the biggest contributing factor for wind knots. Bit of a pain at the start but soon becomes second nature

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 Watch the lure as is just

Tue, 2015-12-15 17:14

 Watch the lure as is just about to hit the water stop the line on the spool with your finger so it comes up tight.

plus the lure lands with the hooks facing the right way and most likely not to get caught on the line.

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if you overfill your spool

Tue, 2015-12-15 20:27

will increase the chances of wind knots.2 to 4mm under the spool lip is the go>>

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 100% aggree. On my Sedona

Tue, 2016-01-05 13:04

 100% aggree. On my Sedona 1000 used to get them all the time now that I cut off about 10m of line it has no dramas whatsoever.

Palsy I use a combo that would be perfect for whiting but use it for bream, but only use 4lb braid. This is tough as and whenever I snap off on bream it is always because the trace snaps, not the main line.

 

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Make sure your leader to

Tue, 2015-12-15 21:15

Make sure your leader to braid knot is off the reel when your lure is hanging from the rod tip ready to cast. So the joining knot somewhere between your line holding finger & the 1st guide. Knots tend to slap against the 1st guide if they are cast off the reel & the line can get caught on the knot as it tries to peel off the spool. Never had a wind knot caused by an Albright in a lot of years casting lures.

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Wed, 2015-12-16 02:38

Bang on mate, makes a massive difference hey

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light braid

Thu, 2015-12-17 03:00

Braid is fine for light spinning/popping I have used it since it became available in the 80s I think.when doing freshwater I like the way it floats in the air until the tension is applied and usually floats on the surface depending on brand.Not so good for stalking overgrown creeks as if it snags bush it will cut very easy.I use 6lb platypus for bush walking and braid for the dams.Duncan

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Get a chapstick

Tue, 2016-01-05 12:10

A neat little trick I picked up from facebook last year and seems to work is to get a chapstick and rub it on the wind knot.

Once it has soaked in for a few seconds just pull on the line and the knot should come out.  There is a video from Mustad on it here https://youtu.be/6K8qjseYfmw.