Need help valuing a boat.
Hey fellow wreckers,
I'm looking at buying a boat, not knowing very much i thought i'd throw it to you lads and see what you think. Here's what i know about it:
The Boat:
- 6.2m 2005 Noble Super Vee centre cab
- some cosmetic damage as shown in pics; cracks in perspex shield, bent support where the canopy joins the cab, paint job pretty rough
- hull seems ok, doesn't appear to have any cracks in it.
- carpet is stuffed and needs replacing
- has kill tank and live bait (not plumbed in)
- VHF & Radio
The Motor:
- 200 hp Yammy on the ass with 214 hrs.
- hasnt been run up in over 12 months
- will need a service done on it ASAP
- needs 2 new batteries
- little to no fuel sitting in the tank since last use
Extras:
- VHF and radio with speakers
- deck wash
- electric windlass
- I was told the whole boat has been rewired
- plotter/gps i think a furuno
- boat cover
The Bad:
- Trailer needs replacing, can't even get it to the boat ramp to go for a sea trial. which means i'm up for the cost of a new trailer (approx. $7000 delivered)
- i've been told that the reason they replaced the old motor was because it ended up wrapping itself around the anchor line and semi submerged the boat one day.
- Carpet needs replacing
- an electrical issue with the auto bilge pump
- she's pretty dirty, not nice to look at but will clean up nicely once i spend a bit of time on it.
- motor and boat have been sitting in a dusty shed for over 12 months
- i'm going to have to hire a crane to get it on the new trailer. would like to hear ideas of how to get it on the new one without the crane?
Asking price of $30,000 firm. is this a fair price for this boat? do i have room to bargain and how much?
It is in a remote location with not much buying interest. 6-7 hours drive to get it to where i live.
Ben85
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Date Joined: 20/11/11
can't see the pics but
can't see the pics but sounds like its overpriced by at least 10k for a rough 6.2m hull and a 13 year old motor which hasnt been run in a year.
OD
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Date Joined: 17/03/18
have put the pics up on the ad
updated ad to include pics
gruntre69
Posts: 533
Date Joined: 15/10/16
The things that make up the
The things that make up the price of a boat really are the following:
Hull
Electonics
Motor and controls (Can be as much as 40% of the value)
Trailer
Extras
You didn't post a link which would help. Also the age of the hull and motor and the type /model of motor. If it's a 4 stroke and less than 5 years old at those hours it could be a very good deal at $30K. I don't know specifics about Yamaha but they are a popular 4 stroke choice...
Marine trimmer NOR (available for clears, tops, carpet, upholstery, custom equipment covers)
OD
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Date Joined: 17/03/18
no link
sorry no link to this boat private sale.
it's a 4 stroke, 2010-11 motor.
OD
Posts: 13
Date Joined: 17/03/18
no link
sorry no link to this boat private sale.
it's a 4 stroke, 2010-11 motor.
Darren253
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Date Joined: 23/07/16
Too much...
I picked up a 2003 6.1m Stessl (Honda 135 4stroke) for $20k with a similar story but on a good condition road master trailer.
Full rebuild including paint, canvas, anchor winch, motor work over (leaking oil seal that cost $3k in labour to get too) cost me $12-13k but a shed load of my time.
When it was time to sell, I sold it for $33k in 2 days.
I don't think you want to be paying any more than $20k without a trailer. Low hrs 4 stroke Yami 200 might bump the price 3-5k if clean.
z00m
Posts: 1086
Date Joined: 10/05/14
Gamble
Why would you spend $30k on a boat you can't see in the water?
Stale fuel could have ruined the fuel system
Cable guy can't fix a bilge pump?
6.2m spitfire trailer is under $6k
If you want to transfer old to new then tow the new trailer to pickup point, hire a tilt tray tow wagon man to meet you there, tilt tray pulls the boat/trailer up from the stern, secure boat and trailer via straps to truck, cut the winch post off, have tow wagon man wangle the tray down so you can winch only the boat onto the new trailer.
Noble boats are made in China aren't they?
As a non runner I would think at $20K it might be reasonable. $25k if mechanical inspection passed with flying colours.
You're doing all the work to extract the value so the buyer shouldn't expect you to pay a premium.
P.S. also can't see pics.
OD
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Date Joined: 17/03/18
this model aussie made
they started off designing them in aus but went offshore after this model i believe.
ranmar850
Posts: 2702
Date Joined: 12/08/12
Noble?
Wasn't there some big issues with those after the manufacturing went offshore? No expert here, but IIRC they were a good design and pretty well built here, but then went offshore and went to crap, some real horror stories. I have no idea whether a 2005 would be a locally or offshore built, or I may actually have everything completely arse about. Do some research, google is your friend.
www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php/184226-Noble-Boat-lt-2yo-Cracked-and-Sinking
www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php/205092-Oz-design-Chinese-build-U-K-Fit-out/page2
bouttime
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Date Joined: 27/07/06
Sent you a PM give me a call
Sent you a PM give me a call I know the boat your talking about
resurgence
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Date Joined: 23/04/14
Reality
The reality is that you’re looking at a hull that’s been submerged and a motor of unknown status and reliability. I’d say $15-20k max. You could be $20-30k into this thing at the drop of a hat just to get it on a trailer and running.
ranmar850
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Date Joined: 12/08/12
Semi-submerged
if it hasn't been done already, you are looking at replacing every bit of wiring, including battery cables switch panels, battery switches, circuit breakers. On top of all the defects you have told about or are obvious to the eye. It starts to add up. And 6K for a trailer for a 6.2 m boat? That would be very cheap, new, and certainly would need to be under 1999kg GTM. I just paid more than double that, although mine goes 2700kg GTM--but remember, if you have dreams of "taking it away up north" it will be loaded up and will definitely be over the non-breakaway braked limit.