Non return clips - I'm an ignoramous!
Submitted by buschy on Thu, 2011-03-31 18:26
Hi all,
Planning to use non-return clips next weekend down in Yeagarup in an effort to get my bait beyond the surf. I'm a complete novice and this will be a first for me. Attaching the rig and sinker is simple enough - but can anyone tell me how to attach the clip to the mainline? Does it need to be wound around the 'spring'?
Also, for those with experience slide baiting is there anything I should look out for or any general tips / advice you can provide?
Thanks,
Buschy :-)
DieHard
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hey matemake sure your sinker
hey mate
make sure your sinker can hold great espicially in surf!
here is a link step by step...
http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=21947&forum_id=76
with tips:
if using whole bait cut tail off
once you have slid the bait and it hits the water jerk the rod up and down for around 5minutes, or until you think its good enough, even if it hasnt hit the stopper ring the current wil be enough to get it all the way...
also give the sinker a few minutes to rest and take hold in the sand...
cheers!
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MattMiller
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Great reply Diehard
that's the sort of thing i've been looking for too. Is there somewhere online you can order them from?
Remember i'm in the SW so recommending a Perth tackle store isn't alot of help.
Sharktale
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Slides
Matt, are you still chasing slides?
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cuthbad
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thats exactly right, wrap the
thats exactly right, wrap the mainline around the "springs" starting from the back of the slide, or the end furthest from where you attach your trace. Obviously the main line should run smoothly through the coils when finished. and yea take the tail off as diehard said, can also take of gill plates for a bit more smell in the water
A couple of tips for sliding in surf:
1) as diehard said, give the sinker plenty of time to set. Depending on the beach and the size bait this might take up to 5 mins. Trust me, your rather give it the extra minute than get the bait half way out and have the sinker pull.
2) if fishing a beach with a strong cross current, after casting walk 40 or 50 metres up current from your sinker and slide your bait from there, this way your not fighting the current all the way out. If you have room stay and fish up current from your sinker, got a better chance of your slide staying right down and less chance of getting burnt off.
3) Timing your "shakes" in surf takes a bit of practice. Work with the surf, so when white water or waves is coming towards your bait, hold the line tight to stop your slide moving back. With the back wash give it a bit of slack and some slow shakes.
4) Again on the surf side of things, use a fairly short slide trace. A lot of people will say anywhere from 1m to 1.5m is fine, but in surf you will find it alot easier with maybe 80cm slide trace.
Finally, if theres alot of weed, basically forget it.... your slide wont get far.
btw theres a great vid on attaching the slide I just cant find it right now, maybe have a look on youtube or pm me if ya get stuck. Goodluck man, planning on heading south in a few weeks as well and trying to get into the bronzies following the salmon
buschy
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Cheers
Thanks to all...good advice and that helps heaps. Worried that next weekend will be too early after last year we were a week too late (pulled it back a week) but if the salmon are not there hopefully there is a 20k mulla just waiting in the gutter :-p
buschy
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Cheers
hmmm double post not sure how that happened...I only clicked once. Still gives me a chance to say FISH ON BRO!
Ryan C
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non return clips
these are the ones cuthbad uses for his prehistoric rays =they usually don't return along with a shit load of line!!!LOL
axeten
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The link "diehard" posted is
The link "diehard" posted is really good.
It does seem more aimed at sharks and monster fish though. Can you use these slidng rigs on a normal mono line just for beach fishing when the waves are big? I had the problem last week of my line dragging back in with the waves all the time. These things look like a good idea. or should i just use a bigger star sinker to dig in some more?
I'm guessing they sell these at BCF's and similar stores?
grantarctic1
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Grapnel sinkers
With the slide baits you want to use grapnel ( break away ) sinkers.
You can use them with normal beach fishing as well. I use them pretty much all the time exept when i want my rig to move around .
Cheers Grant
Blue Whaler
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I'd suggest a grapnel sinker
I'd suggest a grapnel sinker for rough water - like what we had over the w/end - 6 / 7 oz are perfect. If targeting big fish - sharks, rays ect - with sliding, and the surf is big, nothing less than a 10 - 12oz longneck grapnel.
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Bungel
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nice read up. Cheers for all
nice read up.
Cheers for all the posts guys. alot of good info here.
knigit
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Thread hi-jacking but
Thread hi-jacking but hopefully it'll help buschy too.
How do you hook the fish when livebaiting with a non-return?
I've been using a single big circle in the shoulder, with the barb and point at the top, pointing backwards. Works well for letting the fish swim away from the beach, but was thinking the other day that once the clip gets down a bit lower, that it would be pulling the fish upside down the whole time.
Was just wondering this because my livies only last for about 2hrs when slidebaiting vs 5hrs plus for ballooning.
Blue Whaler
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Hi knigit;For 2 hours I would
Hi knigit;
For 2 hours I would not complain - you've done good. Any livey you slide out will give max 1hr - 2hr as you do put the fish under pressure. The closer you get to the bottom of the line the more pressure and "heavier" the line becomes for the fish. It does make a difference if you lengthen your trace line up to 80cm - 90cm.
In my opinion - if you have had no bite on a livey for 1hour - move to another spot or put a fresh livey on.
Cheers
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Northern Pike
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sounds interesting will have
sounds interesting will have to try.