Penn 850 equal
Submitted by Boppo on Mon, 2009-04-13 11:18
Looking for a reel that will do the same job as an 850 but maybe a bit lighter in weight. Looking at putting 14pound braid on one spool and 30 pound on the other. Thinking around the 150 -250 dollar mark. Will be used for spinning up in nortern waters and some beach fishing around perth.
wade stenhouse
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spheros 8000
spheros 8000
Boppo
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Cheers, sure to check one
Cheers, sure to check one out this week.
hlokk
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Most 4000 sized reels will
Most 4000 sized reels will hold 300m of 30lb braid (depending on the braid). (it varies a bit though). The larger sizes would be more suitable if you wanted to run mono, but if you're just running braid, why run something a lot larger than you'd need? The 4000 sized reels will be about half the weight of the 850 to. Some people dont seem to like really small reels even if they do all they want though :p
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Addicted to jiggingBoppo
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What about drag pressure and
What about drag pressure and what it does over time?
hlokk
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Well, shimano rates the 4000
Well, shimano rates the 4000 saragosa for example at 10kg. Not that you'd be running anything near that high (and probably not recommended). Even my 2000 sized daiwas can crank out 4kg+ (not that I ever run it) so drag pressure is rarely a problem.
The 4000 is the last before the size jump (from sub 400g to over 550g). Depends how much you care about light weight. At under 600g for a 5000-8000ish size compared to 740g for the 850, you're still getting a weight saving, and probably a more similarily sized reel (which a lot of people seem to prefer). Bulk doesnt always equal strength though. I'm not saying go for a 4000 over a larger size, just something to consider if you want to go with something lighter you can chuck lures around all day with (weight in beach/bait fishing it doesnt matter as much).
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Saragosa's 18K
not too sure how well they are made
Fozz got his GT on a saragosa the other day, had the drag set pretty tight with pe10 (approx 12kg's), fish pulled that hard the handle unscrewed and the reel started spinning until he could get the handle done up tight again, and believe be the handle was bloody tight to start off with, drag seemed ok when it was loaded up they say they are good for around 15kg but i would say more like 8-10
http://fishwrecked-reeltime.com/
SHizz
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A 4000 for spinning IMO is
A 4000 for spinning IMO is just a bit small, even a higher speed reel , the spool diameter is too small to bring in line fast and the despite the fishermen having a lighter reel they get more tired from having to wind fast!
I'd stick to a 8000 size reel . Check out the Stradic 8000's or Shimano Oceano 4500J.
Boppo
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Good point. Have been
Good point. Have been cranking poppers and the like for well over 20 years and I have found speed is pretty important and when you crank one back every 30 secs or so over a few hours you need a reel with high line gain