The RAT
Submitted by Men On Boats on Sat, 2009-07-11 10:30
Now on display at Men On Boats.
Thanks to all the Fishwrecked response to the initial design and input.
Running a Yanmar 260 Turbo Deisel, 450 liters of fuel giving 900km range. 150 liters of water with freshwater transom shower, toilet to sullage tank, sleeping for 3, 2 in floor kill tanks with underwater viewing windows, bleed tank, removable kill tank.
The fiberglass targa, rador dome collapses for storage or travelling.
Running Raymarine C120 with 1kw transducer, VHF 27 meg radios, Fusion stereo, spotlight, electric anchor winch, storage everywhere, deck wash.
Come and have a look. There are two other new models of the Abrolhos coming out over the next 2 months, so look out for those.
Regards
Andrew
damo6230
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very nice
another solid boat and very professional finish
any sea trials?
Mick
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Bloody nice looking rig.
Bloody nice looking rig. What sort of coin are you looking at Andrew?
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Andy Mac
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Dreamboat (fisho style)
Looks the goods for sure Andrew.
Having seen it during construction, I know your getting a very high quality, well finished boat for your money.
Looking forward to seeing how she goes on the water, like a rocket I'd reckon.
Its taken a while to get it up and out of the factory but worth the wait, she looks amazing. Congratulations.
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devonm
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sweet
how much is it?
and whats the lenght?
PJAY
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one powerball and its
one powerball and its mine?????
The Kimberley....perfect one day and more perfect the next!!!
wadetolley
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Does
Does it come with a Squid gaff?
HuggyB
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I like it
but I still dont get the point of a "walk-around" if you have to be an anorexic 10 year old child to be able to walk-around it?
I assume the cab is hinged, which is a brilliant idea - I like that for towing long distances. Also love the turbo diesel set-up with good tank / range and the the fact that it doesn't protrude into the cockpit very much - nothing worse than a massive great big engine box in the middle of your deck taking up fishing room.
I'm guessing you'd be looking at $100k+ for that?
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teddy
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walk around
i have a haines hunter walk around( and i'm a little on the big side) and can tell you that when your hooked up to good fish you can run around the boat like 10 year old boy
all the gear no idea
Faulkner Family
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we will take it
for a 12mth trial and let you know what we think
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wombat78
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awesome fishing rig looks
awesome fishing rig looks like alot of thought & time has gone into the setup nice job
Dreamweaver
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OOOOOOOO! I want one! Andrew???
Andrew? Any chance of posting a few close up pics of the bridge bulkhead/dash layout and storage behind please mate?
Soon to be de "dreamweaver" ed!
Adam Gallash
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Awesome
Magic looking rig, definately customised for the serious fisho. Looks great with the fishwrecked sticker too, must have bumped up the price a little too.
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Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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sweeet!
A well laid out boat for sure and nice lines!
FW sticker.....finishing touch
Andy Mac
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Hopefully a Reeltime Mag full report coming soon
Just got to convince Andrew he needs to get his Abrolhos Deckie onboard again for the sea trials.
As long as he doesn't expect me to catch his rod and reel for him again.
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kane
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I like it
I like it alot!
Gooooone Fishin!
Paul G
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Very nice rig will stop in
Very nice rig will stop in and have a look ,sorry won't be bringing the check book this time . Looks like the perfect fishing machine ,well done commodore marine.
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Nauti Buoy
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License
Nice Tub boys
Does it come with a lifetime Westcoast fishing license???
Saw a Commodore Abrolhos 8000 the other week with a 300 yammie on the back- parked at Dongara- very nice boat- if only i could have grabbed the Lotto the other week. If i had i would have bought wadetolley a squid gaff
solly
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Karratha
Hey Andrew are you going to bring the boat up for the festival?I know the rest of Australia is in resession but its hard to know it up here.Reckon you would sell at least one like last year.There are few looking to upgrade still and the weathers still not too bad.
cheers
solly
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allrounder
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karratha
Andrew if you would like you could launch the boat down here and i could drive it up to karratha.That way you would only need to tow up a trailer .Just think of the fuel you would save.I would be happy to help you out .lol
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Colin Hay
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Wow That's very nice
I just have to sell my house an I am in. Don't know how I will explain that to the missus though (Lol).
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call it the home away from
call it the home away from home colin
Colin Hay
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Lol Good idea Matt
I will need one if I tell my wife that I want to sell the house to buy a boat.
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HuggyB
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Wow
If the figure in the magazine was right ($175k), then my enthusiasm for this unit has waned somewhat. Its nice and all, but thats a pretty high price tag IMO given the "stock standard" Abrohlos 8000 comes in at near enough $100k.
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Baron Custom
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Nice rig... But 175K
Grady white price... Cum On
NEVER TRUST ANY GOVERNMENT
solly
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just had a look
Well this is the boat I would buy if I had only mates and no wife and kids.TO the fellas at Commodore hats off apart from the really bad bait board the boat is a absolute bloody ripper.Its going to sell, I think real soon!
solly
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Commodore Marine
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Pricing
A couple of points to clarify in regards to pricing.
There is a version of the Abrolhos, not the stock standard that won WA Boat of the Year for 2008, but a version called the Abrolhos Sprinta that is available for just under $110k.
When you then apply the differences such as motors, construction and options, we can certainly justify the pricing.
As we have always done we are trying to keep the pricing competitive and factory direct, hence why no dealers, but value and perception is in the hands of the holders.
The Abrolhos Sprinta represents great value for the price and allows a big boat to be owned without a reduction of quality.
The bait board on the Rat is not so much a bait board as a working area, if you want a standard style bait board then it can be added, but if we put everything on the boat then the price would become ridiculous and half the stuff wouldn't be used.
In the first 2 sea trials we have been very satisfied with performance, with a top speed of 36 knots, but more importantly, cruising at 25 knots, she was only burning 22/23 litres an hour with 6 guys on board. The Yanmar 260hp deisel has great thrust puts the boat on plane very easily.
Thanks for your comments and yes it has recieved a lot of good interest locally, but also from over east as is very well suited for the trailer based game fishers.
Regards
Andrew
Andrew Welch
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solly
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How about some water shots Andrew
The guys up here would like to see how she floats?I can understand about the options thing Andrew but this is your showboat and I believe that the average mug(and Im one of them) wants to see the good stuff,yes it can be optioned later but you have to impress both parties at that price(husband and wife)and she can be interested in different things other than how it floats ,fisherbilty and that it has a great donk (they do wear the jewllerly for a reason you know)for the fellas who havent seen it there are alot of excellent ideas on the boat such as the bleed tank and viewing ports to see underneath the hull situated in the kill tanks.The fact that its a concept/project boat is fantastic as we all want manufactures to listen to there customers but rarely do they do so.My mate has the Abollos and is the happiest boat owner I know. Again well done Commodore Im sure it will be a great success please keep listening to your customers
solly
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The Rat underway
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Andrew Welch
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wouldnt waste my money 110 k
wouldnt waste my money 110 k pfft
living is fishing
allrounder
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find me a new
8 meter plus rig with motor and trailer for under 110000 k
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
allrounder
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still waiting for someone
to come up with an 8 meter boat on a trailer for under what you can buy a commodore for.The rat is up around 180000 but with that in mind it also has a diesel in it that will cruise at mid 20s and top out in the mid 30s i would prob go for the twin 150 honda option the diff in price is alot of petrol in the tank .What type of speed an range do the abrols get with twin 150 hondas ?
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
HuggyB
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Hooker Profisherman 8m
all up ~$100k
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allrounder
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centre console
would need a cab the rat could sleep 5 at a pinch if not 3 and a sh@t load of gear.The walkaround cab like the rat is up in the same ballpark. The other one i like is the 8 meter prowler but again not as much room as the rat so yet to find a better price for amount of boat than this.Nice boat all the same huggyb but you have been on makos so you will know it is hard to beat in the value for money stakes and i think the rat is in that category as well.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
HuggyB
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I'm not disputing they are nice
Personally I think the Rat is too expensive for what you get. But maybe thats just me. There are other boats I'd spend $180k on before that one.
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allrounder
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i probably would not
go the diesel that would bring it down alot.$180000 grand opens up a fair few boats.The thing for me is it would need to be a trailer boat as $6000 plus dollars a year for a pen plus lifting plus the fact i cant just take it to exxy or karratha at the drop of a hat is the real decider for me.The sprinta with twin outboards is still good value imo.Matt i am still chasing photos with a couple of people on the back if i cant find one we will just need to take the two allrounders out for a test drive and compare.Of course we wont take any rods with us purely a testing exersice
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
mako magic
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np thanks mate keep me
np thanks mate keep me posted
Paul G
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pttf
I think the rat is in a fair price range for its size, ,but i think for what you get shes up there ,how many other boats come with the things the rat has,I don't know of many,this boat is not for every one only the die hard fisho,I would be intrested if i had the money..Its a boys toy,if i was taking the wife and kids fishing or to rotto then i guess i would be looking at somethig a little different..But for the fisherman shes a good one.
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kane
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I think your right, awesome boat...
Just not many people who could justify sepnding 180k on a fishing boat...well im sure there are plenty of people who could justify it....but not yor average joe thats for sure.
could buy a pretty nice ex cray boat for about that...the weather would never stop you fishing if youre in one of them :)
Gooooone Fishin!
Paul G
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True but then you need a pen
True but then you need a pen and beleave me the maintance is a pain for the old ex crays boats,never ends.
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Shorty
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Nice mothership for kayak
Nice mothership for kayak fishing,,just need a job in the mines and she is all mine,lol
allrounder
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i think i would
go the twin outboard option.That way when i do my north stuff i can get the whole leg out of the drink.It would suit my fishing better the rat with twin 150 hondas may well be in the driveway in a couple of years time when the troops get a bit bigger.The allrounder is going north next year for a long trip and i cant wait.Off to exxy to get the bro in law a billfish.We will launch from the marina and will not see the trailer again for a week.Go to the murions then peak across to long island then mackie island out to airlie and a couple of special gt spots then work our way back.Yea baby im excited all ready the allrounder is a great boat for the trip but the rat would be better.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
aquagenes
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Sounds like you are the next
Sounds like you are the next buyer for the RAT!
Paul G
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Sounds like a plan .we could
Sounds like a plan .we could be doing a one week dive trip next year ,as a freind goes up every year .diving around murions,peak ,long ,thay stay on one of the islands,and come back to exy to pic up and drop of the torists,and backpackers .sounds like a great holiday to me ..
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Commodore Marine
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Twin outboards
Twin Honda 150' would see the boat come down to around $165k and range would be around 500 kms or 270 nautical miles.
The diesel adds a fair bit to the boat price but you do get a huge benefit in range.
At the mandurach Boat show we will also have a new Abrolhos Center Console that will be priced from $103,000 with a 225 Honda.
It will be a great boat when you see the deck area, and also storage.
As always motor selection is up to the client.
Thanks heaps for all the feedback.
Andrew Welch
Commodore Marine
aquagenes
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Performance first price
Performance first price last.
If shes a good boat in the sea then the price doesnt matter much.
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Be plenty of good fishing
Be plenty of good fishing space on a 8m CC. Might have to buy another lotto ticket =)
HuggyB
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Any updates?
Was interested to see what came about regarding the other 2 models that you alluded to Andrew?
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ody
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Hi Ya, "...sleeping for
Hi Ya,
"...sleeping for 3, 2 in floor kill tanks..."
How comfortable will it be sleeping in kill tanks?
Cheers.