Salmon/tailor combo advive
Submitted by Ethan A on Tue, 2017-08-08 12:52
Hi guys
I am going to purchase a 9 foot veritas 6-8kg and 6000 sedona and l would mainly be targeting salmon and tailor and l was wondering if anyyone has had any experience with this rod and reel?
Thanks
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kknlk
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I note in your profile you
I note in your profile you have a boat so is this rod boat or landbased or both? 9ft is a little long for boat. In any case, salmon and tailor are not particularly taxing fish so almost anything will do. Assuming this combo is for landbased, the crucial point imo is the total casting weight. In one of my favourite spots the tailor are way out there and for my small frame I need a 10ft not 9ft. Furthermore, I use about 40 gram metals for distance so require a rod that can comfortably achieve that and does not feel like it's going to break. If you are baitcasting a mulie weighs around 40gm but if you attach a sinker then the total may even be over 100gm. How does the rod feel with this kind of weight?Thing is a lot of rods do specify their low to high casting weight but if what you are going to regularly use is at the higher end of the rod, for me that wont be comfortable. How I judge what the casting sweet weight will be is to take the difference in the specs, divide number by 2 and add back to low number. Eg, if casting weight is 30 - 80 gram, then the difference is 50, divide by 2 equals 25 and add to 30 gives 55 gram.
Ethan A
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Landbased
l would use from shore it's way to long for a boat
Jimbob01
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4000-5000 reel + 7-15kg rod perfect
Get a daiwa bg 4000-5000 spool it with 30lb-40lb braid and put that on a Daiwa Lateo 110MH n you'll be laughin mate!
Might be a lil pricey but is a beautiful lightweight strong combo that can be used for the bigger fish too, saving you some mulla on having to buy another combo
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Dale
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Why so heavy if your chasing tailor an salmon? 10kg line would be well sufficient. No need to go overkill bill on it.
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Jimbob01
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Not really i use it for snapper n mulloway aswell
Its not that heavy casts a stickbait like a bullet getting 80m with very little effort and is strong enough to fish in the surf or off the rocks for the bigger species like snapper mulloway small kings small sharks ect
And i dont see how it can be overkill if u fight the fish with the right drag, Salmon have softer mouths than tailor so less drag is required so hooks dont pull as tailor have harder bony mouths so more drag is required to keep the hooks in.
It all comes down to how you play the fish :)
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Hutch
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No idea what you're on about.
No idea what you're on about. If you're fishing lighter drag why not use appropriate line? Anything heavier IS overkill if you're not utilising it fully? Think he's asking about a combo specifically for the above mentioned tailor and salmon not all those other stuff in the surf.
In response to the OP's question: I haven't used that combo personally but had the older model Sedona 5kFE for my main tailor and salmon outfit running 20lb braid which i later changed to 10lb and it was great for what I paid for it other than the slow ratio. New models have a higher ratio if I'm not mistaken so should be better suited. IMO if used only for tailor or salmon on lures downscale to the 5000 model and 10-20lb braid, will be more enjoyable to use.
Jimbob01
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Not all those other stuff in the surf hahaha wah wah
What are you on about?
Anyone would know that salmon and tailor are surf species so obviously you can target them in the surf meaning there will be other surf species present snapper mulloway sambos rays sharks ect
So obviously you are gonna encounter a few of em while targeting tailor n salmon and i dont see how a 4000 reel spooled with 30lb is overkill on a tailor or salmon.
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Hutch
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Yeah no worries let me go
Yeah no worries let me go chuck a GT ice cream for black rays in the surf
Jimbob01
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Ah true
I mean you could try if ya want but ur success rate aint gonna be up there
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Travis p
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ns black hole magic eye torue 7'6 pe 2
with a certate 3000 and pe 2 tasline is my allround land based metro combo and its a fkn winner i can tell you that much owned it for around 2 years now and still use it at least once a week and never had a problem with it
wont catch em sitting at home!
br3nno
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Hey mate, Not sure how much
Hey mate,
Not sure how much Sedona's are but I suggest getting a "Pflueger President Spinning Reel" - size 40 box.
Theyre on amazon.com (not .au) and are about $80-90 shipped. Dubbed the best value reel of 2017.
www.amazon.com/dp/B0031YU2R8/ref=twister_B071X36WTS
Then Id get 20lb mono or braid (Also sold on amazon, find ones that ship to oz though). But I suggest mono, its better in the surf. With all that said Sedonas have had some good reviews, people like them.
BC
Ethan A
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Why do
why do you find mono better in the surf?
beachsoul
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Bloody hell Ethan
You are getting some varied advice on here mate..........
I fish for Tailor and Salmon a lot. Mostly BIG Tailor off of the beach where their are a few rock ledges, not cliffs.
I use a 4000 size Shimano ( model ? ) with 20lb braid and a 10 foot rod ( I think it's a Paul Worsling special or Steve Starling something ) I use this outfit to chuck lures mostly but occasionally unweighted Mulies. If you want to fish weighted baits then you are going to need a heavier outfit and possibilly sacrifice some of your lure casting ability. Personally for my fishing styles I would go a second rod for fishing weights because your arms will be buggered if you cast lures all day with a rod that is great for belting heavy weights a long distance.
I would recommend that you go to a decent tackle shop tell them what you are going to use it for, your budget and go for it.
Good Luck
Steve
Jimbob01
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Lateo is great for that
The Daiwa Lateo 110MH is great for that can peg out decent sized stickbaits and other lures but is also strong enough to throw out weighted baits. The rod is set from 20-60g but can handle a 80g sinker+ bait nicely .
I got this rod for salmon and tailor at first to. But then relised that it can be used for much stronger fish while being light enough for the smaller species
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Travis p
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if its
purely for beach fishing then go a penn prevail 10ft plus but most my tailor and salmon on lures in perth metro have all been off rockwalls jettys etc where you only need a light 7'6 rod it depends where you will be fishing mainly beach you will need a longer rod with a heavier rating for sinkers etc off the rocks you need a light 4-6kg rated rod with a 3000 daiwa or 4000 shimano sized reel
wont catch em sitting at home!