Some help on mackie lures
Submitted by Just1morecast on Mon, 2012-01-30 12:16
So I've had my jet ski for a little over a month now and I think its time to tackle some spaniards. I'm planning to take a drive a bit further north maybe lancelin or Jurien to try help my chances since I have no sounder as yet. I'm still contemplating whether to run one or two rods but what lures would you guys recommend I buy?
Any help would be good since I'm new to trolling (only caught some tuna when I had my boat).
Thanks
Sha
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Bones76
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Rapala X Raps are my mackie
Rapala X Raps are my mackie lure of choice
hlokk
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Thumbs up for the xraps! They
Thumbs up for the xraps! They stand up to the abuse, last longer, and frequently catch mackies. On charters at the abrolhos, my lures (xraps in the right colours ;) ) seemed to catch more than double other peoples at times (but sometimes they're on and smash everything).
Halcos and others still catch em (I like some of the halcos for shallow) but dont run as well at speed.
Tim
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Max
Halco Max works well at speed and catches fish ;)
flangies
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Xraps Arent that tough. I
Xraps are not that tough. I have got three on my desk that have been destroyed after one fish. They won't last half as long as a hydro magnum or koolie
hlokk
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Granted, I have had two
Granted, I have had two destroyed (the tail wire broke out) but still last longer and swim better than the halcos where you almost have to retune them after every fish. Have used the magnums but dont like them as much and too big (unless theres smaller sizes now?)
uncle
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you must have got a cheap batch
I've caught marlin,sails and a 100 cod,no damage
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Ryan C
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xraps and classic bluewater f18's
these seem to be the best ive used for metro spaniards, last year i caught 8 out of a total of 13 for the day on a classic bluewater f18 in gold 120mm size and the redheaded xrap 20 did well too, halco scorpion and laser pros in deep and xxdeep work well also but for light gear the classic f18 in 120mm is the go for me . cheers
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Righteo
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lure question seems to be
lure question seems to be answered, dont know if anyone is using yozuri's im about to order and try some at $12 each why not, as for 2 rods i probably wouldnt, may increase your chances but when you get a double hookup (not if... when) you'll probably wish you had the one rod out. maybe tow a teaser on a heavy handline close to ya ski, easy to get in and out the way instead of the second rod.
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Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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Macky Info!
Rapala X-Rap 30 in Blue pilchard and green mackerel is a must lure for me!
Last season I caught more Metro Mackerel on the Halco 190XDD. They do need to be tuned out of the box sometimes and also after a macky hit. Doing that they will swim straight at speed but they work so well I'll always use them. Colour preference is pilchard, green/gold and redneck!
Two rods would be better if ya can!
All the best!
quadfisher
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cheap sounder.
If it was me id move heaven and earth to get a sounder and gps combo mate.
macks mostly like to follow contour lines , to ambush the bait and fish that move around these areas with the tides.
15 years ago , we were catching macks quite regularly at 2 rocks , with no gps , and a lcd , amazingly low pixel count sounder.
hit 20 or so metres move in slightly , hit 13 metres move out.
On certain years bait schools are the key, cheap sounder again will be the only tool u need.
lures, when you find a school on the chew, that you have teased up with your flashers/doctor, maybe are less
important than you may think.
In the metro area we have taken them on halco 190, 160 shallow, halco super deep 160, colours chrome pink,mulie, purple, redhead.
xraps , green , blue. yo-suri, deep divers 180-200mm and even trolled gardies and ballyhoos ( plastic gardies) and a personal
favorite the old bibless lures like the mal florence casta blastas and master blastas in the fluro green ( sounds like mad maxs lures eh?)
with these we had the most auresome hookups at anything up to 12 knots, which we tryed if 6 knots and the halcos didnt work.
good luck.
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lurcha
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Halco chrome pink or mackie
Halco chrome pink or mackie mauler in the green/yellow/red
Just1morecast
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Cheers guys thats heaps of
Cheers guys thats heaps of info for lures :) I am looking at a sounder just in the meantime whilst im saving i thought its worth a shot since they seem to be more profilic at the moment. past 2 weeks ive actually seen them free jumping out of two rocks in the 40m depths hence why i figured if i travelled a little more north id be in with a better shot despite no sounder.
I do have another question however. I only have braid on my rods, i know i need to run wire but would you guys use braid/mono/wire or just braid straight to wire? And trolling speeds of 10-20kmh? (ski has either km/h or miles?)
Pretty excited to try, i have my gopro mount to hopefully get some action too
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Oceanside Tackle
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answer -
Double your braid, attach to Richter wind on leader (100lb) then to single strand wire (124lb) with Richter clip at end then attach your lure.
Speed wise 13-15km equals about 7-8knots (there abouts).
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till
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1 knot = 1 nautical mile per
1 knot = 1 nautical mile per hour
1 nautical mile = 1800m
1 regular mile = 1600m
You might want to use a lighter or long topshot because braid has no give, and neither does a 100lb mono at those loads.
Just1morecast
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great thanks for the info
great thanks for the info
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Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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Braid Trolling!
As for adding a longer leader to get some stretch we'll you'll get bugger all so not required!
Just back off the drag a bit with braid as that compensates for a macky fast strike!
beau
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I gave it a go last year on
I gave it a go last year on the three mile Sha, its bloody hard work, especially when they forecast 5knt easterlies and it howls at least 15knts the whole time you're out there, we got hammered. We only saw one get landed and the boat was only 30m away from us when they hooked up so we were pretty close! Our biggest problem was our gear was too light and the rod wasnt heavy enough to absorb the strain from the rapala magnums. I've got some promising ground in 13m closer to home this year with bait schools already on it and we spotted a mackie ploughing through them just last week. Plan of attack will be more live baiting under a balloon than trolling this season so hopefully it works, will let you know how it goes
scotto
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Braid not bad for trolling,
You can see the rod tip pulsating more with braid. Good for seeing if there's weed on your lure.
Subaquatic
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Im still rockin the Rap
Im still rockin the Rap cd18's for macks most of the time and master blasters for high speed work....call me old fashioned, but they still work
grayzeee
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i had a cd18 once. brand new
i had a cd18 once. brand new out the box, to utterly destroyed, in one hit , by a salmon off west end.
wasn't very impressed. how long do they last in the jaws of a mack?
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
Subaquatic
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Yeah, macks do destroy
Yeah, macks do destroy em........But for some freaky reason, I love destroyed lures hanging on the trophy wall ;-)
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PM
Send a pm to glastronomic, he's been slaying them.
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Better luck next time, Champ!
Better luck next time, Champ!
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Well
You have been according to you. What lures are working best for you?
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Scotte
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guys quick question. how do
guys quick question. how do you tune the halcos back to true?
barneyboy
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Have had original Rapala CD magnums
that had caught upwards of 50 macks and still going before loosing em for different reasons. In the end one of em looked like a tooth pick with hooks and with a bit of tuning still swam and still caught fish
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Righteo
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simple question turned into a
simple question turned into a debate for champions, you tune halco's by tweeking the towing eye, if it swims left tweek it right... bblah... correct me if im wrong.... as for braid/shock leaders... had 3 good experiences using a long wind on/shock leader to improved albright... after having a mate lose his strike/fish and one of my prized chrome red head crazy deep halco due to an over excited almost pulled over board experience im going back to 6 ft mono shock/30cm wire. if u want an upto date response, tuna hooked in lasdt 5 days, xrap 20 blue sardine, halco pink chrome 120 1m, halco 190 crazy deep chrome/red head, think they where special editions, and i fkn hate losing em only about 8 left now.
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barneyboy
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not one to start a fight righteo
but the initial ask was for some help with mac lures. and blokes have given there opinion on deserved lures, until it got hijacked on rigging and tuning. but thanks for the tips on rigging and tuning!!
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Righteo
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fights are for people
fights are for people throwing punches, public forums are for informative/constructive comments on the current topic, this one being what lure to use and how many rods to tow from a ski if i read it correctly. have i missed something?
edit
pretty sure macs and tuna eating the same shyt atm
waters hot
pic your spot
good luck
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Scotte
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righteo cheers
righteo cheers
barneyboy
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good luck with ya debate or whatever it is
see ya
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Righteo
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not one to debate about
not one to debate about hijacking a fight
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barneyboy
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yep thanks mate
explains alot!!
reidys "big boss" and reidys "the judge" are a couple of others worth a mention
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randall df223
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if you are going to run two
if you are going to run two rods off a jet ski (will there be two people on board?) I would run one deep diving lure 7.5 metres and a mid depth or shallow lure 1 - 2.5 metres, to avoid tangles. the reason i ask how many on the ski - who will retrieve the second line when you get a strike? and who's going to hold the fish while head back to shore! That I'd like to see! Sharp mackie teeth snapping at you toes! lol
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Just1morecast
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Sometimes I'll have another
Sometimes I'll have another on board and other times may be solo. Still contemplating 2 rods when I'm on my own but shouldn't be too bad since its a big ski. I guess I'd have to neck it straight away and head home. Would be a battle and a laugh if its a biggy though haha.
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Paul_86
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Get yourself one of those
Get yourself one of those wooden bats mate and once you have it gaffed or on the back of your ski give it a couple solid knocks on the top of its head, then u can safely take out hooks, dispatch and store it for the trip in.
beau
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You can buy those big catch
You can buy those big catch bags, but I would probably just chuck a rope around the tail, rest it in the foot groove, keeping the head at the rear end of the ski lol, and the other end of the rope around the steering column.
Just1morecast
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Haha exactly what I was
Haha exactly what I was thinking beau. Paul the wooden bat trick may be the go I'd say so too.
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HALCO in gold with red head
HALCO in gold with red head alllll the wayyy
Pilbra Dave
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Rapala X-Rap Red Hed
I have a large collection of X-Rap's and fish for Mackies all the time, I always run a Witch Doctor Teaser with two rods on my own, One X-Rap 20 just behind the Prop Wash and teaser and another 20 meters further back. If you stop as soon as you get a hit then most of the time you won't end up with a double hook up but if you continue to troll for another 20 - 30 seconds then chances are you will. I have had plenty of Deckies swear by different lures but none of them match the X-Raps. As far as how tuff are they I spent a day at Trail Rocks of the Montebello Islands using the same X-Rap 20 Red head and landed 20 + fish and the lure still catches fish, While my old man went through almost every lure in his box for 1/3 of the fish. In the end my arms were to sore to pull in any more fish so I let Dad use it and he hooked up 4 times in 20 minutes.
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Pilbra Dave
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Rapala X-Rap Red Hed
I have a large collection of X-Rap's and fish for Mackies all the time, I always run a Witch Doctor Teaser with two rods on my own, One X-Rap 20 just behind the Prop Wash and teaser and another 20 meters further back. If you stop as soon as you get a hit then most of the time you won't end up with a double hook up but if you continue to troll for another 20 - 30 seconds then chances are you will. I have had plenty of Deckies swear by different lures but none of them match the X-Raps. As far as how tuff are they I spent a day at Trail Rocks of the Montebello Islands using the same X-Rap 20 Red head and landed 20 + fish and the lure still catches fish, While my old man went through almost every lure in his box for 1/3 of the fish. In the end my arms were to sore to pull in any more fish so I let Dad use it and he hooked up 4 times in 20 minutes.
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