Swivels

Hi All, new to jigging, been having some fun with YTK here at Sth West Rocks,nsw. Do most ppl tie a bb swivel to the leader then attach it to the split ring? Isnt that a PIA to change jigs everytime? Ive been just tying a Uni knot to the split ring, is that ok? I know sampo clips arent good as we had a 150lb clip staighten out on a fish.  What is a good 80lb jigging braid?
Cheers, 
Mark.


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Hi MarkCheck out the Richter

Wed, 2009-05-27 20:38

Hi Mark

Check out the Richter range of Snap swivels they come in  a range of sizes and will make changing jigs a lot easier. They are heavy duty and wont straighten unlike the other ones. The Team Daiwa SW or tournament is good is what I have used/using. Jigman and yamato is are also popular choices. 

HTH

Ben  

 

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Really bad idea to tie knots

Wed, 2009-05-27 21:48

Really bad idea to tie knots to split rings, the edges of the line will make it into the ends of the wire and chew out, just a matter of time.

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Thanks for the replys. So

Thu, 2009-05-28 16:00

Thanks for the replys.

So do most jiggers use quality snap swivels say 200lb+?

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I'm not a hardcore jigger,

Thu, 2009-05-28 17:49

I'm not a hardcore jigger, so yes. Other people tie off to a swivel and link that to a split ring for changing rigs and other poeople do other things again =)

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Hi Mark, You don't need to

Thu, 2009-05-28 18:07

Hi Mark,
You don't need to use a ball bearing swivel - just a good quality crane swivel is fine.

Snap swivels seem to have the annoying habit of opening up on you just when you hook the big one. Tying your leader to a crane swivel which you then attach to a jig via a split ring is far superior. This eliminates line twist, and as Till mentioned, will also take away the effect of the split ring chewing onto your leader.

With a good pair of split-ring pliers changing jigs is even easier than trying to wrestle a 200-lb snap swivel open with your teeth (and after all that it will still open on you!)

Good luck with the kingies, they are great fun.

A good but cheap jigging braid that I can highly recommend is Tuf line.

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I would love to hear other

Sat, 2009-05-30 12:49

I would love to hear other ppls techniques and theories for rigging their jigs.

Cheers,

Mark.

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I normally use a good

Thu, 2009-06-04 11:15

I normally use a good quality Owner or Shogun crane swivel. This then goes onto a split ring attached to the jig. The two assist hooks also run off the split ring via solid rings at the end of each assist hook. Hope that makes sense.

Never use snap swivels, as kasey said even the strongest ones could bend open.

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I use

Mon, 2009-07-20 08:00

I tie my leader to a quality crane or bb swivel.

The bottom eye on the swivel I attach a quality Owner split ring.

To the split ring I attach my jig and also my assist hook which I have stacks of them pre made in different lengths and with different coloured skirts and different hook sizes.

My assist rigs I use with quality Owner solid rings looped at the end which are quick and easy to fit and remove from the split ring.

While on the move from spot to spot its nice and easy just to remove the jig from the split ring just leaving the swivel and assist rig which you can place around the palm grip on your reel seat if you have one and then takes away the risk of a jig swinging around which may hit your rod blank and damage it.

I use to use solid rings in place of the swivels (on overhead setups) but found that your leader knot to the solid ring can become chaffed by the edge of the split ring and the knot can and does break which results in lost fish and jigs. There is a way around it which is using some type of protective sleeve around the knot or using a thimble but its a bit of a pain the the butt so I ditched them for swivels and haven't looked back.

If you don't get any of the above I can post a picture later of my riggings if it would make it easier to understand?

 

cheers,

Josh 

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pics

Sat, 2009-07-25 19:54

Thanks all,

a few pics would be great AP.

 

Cheers.

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No worries

Sat, 2009-08-01 09:13

Will take some pics this weekend and post up for ya Mark.

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Rigging With Swivels

Mon, 2009-08-03 14:59

Hi Mark,

Here are a few pics of how I rig up using swivels.

Firstly I store assist rigs pre made with solid rings attached

and I also carry a few swivels with split rings attached...

and here is a pic of it all connected...

 

So all you do is tie on a swivel which has the split ring already attached then select an assist rig to suit the length of your jig and prefered hook size and attach it to the split ring as it already has a solid ring attached. Then all you need is to attach whatever jig you want. Easy and has never ever failed me.

cheers,

Josh

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assist hook - YGK?

Wed, 2009-09-02 09:56

Hi Accident Prone,

Really like the look of your jig setups and they way it is all pre-made ready for a trip out. I have been getting into the jigging off Sydney last couple of months and working out my system at the moment. Looks like you are using Kevlar to rig your assist hooks - where do you get it from? I have been scanning the net but cant find it. Local tackle stores here done have it and try to get you into 150 pound dacron rolls. Probably ok but like the kevlar better.

Also, whats the best way to buy up bulk split/solid owner rings? Adds up when you buy little packs of 4 or 5.

Appreciate your help mate and hope you get into a few monster Kingies in NZ! Cant wait to head down that way for a fishing trip.

Cheers
AndyLoops

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Looks like Varivas assist

Wed, 2009-09-02 15:55

Looks like Varivas assist line. Red and non-hollow. The YGK stuff is brown/tan and has a hollow kevlar/dyneema braid over a solid braided core (i forget the core material). I think you can order it from bluewater online. Perhaps a local tackleworld might have it? Dacron isnt all that abrasion resistant, so best to get the proper stuff if you can.

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Kevlar Cord

Thu, 2009-09-03 10:04

Gidday mate,

The Kevlar cord which i normally use and is the same stuff in the pics is Jigstar Kevlar (non hollow) and is great stuff!

Its available in just about any store in NZ, otherwise you can order it online from here www.jigsdirect.com which is an NZ company but ships Internationally.

Unfortunately I haven't found Owner solid rings in bulk packs here in NZ so I just buy the smaller packs.

Cheers,

Josh

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squidlies on the assists

Wed, 2009-09-02 09:59

One more thing mate if you dont mind - have you found the squid on the assist hooks increase strike rate? Are they there to camo the hardware or to entice a strike / other?

From the size of the hooks I can see you are going for bigger kings than we get here (much bigger!) but interested nonetheless.

Cheers
AndyLoops

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Skirts

Thu, 2009-09-03 10:08

The skirts don't make any difference whatsoever to hookup rates with kingfish from what I have found.

Targetting deep water species such as hapuka/bass/bluenose they do make a difference especially if they are lumo. With tagetting fish that are "Suction feeders"where they engulf a large amount of water when eating a meal, I have found that the skirts do give a better hookup rate as i think it may be to do with the flow of water dragging the hook into their mouth as they go to eat the jig.

I only use them for kingfish because they look cool Laughing

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nice one thanks guys

Thu, 2009-09-03 15:15

that gives me a bit of food for thought!

You guys are really all over this - what brand of hooks are you using? Just out of interest??

cheers!
Andy

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Hooks

Sat, 2009-09-05 09:08

I use Gamakatsu Tuned size 35, Owner SJ-41s 11/0, and Jigging Master 13/0

Cheers,
Josh

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legend mate thanks for all the info - very helpful!

Sat, 2009-09-05 11:30

weather looking good to get out tomorrow - fathers day jigging sesh on the cards.

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Gaah I wish, I have lunch

Sat, 2009-09-05 11:40

Gaah I wish, I have lunch instead =(

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