Tips and suggestions?

 Hey lads

afyer my trip to Albany for salmon I have decided to upgrade my stradic to a stella and my beach combo to a fin nor offshore 95 and I have a few questions. 

Firstly I am undecided between a stella 4000sw or 5000sw or the new 4000fi and what rod to pair it up with. I used a 5000 with a FWA 9' and it wasn't very balanced. I would be running 20 or 25lb and it will be Mostly lures upto 60 grams and wanna keep the rod price to not much more than $200

secondly I'll be running 65lb on the fin nor and I need a rod to pair that up with. Was looking at the prevail any other opinions? 

And lastly I'm looking for some spots SOR near Baldivis to get onto some black bream any opinions?

cheers lads


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Hey mateI would rule out the

Thu, 2014-04-17 15:34

Hey mate

I would rule out the 4000SW. It is around the same weight as the 5000 but holds less line. No reason to pick that one in my book.

If all you are using it for is casting 20-25lb braid (say PE1.5 to PE2) for fish no bigger than a Salmon, then I'd look at a 4000FI or even a smaller FI series.

5000sw is good because it has a high ratio, but the thing weighs so much more than the 4000FI and has a lot more capacity than you need (I have 270m of PE3 on my 5000 so you'd get way more PE1.5 or PE2).

Personally my pick would be the 4000FI. I'm actually waiting on one myself.

Dan

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cheers!

Thu, 2014-04-17 16:42

 good points made! the 4000fi was my first choice within those mentioned but no coming to think of it everyone i was with all had saltigas and the 4000h is also an option even though it is a bit larger it does leave more room for fighting bigger fish. But so far its definately the FI 

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By the way don't interpret

Thu, 2014-04-17 15:35

By the way don't interpret that post as meaning that the 4000FI is no good for fish bigger than a salmon, it definitely is!

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A different perspective

Thu, 2014-04-17 18:27

I'm for the Stella 4000sw:  There is 81g difference between my fully spooled 4000swxg (363g) and 5000sw (424g).  The 5000 somehow "feels" a lot bigger than the weight difference would suggest.

The 4000swxg is a perfect balance match to my two 9ft rods (45g and 65g lure weight rating respectively) and the 5000sw to my 10ft rod.  For casting placcies and metal slices the 4000swxg/9ft combo's are my favourite light surf combo's.  Additionally, the extra high gear ratio of the swxg makes high speed retrieving of metal slices really easy.

 

 

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Always good to hear another

Thu, 2014-04-17 21:12

Always good to hear another opinion. Part of the difference must be the line. The 4000 and 5000SW are only 55gr apart.

The 5000SW and the 4000FI are 170gr apart (the FI is only 265gr, meaning the 5000SW is 65% heavier than the 4000FI).

http://www.shimanofish.com.au/products/fishing-reels/spinning/stella-fi.html

How well it balances will be a factor of the rod used for sure though - but for me the only reason I didn't get a 4000SW is that it was not massive weight saving for less line capacity.

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He he- what a delicious

Thu, 2014-04-17 22:11

He he- what a delicious dilemma, having to choose between such fine reels!

PS: My math in the previous post was incorrect (never was any good at numbers). The difference in weight is 61g.

PPS: Dan, sounds like that 4000fi would make a handy companion on a Barra fishing trip....

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 Stella 5000SW also, 50g is a

Thu, 2014-04-17 22:12

 Stella 5000SW also, 50g is a little bit of weight and certainly noticable but worth it in my opinion for the line capacity. I have mine matched up to a 9'6" NS Black Hole which is silly light and super stiff, it was an awesome outfit to use off the stones in Dunns a couple of weeks back. The grunt in rod and reel simply bullied the salmon over reef and out of holes. I find the balance perfect - literally ideal but each to their own. As per Peter, I also got exactly 270m of PE3.

The saltigas are considerably bigger and well proven but I wouldnt doubt the 'robustness' of the stella, its a pretty strong cookie with a heap of power.

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 The saltiga 4000h and the

Fri, 2014-04-18 17:12

 The saltiga 4000h and the stella 5000sw are pretty much the same weight if I remember from feel alone. The main reason I'm thinking saltiga is because it is more water resistant than the Stella's and I tend to get wet often when I fish so it's more of a secure feeling with the more sealed saltiga. But still the fi seems the go! Rod wise I really don't wanna splash cash so I think another FWA 9 footer or a penn prevail will do although the ns black hole is definately a want! Also any opinions of a heavy surf rod for a fin nor 95 ofs? 

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 I'm pretty much in the same

Tue, 2014-04-22 17:47

 I'm pretty much in the same dilemma myself now.  Having to choose between the new Stella 4000fi or 4000swb.  Pairing it with Morethan 12-25lb 9ft rod that's insanely light.