what fish is it

what fish is it

hi Fellow fishers,

just wondering if anyone can finally put a name to this fish it has been widely debated .Caught in 70m of turtle bay /SHARK BAY/
4 weeks ago .

1. Rankin Cod

2. Bar Cod

it weighed about 11-12kg and was 900mm length .

will post story and a couple more pics soon.

____________________________________________________________________________

COLLINGWOOD ARMY...


Alan James's picture

Posts: 1980

Date Joined: 30/06/09

Eight bar grouper

Wed, 2015-06-10 09:08

or more commonly known as a greyband or greybanded cod here in Perth.

____________________________________________________________________________

      

Pedro the fisherman's picture

Posts: 124

Date Joined: 04/04/13

WHAT COD IS IT

Wed, 2015-06-10 09:16

HI ALAN

IM hoping it is to as never tasted one of them but in that shallow water im very confused.

____________________________________________________________________________

COLLINGWOOD ARMY...

JohnF's picture

Posts: 2760

Date Joined: 07/07/10

It looks just like a greyband

Wed, 2015-06-10 09:30

It looks just like a greyband except it does not have white tips on the fins.....all our greyband have these white tips....

It looks half way between a GB and a bass groper....don't think it is a bass groper though.

Not sure.....

____________________________________________________________________________

Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.

Bucko's picture

Posts: 113

Date Joined: 08/05/10

Yeh, strange one. No white

Wed, 2015-06-10 09:52

Yeh, strange one.

No white tips at all so I don't think its a greyband.

70m is very shallow too.

It does not really look like a Rankin either. I have seen them with no really white markings before, but that one has a light belly and the shape of the head is wrong.

??

Bucko's picture

Posts: 113

Date Joined: 08/05/10

Spot the greyband....

Wed, 2015-06-10 10:01

Spot the greyband....

petervb's picture

Posts: 439

Date Joined: 18/12/09

 2nd from top lhs

Wed, 2015-06-10 20:48

 2nd from top lhs

sea-kem's picture

Posts: 11794

Date Joined: 30/11/09

 Looks like a Rankin to me

Wed, 2015-06-10 10:03

 Looks like a Rankin to me

____________________________________________________________________________

Love the West!

Alan James's picture

Posts: 1980

Date Joined: 30/06/09

No white tips

Wed, 2015-06-10 10:03

I missed that when I first looked. And 70m as has been pointed out is shallow for greyband. I'm not sure now???
Might be one for our expert Glenn Moore.

____________________________________________________________________________

      

Pedro the fisherman's picture

Posts: 124

Date Joined: 04/04/13

RANKIN ......

Wed, 2015-06-10 10:46

Just checked out andy macs images front cover page that's a big rankin too simular head shape but colouring not the same .

____________________________________________________________________________

COLLINGWOOD ARMY...

Brucesta's picture

Posts: 1721

Date Joined: 29/05/09

I'm calling that a Rankin

Wed, 2015-06-10 10:46

I'm calling that a Rankin too, especially for the depth and it's size. Thats about as big as they get. We caught one in Exmouth that was pushing 850mm and we where confused as it didn't look like a Rankin as it didn't have the white spots/blotches but once it was spiked and on ice you could start to see the colour around the belly and face.

If you look at it's head there you can see a faint few blotches there and looking back at the many Rankin's i've caught all the fins look identcal

____________________________________________________________________________

Las Vegas - Rolling the dice and trying your luck. 1M+ Barra summer target. 100kg Black Marlin winter target

uncle's picture

Posts: 7946

Date Joined: 10/02/07

Don't think it's a rankin

Wed, 2015-06-10 11:43

 Don't know

____________________________________________________________________________

all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs

carnarvonite's picture

Posts: 7865

Date Joined: 24/07/07

Rankin

Wed, 2015-06-10 13:39

Rankin that has come up from the bottom too quickly. Seen them lose their normal colour and look the same as that when you spike them.

ALEXANG3's picture

Posts: 71

Date Joined: 09/01/11

Rankin and a good one at

Wed, 2015-06-10 15:19

Rankin and a good one at that!

jng's picture

Posts: 487

Date Joined: 03/08/07

 Looks like a rankin to me 

Wed, 2015-06-10 15:24

 Looks like a rankin to me 

Plug's picture

Posts: 326

Date Joined: 14/02/15

 ive seen some rankins with

Wed, 2015-06-10 16:49

 ive seen some rankins with hardly any blotches so that could just be one with out the bloches

____________________________________________________________________________

 i need cheaper hobbies

black gen's picture

Posts: 665

Date Joined: 13/04/11

 Definatley a rankin

Wed, 2015-06-10 18:19

 Definatley a rankin

its got that sharp pointy bit of the gill plate that faces the tail

bigger they get less blotchy they are

 

nice fish

Posts: 2303

Date Joined: 03/05/06

mystery

Wed, 2015-06-10 20:43

It has no white margins I know, but otherwise it sure looks like this greyband of Hlokk's.

Posts: 242

Date Joined: 08/10/13

Big rankin.

Thu, 2015-06-11 07:06

 Thats a big rankin about as big as they get. Spots fade with age. Just a question was it full of parisites like the ones we get in exmouth. Some of the really bigs ones that come through our park are riddled with all sorts of worms and parisites.

Adam Gallash's picture

Posts: 15106

Date Joined: 29/11/05

Hmm

Thu, 2015-06-11 07:56

I'm not convinced that is a rankin due to the eyes, will send to Glenn.

____________________________________________________________________________

Site Admin - Just ask if you need assistance

uncle's picture

Posts: 7946

Date Joined: 10/02/07

thumbs up

Thu, 2015-06-11 09:05

thumbs up

____________________________________________________________________________

all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs

mallesh's picture

Posts: 229

Date Joined: 18/11/10

Eye out

Thu, 2015-06-11 10:26

As carnarvonite mentioned it's come from the bottom too quick.

May be... I'M no expert.

My first thought was lost Grey Band in shallows, hahaha

____________________________________________________________________________

Keep Fishing. Stay Relaxed.

uncle's picture

Posts: 7946

Date Joined: 10/02/07

caught a blue eye trevalla

Thu, 2015-06-11 10:40

in 33 metres off rotto, so guess its possible

____________________________________________________________________________

all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs

Glenn Moore's picture

Posts: 216

Date Joined: 13/02/12

Rankin Cod

Thu, 2015-06-11 12:40

I'm going with Rankin Cod Epinephelus multinotatus.   There are some good pale blotches on the cheek.

Do you have a better photo of the tail - at least a photo that shows the whole tail?  

Look at Bucko's photo above and the tail is an easy character to use.  Rankin Cod has a crescent or 'lunate' tail (literally means 'moonlike').  Eightbar (Greyband) has a rounded tail.  Easy 

 

Cheers,

Glenn

____________________________________________________________________________

Glenn Moore

Curator of Fishes

Western Australian Museum

Blog Page

sea-kem's picture

Posts: 11794

Date Joined: 30/11/09

  Cheers Glenn, your input is

Thu, 2015-06-11 12:53

  Cheers Glenn, your input is always appreciated.

____________________________________________________________________________

Love the West!

Pedro the fisherman's picture

Posts: 124

Date Joined: 04/04/13

What cod is it

Thu, 2015-06-11 19:08

 WOW lots of opinions just like what's been happening with me and my mates .I will mention when caught was Iki jimi and put in an ice slurry upon taking out for cleaning it was very slimey and still had no coloring like the other rankings caught with it  .It did have some small parasites in the gut and wing areas like the other rankin though. Will load some more pics in the morning guys just for GLEN to check out .hlokks grey band does look different to mine . Could I have caught some sort of HYBRID rankin bar cod thing .? Might has to call sculls and mouldering from the 

        X FILES             ha ha ha 

____________________________________________________________________________

COLLINGWOOD ARMY...