What have I caught?
Submitted by Lucky Tim on Thu, 2011-06-30 18:26
Caught in 350m off Exmouth today, I've done some research and have come up with my best guess,
Promethichthys prometheus
Roudi escolar
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?ID=5008&genusname=Promethichthys&speciesname=prometheusAny other opinions?
Full report to follow, it was a good day.
Nealez
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Gemfish
Gemfish
Lucky Tim
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my first thought as well but
my first thought as well but I reckon it is too long and thin. It measured about 110cm
deepwater
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nice what else did you catch
nice what else did you catch mate???
jeff
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hehe
What else did he catch from the depths... well... :) You will enjoy the photo, he won't as it will bring back some bad memories...
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Lucky Tim
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150kg of f*@#%ng shark all
150kg of f*@#%ng shark all the way up from 350m.
lurcha
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I went through the same pain
I went through the same pain when I was up exxy in january! Thought I was onto a horse until about half way up it was still fighting! Bloody sharks, is there no escape?
adam87
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weird looking i have no clue,
weird looking i have no clue, some big teeth on it
did it fight hard?
Goatch
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Looks like a Gemfish to me
But I don't remember them being that dark , maybe just the depth you got him from , if it's a gem it's a bloody good one !!
Just one more cast , honest !!!
till
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Thats hell ugly, whatever it
Thats hell ugly, whatever it is.
Ryan C
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gemfish
i haven't caught one but all the ones i've seen caught on tv were much more solidly built than that and shorter!! but i have no idea what it might be looks sort of like a barracouta/hairtail hybrid! cheers
Tim
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Keep It?
Did you keep it? Do you know about the issues with eating Escolar?
Not sure if that one has the same issues but can be like Oilfish.
Lucky Tim
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We did keep it and heard the
We did keep it and heard the rumours and about regular toilet visits. After filleting one side we decided to donate it to the fish bin.
crasny1
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Man I dont know
But it looks a little like this, and this is a gemfish. It is the underslung jaw that has me beat.
Neels
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alfred
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That is scary! What went
That is scary! What went thru yor mind when you first saw it?
cudbfishn
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less dorsal spines too.
less dorsal spines too.
crasny1
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This one might be a
MOWA question. What the F@rk has "lucky Tim" caught?
Neels
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barneyboy
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looks to me like a
barracouta!! the cold water variety you get down south?
FEEEISH ONNN!!!
scotto
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yep,
i reckon gemfish also. big carnt at that too! well done tim!
Browny
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Gemfish for me also.Never
Gemfish for me also.
Never caught one, but from this reference has the same features:
http://www.sea-ex.com/fishphotos/gemfish.htm
underslung top jaw, dark blotch on first dausal fin (½ coverage only), and 3 fang like top teeth evident in the photo!
Sure is one ugly fish, but meant to be terrific to eat!
I just love Exmouth: Its a quaint little drinking town with a fishing problem!
Nealez
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did you notice if the lateral
did you notice if the lateral line arced down just after the pectoral fin or further back towards the anal fin?
Lucky Tim
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I just had a look at a better
I just had a look at a better quality photo and the lateral line arcs down underneath the 4th and 5th dorsal spine from the front then runs pretty much down the middle ofthe fish to the tail.
I still think it's too long and thin for a gemfish, plus it doesn't fit in to the distribution area
Alan James
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A bit out there but look at the eyes
in both of the pics on this post and the other the eyes look yellow. Perhaps a result of flash but the ruby's eyes are normal. I think this fish maybe blind and as a result is not in the best of condition. A poor conditioned gemfish?
Adam Gallash
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flash
Say it would be flash, it had those eerie deep water eyes that reflected everything. The fish appeared to be in great condition and was ripe, one big male ready to go.
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Alan James
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Look at the pic
with all the fish on the table. Jmo but I think there is something different about this fish's eyes compared to the others. If it was flash why aren't the other fishes eyes on the table the same. All three pics of this fish have the same distinct eye colouration which to me appears different. Why ???
Lucky Tim
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it's 100% flash Alan, here's
it's 100% flash Alan, here's a photo taken without the flash
It had an eye typical of a fish that lived and fed in the dark- designed to capture all the light available. When you caught the sun on it at different angles it showed some pretty cool colours and reflections.
Alan James
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OK, that dismisses that theory
Looks like Bod's onto it.
Goodz
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Looks Gemfishish to me but
Looks Gemfishish to me but I'm no expect.... alll I do know is that it's one crazy looking specimen! And mate, a great photo too!
spanishmackeral
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yeh, great now i got
yeh, great now i got nightmares
channy
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that thing is hell creepy!
that thing is hell creepy!
wombat78
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we used to call them lance
we used to call them lance fish on the tuna boat used to catch them all them all the time ugly snot fish.Used to yank them on the line there heads used to fall away from there bodies & if you pulled up the full fish they felt like jelly
bod
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Snake Mackerel - Gempylus serpens?
http://australianmuseum.net.au/Snake-Mackerel-Gempylus-serpens-Cuvier-1829
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File:Gempylus serpens head.jpgtill
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Could be onto something
Could be onto something there!
Lucky Tim
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I think Bod's got
I think Bod's got it
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSummary.php?ID=1041&genusname=Gempylus&speciesname=serpens
leesfishin
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thats one weird fish
thats one weird fish
saltydog
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still doesn't look exactly
still doesn't look exactly right
most of the snake mack's are VERY skinny and grow to max of 1m
this thing must have been on steroids big time
crasny1
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Bloody hell I give up
I think it has been visiting ground zero at the Montes to often!!!!
Neels
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Aaron C
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Black Snoek Thyrsitoides
Black Snoek Thyrsitoides marleyi
bod
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yep, more like it
http://www.fishbase.org/summary/speciessummary.php?id=7698
sea-kem
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Maybe you've set a new world
Maybe you've set a new world Snake Mackeral record Lucky Tim
Love the West!
crasny1
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Now we are getting there
I think thats the one Aaron C.
Neels
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MattMiller
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By the look
of the I.D. pics and the description I think Aaron C has solved this puzzle.
till
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Yeah, better fit for size
Yeah, better fit for size too.
crasny1
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Yeh
I think the wreckers have it sussed. Pretty ugly beast if you ask me again.
Neels
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saltydog
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BINGO!!!!!
BINGO!!!!!
CCC
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Not sure what it is but I'm
Not sure what it is but I'm sure it will give many people nightmares
CCC
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Just looking through my Sea
Just looking through my Sea Fishes book of Southern Australia The common name for this beast is Barracouta (Snoek) not Barracuda .Very closely related to the Gemfish. They swim in large schools in deep water. So Bod Is on the money.
Love the West!
keef
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barracouta
barracouta
limit your catch, dont catch your limit
kane473
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Yeahh Aaron's right
Yeahh Aaron's right