Yeah , I have never visited the area and who knows prob never will , but I still prefer they leave the place alone , and just cater for day vistors or the lucky few
who work there or visit in there own boat.
Unfair to everyone else ? maybe but thats how you keep the unque nature of these places ......
Building rotto style pubs and /or resorts unchecked would ruin places like the wilds of New Zealand , antarctica, or the amazon ( whats left of it)
So why build another here , but I agree py , just cause some mayor of gero wants something , dont mean it happens, we will see.
As most here know I spend a lot of time over there. Call me a cynic, but announcing a MASSIVE fish farm (2500 hectares) just BEFORE gazetting it a National Park seems an incredible stroke of luck for the successful tenderer Huon.
They are said to have a questionable track record over east...
I have been following the process and debate quite closely, and it is concerning that most people are for it because "its not fair that we cant afford to go..." There is an expectation of Rotto style ferries, day trips and backpacker accomodation.
However, already Geraldtons major property developer (Humfrey) was declared preferred operator, pumped a heap of money in and then dropped it because it was not economical.
With this latest announcement, I'd put money on a entrance fee very shortly, with some new offices, boats to patrol and a new CEO shiny bum position of a pollies mates who (similar to some of the Rotto saga) gets a huge salary, has rarely or never been there and has no personal interest in it. Historically the entrance fee will be 50-90% absorbed by the cost of collecting and policing it, and any infrastructure built there (probably with Gov assistance) will in a few years time be sold to a foreign hotel conglomerate, on terms that were not available to any local operator...
Having said that, Im not against any of it except for selfish reasons , and have done my bit over the years to help people get over there. I am hoping that either RFW, Fisheries or WAG decide to put together a committee of interested parties (but I doubt it) and I will try and get my nose in there to have my say.
Dont think much good will come of it - Unless it is heavily protected and not done in the interest of the few. No problem with a few small operators, resorts etc opening up if they are well managed, held to the highest standards adn accountable etc etc.
As we all know, that wont happen, money, greed or the govt, will f*** it up somewhere along the way. Im going to try my hardest to make it over there ASAP and experience it before it may go bottom up following any changes...
Best case scenario is nothing much comes of it and it stays the same
Yes, I agree but I doubt it'd be worthwhile until there is a lot of people, and by then the Abrolhos as we know it would be a distant memory. A spot for trailer boats to stop would be handy, but as you'd know very very few of the islands are accessable easily without building and maintaining a jetty.
At one time there was whisper of a dumb barge being anchored in a permenent position (in reality it could be sat on the sandy bottom in 2 meters of water) for this purpose
i agree to the national park within reason but as far as a resort it will ruin the area. reefs will be destroyed along with rubbish being discarded all over the ocean floor around the island by them big fancy yaghts that dont give a rats about anyone else. not to mention reefs being destroyed to make safe passage for bigger boats.
Those "big fancy yatchs" are already there, but they really arent that much of a problem like you mention. Few people do that but the ones that do are noticeable,and not confined to any particular demographic
In a few years time if you haven’t got the 35 ft + floating gin palace don’t bother looking for a mooring or accomodation , fishing will be a thing of the past as it will be home of the Ecco warriors
I thought there was already some type of development on one of the islands out there. I remember years ago my missus went out there with her boss and Tim Roberts (Multiplex) in his helicopter to check on some work being done.....
quadfisher
Posts: 1146
Date Joined: 28/09/10
Roll up roll up.
Yeah , I have never visited the area and who knows prob never will , but I still prefer they leave the place alone , and just cater for day vistors or the lucky few
who work there or visit in there own boat.
Unfair to everyone else ? maybe but thats how you keep the unque nature of these places ......
Building rotto style pubs and /or resorts unchecked would ruin places like the wilds of New Zealand , antarctica, or the amazon ( whats left of it)
So why build another here , but I agree py , just cause some mayor of gero wants something , dont mean it happens, we will see.
quadfisher
Rob H
Posts: 5797
Date Joined: 18/01/12
Its an interesting saga.
Its an interesting saga.
As most here know I spend a lot of time over there.
Call me a cynic, but announcing a MASSIVE fish farm (2500 hectares) just BEFORE gazetting it a National Park seems an incredible stroke of luck for the successful tenderer Huon.
They are said to have a questionable track record over east...
I have been following the process and debate quite closely, and it is concerning that most people are for it because "its not fair that we cant afford to go..."
There is an expectation of Rotto style ferries, day trips and backpacker accomodation.
However, already Geraldtons major property developer (Humfrey) was declared preferred operator, pumped a heap of money in and then dropped it because it was not economical.
With this latest announcement, I'd put money on a entrance fee very shortly, with some new offices, boats to patrol and a new CEO shiny bum position of a pollies mates who (similar to some of the Rotto saga) gets a huge salary, has rarely or never been there and has no personal interest in it.
Historically the entrance fee will be 50-90% absorbed by the cost of collecting and policing it, and any infrastructure built there (probably with Gov assistance) will in a few years time be sold to a foreign hotel conglomerate, on terms that were not available to any local operator...
Having said that, Im not against any of it except for selfish reasons
, and have done my bit over the years to help people get over there.
I am hoping that either RFW, Fisheries or WAG decide to put together a committee of interested parties (but I doubt it) and I will try and get my nose in there to have my say.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
ricey
Posts: 738
Date Joined: 24/12/09
You are a cynic
but I think you would be great to advise on what would be good management... got my vote
Wise man says - first take the plank out of your own eye before trying to take the speck out of somebody else's.
Fisher Kid
Posts: 358
Date Joined: 16/10/12
Dont think much good will
Dont think much good will come of it - Unless it is heavily protected and not done in the interest of the few. No problem with a few small operators, resorts etc opening up if they are well managed, held to the highest standards adn accountable etc etc.
As we all know, that wont happen, money, greed or the govt, will f*** it up somewhere along the way. Im going to try my hardest to make it over there ASAP and experience it before it may go bottom up following any changes...
Best case scenario is nothing much comes of it and it stays the same
Fishing and catching are two different things. But i want to learn how to catch.
dodgy
Posts: 4577
Date Joined: 01/02/10
Just can’t see it being
Just can’t see it being economical for any kind of large scale accomodation. There just isn’t the demand for it.
I would like for there to be a small marina with a pub and a place to get a shower and steak sandwich but the logistics are stacked against it.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Rob H
Posts: 5797
Date Joined: 18/01/12
Yes, I agree but I doubt
Yes, I agree but I doubt it'd be worthwhile until there is a lot of people, and by then the Abrolhos as we know it would be a distant memory.
A spot for trailer boats to stop would be handy, but as you'd know very very few of the islands are accessable easily without building and maintaining a jetty.
At one time there was whisper of a dumb barge being anchored in a permenent position (in reality it could be sat on the sandy bottom in 2 meters of water) for this purpose
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Faulkner Family
Posts: 18026
Date Joined: 11/03/08
i agree to the national park
i agree to the national park within reason but as far as a resort it will ruin the area. reefs will be destroyed along with rubbish being discarded all over the ocean floor around the island by them big fancy yaghts that dont give a rats about anyone else. not to mention reefs being destroyed to make safe passage for bigger boats.
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
Rob H
Posts: 5797
Date Joined: 18/01/12
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Those "big fancy yatchs" are already there, but they really arent that much of a problem like you mention.
Few people do that but the ones that do are noticeable,and not confined to any particular demographic
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
meglodon
Posts: 5981
Date Joined: 17/06/10
Sadly I can see foreign investors lining up now
In a few years time if you haven’t got the 35 ft + floating gin palace don’t bother looking for a mooring or accomodation , fishing will be a thing of the past as it will be home of the Ecco warriors
Deckie
Posts: 1296
Date Joined: 03/04/09
Already.
I thought there was already some type of development on one of the islands out there. I remember years ago my missus went out there with her boss and Tim Roberts (Multiplex) in his helicopter to check on some work being done.....
Cheers & Stay safe
Rob H
Posts: 5797
Date Joined: 18/01/12
That’s his deckie
That’s his deckie shack....lol https://m.imgur.com/gallery/rgNALbx
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.