Anyone on here own a Ford Territory????
Submitted by wadetolley on Wed, 2009-04-08 13:02
HI there! Looking at buying a 4wd to tow my new 5.3m ali boat. Have been looking at some Ford Territorys. There a 6 cyl 4 litre so im thinking they would have enough grunt to tow a boat. If anyone knows anything about them, let me know..cheers Wade
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I think Ryan said he had one
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doesnt tim have
doesnt tim have one?
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are you paying for the fuel?
If you are, give them a miss. Very thirsty. If it's a company bus then who cares!
But they are AWD, not 4WD, so don't expect too much in way of off-road capabilities. $45k is a lot to spend on a pretend 4WD IMO......
For $50k you can get a base model 5 door Pajero that is a real 4WD, have way better fuel economy and tow your boat about 1000 x easier. The 3 doors are even cheaper. I'd personally have that over a Territory any day of the week.
Or you could even go for a Ranger/Colorado/Hilux/Triton/BT50/Navara with dual cab and a tray if you dont "need" a conventional "4WD" wagon.
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dont do it.....
marketed for the american market. the first few gens shipped to Australia failed markedly.
as huggy says there an AWD and softroader....
dont waste your $$; go for a diesel, we have a pajero and very economical and robust car. can look at prado but more expensive than a pajero. hilux unbreakable and triton is a good car.
leave american stuff alone
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Teritory is built in
Teritory is built in Australia for the Australian market. It is not exported. It has been the #1 seller in its catagory since it was released untill this year. I think you are getting confused with the explorer.
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They are, apart from the
They are, apart from the territory having really lousy fuel economy. Too many people complain about 15l/100km in city circuit for it to be just a myth.
Buy a turbo diesel!
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I thought the first gen Territory was built in the US
could be mistaken though but i do remenber that they upgraded the chassis/susspension on the subsequent models(s)
either way both are softroaders and there are better options (IMO)
nothing personal
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mistaken
its all australian in design and manufacture (well some of the parts). But it was and always has been put together here.
Ford was a customer of mine in a previous job, I know it pretty well back to front, as I spent a lot of time with Ford trying to improve their output and casting quality. But because it cost a measly 4c per block more (but only required 5 minutes machining compared to 35 minutes usually) it was rejected. The things I could tell you about that I6 4L - suffice to say I wouldn't buy one. They couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, hence why they are struggling now and will eventually shut.
The Tezza was referred to as the "bullfrog" around the factory for obvious reasons.
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as Damo said
and I must have deleted from my reply
turbo diesel, turbo diesel, turbo diesel!!
And when towing, the economy of a t/d versus a petrol is like chalk and cheese. The t/d is a lot less affected, the petrols get very thirsty as they have to be reved a lot harder. But the diesel has the high torque at low revs to overcome that deficincy of needing to rev the ring out of it.
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Thanks fellas
CHeers for the advice fellas!
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Wade, A bloke I work with
Wade,
A bloke I work with has one and as the blokes have said above the thing is horrendous on the juice. He will get rid of his as soon as his lease is up.
I have a 5.3 Razerline which I tow with a turbo diesel Kia Sorrento, the car does the job really well and is light on the diesel consumption. Might be something to look at, I did a lot of loking at the mid sized AWD/4WD markey and came up with the Sorrento.
Cheers Steve
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Thanks
Thanks Steve will check out the kia sorrento now.
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Pretty sure either Ian,
Pretty sure either Ian, Colin & Dreamweaver all had ok things to say about the Kia Sportage or Sorento. I think Ian mentioned this product review once also.
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Sweet
Thanks fellas..The territory..is off the list..so are awd's ! Can pic up some cheap 4 x 4s Like ford couriers/tritons/rodeo that will do the job for me. Petrol ones will chew some juice on big trips...but hey....when going away only once a year on a big trip..who gives a toss.
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Hmm still think you're nuts
Hmm still think you're nuts buying petrol. We flog my brothers 4wd 3l? diesel bt50 and it still uses less diesel than the 2l petrol 2wd it replaced. I was shocked to see better fuel economy in the bigger motor on a heavier car.
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triton
So Till..do you think a Mitsy Triton 4cl 2.8L Turbo Diesel would have the grunt to pull a big boat?? Or if going for a turbo diesel..should you be looking at 3L + cheers!
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I think you would be fine
I think you would be fine with your boat, being ali, shouldn't be too heavy. We only tow a little ali 4.2 cc and you don't even know its there on the bt50.
Doubtless someone on here knows more than I do about how they tow?
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boat
Boat weighs about 1200 all up im sure. 680kg boat....150kg motor 300kg trailer something like that!
Whats a Bt50 mate??
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bt50 is just a mazda 4wd
bt50 is just a mazda 4wd ute, its got a 3l turbo diesel in it, and its rated to 3t tow capacity.
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I have a turbo diesel sorrento.
Had it 12 months now and have towed my 5.4 trailcraft to exmouth twice. Cost about $200 each way in fuel. 2.8 ton towing capacity, 4wd and for under $40,000.
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Sounds good! Do they have high and low range??
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Both
Knob inside that you turn for low or high.
I looked at all the smaller 4wd's and the sorrento was better by far. The territory is more expensive just for the base model, you then have to pay extra for 4wd! My boat wieghs 1.4ton and i dont notice it on the back!
Sat on 110 kph all the way to and from exy. Got back last nite actually!
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cheers mate
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turbo diesel is the way to
turbo diesel is the way to go when towing
my boat loaded up when we go away comes in at 3tonne and my navara 3ltr tuobo diesel pulls it ok, however it does struggle up bigger hills(but what doesnt)we cruised comfortably on about 90 to 95kmhand got around 400 to 450 to the tank
now i have it with gass injected it has more power so to do the same speeds i will be running less revs so should be cheaper to run or i just put my foot down for power
i know everyone has their own opinion on 4x4s but after driving the triton the other day i would never get one
the hilux is better now than it used to be for stability and also has the 3ltr td
but for price you can pick up a nissan navara from 04 to 05 at a reasonable price
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Navara
Have narrowed it down to a 2006 nissan navara 3L Turb Diesel. Can get them with only 80k on them, for around 20k...thanks for everyones help!
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If you are looking at
If you are looking at putting it on gas when you get one it gives more grunt give Rapid Gas a call $3800 and $3000 back from govt
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"however it does struggle up
"however it does struggle up bigger hills(but what doesnt)"
Well I can think of one that doesn't..lol
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You can pick up 2006 lowlux with around 40000ks and 4x4 dual cab 135kw very powerful turbo common rail diesal motor for $12000 to $15000 . These are ex minners but I have had a look atem and they are in vg cond but no lic. I will be buying one myself soon. Anyhow just another option. Cheers all.