sounds like fun. should have kept a bronzie for dinner and lunch and dinner and lunch , well you know what i mean. plenty of filets off one shark

Heading up to a nothern beach tonight..wouldn't mind tangling with a few bronzies.Although id settle for a mulloway.

was it north or south of the lagoon.

It was North of the lagoon.

Was fishing just north of the lagoon this evening and only managed 1 under-sized Tailor and a couple of small hits. Lots of wind and weed around which made it difficult.

woooo, sharks... sounds like a plan. well... theres been alot of word bout sharks here and there lately. taste so good. WOULD LOVE to get loaded up on a good sized shark. Actually been inkering for it. Cheers for the tip mate. 

Plenty of sharks on the northern beaches.Bagged a nice little Bronzie around 1mt long on sunday and a long nosed grey last night.Kept the bronzie for a feed.

Are you from Durban?
Thanks for the heads up on the bities.

Hi Colin, yes originally from Durban and have been in Oz for 10 years now.

area.

Welcome to the site ,sounds like the shark population is on the rise with a lot of smaller sharks turning up,out wide and on the lacal beaches.

How do you fillet/clean sharks?  Aren't you meant to cut the fins and tail off straight away to stop the amonia leaching or something?  How do you kill them?  I've never kept a shark before.

yea, cut tail and fins off. Depending on the shark. Normal sharks yes, shovelnose dont really have to. And killing.... If you got a knife im sure you can think of something lol. Or ideally, fish spike through the noggin

Anyone had any luck there lately? I went there on Saturday evening/night and was just puling lumps of weed. Otherwise not a bite. I think there is no fish left in the ocean for LB fisherman. I am about to give up on fishing as I didn’t get anything in the last 5 or 10 sessions between Mandurah to Lancelin.

These offshore winds are no good for tailor.

hey colin,

what are the best fishing conditions for tailor and herring as in winds etc

thanks mate

The tailor like movement in the water. The best places to fish are areas where there is a bit of white water from wave movement next to some deeper water, or next to a reefy area.

However, you can still have a good outing in calm conditions if the tailor are really around.

I don't think herring are as fussy, though I have also found that they tend to me more agressive on the bite when there is a nice south wester blowing.

sorry, i know the post was for colin, but i'll throw in what i found thats worked for me also. Herring dont seem to be too phased about water clarity and wind conditions as i've caught them in close to no visability as well as in big choppy water. But i do find they like to gather in certain locations, estuary mouths, around edges of rock groynes, reef holes etc. Places like jettys and such arent really a gather point unless there's attractant or burley. Herring are pretty all round, found everywhere and in all kinds of conditions.

Tailor on the otherhand will school and gather seemingly within roughly 12knots and above winds. They do seem to prefer waters that tends to meet with lesser moving waters. For example if you're at northmole facing north and fishing the point, have straight southerly winds... You would most ideally fish where the chop coming from the south meets the calmer water covered by the rock wall. So the rock wall stretches from west to east, you will fish the point, facing north and casting northwest since thats where the different water movements collide.
Tailor are ambush predators and will use the current, swimming against it to stay around the same area and ambush the smaller baits that ge washed from their comfort area of the calm into the rough where they have less control. While baitfish usually school, in rough waters they'll have less sense of direction, the harsher waters will scatter them and be easy pickings for tailor.
Tailor will use alot of things during the day to their advantage, floating debris and whitewash for cover as they dart out from under to ambush. At night they dont need to cover so they will spread a lil more as a school. As long as theres some decent chop and bait like yakkas, herring, boneys, slimys etc... Tailor should be around. Below tailor is always snook hanging about pickin up scraps.
On calm days, there ARE tailor around but scattered. The reason is, if the waters are calm and bait are not scared or deterred by water and weather conditions, they will go out deeper, spread out anywhere. So then, so will the tailor as bait would be anywhere and everywhere.

Tailor do rely on reflection and refracting of baits and lures as well as following scents so water clarity is pretty important. Reason why I myself uses glowlight is not because i think it attracts tailor. I use it because since mulies and such baits have scales and do reflect light i use the to aid refraction of my bait while spinning. Another reason i use glows is as an depth and casting aid. Once i cant see the glow in the water, i know its time to haul it up higher. Also if im fishing near others, its so they and i can see where my line is in the water to avoid nasty tangles or so i can be accurate where i want to cast and distance i want. The green glow also attracts herring which in turn brings closer the ambushers like tailor, salmon, snook etc.

Hope that helps somewhat. Good luck.

But it is pretyy spot on info.

I totally agree.

Kwazulu were u using whole mackeral or pieces, like fillets or half mackeral?

thanks

thanks guys..thats some great help there...make it easy to understand too....by the looks of things tomorrow evening doesnt look too bad at all for a fish...do you guys agree?....i really need some help on spots as im a newcomer to around here and really dont know where is good or not

thanks again guys

Yep, the wind conditions Thursday night and Friday night look pretty ideal. The tides should be okay too.

thanks colin....come on guys..dont be shy on spots...really am dying to get into it here

Happy to give you spots, but you need to give mke an idea of where you are located.

Chan may i ask where you usually go and hunt your tailor?

Chan it sounds like you know your stuff aswell as Collin. Thanks for the tips and great informative posts guys! 

sorry colin,never replied.

 im in morely but always seem to fish north of river.wouldnt mind heading down south of river someday.but first choice would be north of river colin

thanks

Personally at this time of the year I would give Cottesloe Groyne a go. It would best to fish there mid-week as it can get pretty crowded. You need to get there before sunset and try and grab a spot either right at the tip, or close to where the reef ends on the southern side. You need to fish for at least a few hours after sunset and if the conditi0ns are ok, try throwing out unweighted mulies.

Another option would be to get yourself a baitcatcher rig. The ones with the six little hooks and the feathery things above the hooks. Cut it in half and set it up with a swivel attached to your leader and a medium sized spook sinker on the bottom. Head down to Pinaroo Point about an hour or two before sunset. Bait up the little hooks with very small pieces of prawn or squid and cast your line out about 20 to 25 metres. You should soon have a heap of sand whiting.

Hopefully you will have a bigger rod that you can rig up with a paternoster rig. Use the whole whiting as bait and hopefully as the sun sets a nice big tailor - or even a mulloway - will come along and snaffle one of your whiting.

I will give you a yell.

Chan theres a lot of good information in your 'book' post up above about tailor fishing. But i was wondering when you were talking about using glowsticks and being able to see the glow, does that mean that you 'trawl' ur bait along? As in cast it out and then slowly wind it back in again? If so do you get more tailor that way? Because iv always just chucked the bait out, with some weight on it and left it to sit...

as in spinning for tailor, yes. Once you get a bite, pause, as if its a bait fish and is now dead or wounded and cant swim, it'll come back for another chunk. I would only use a sinker in high movement waters and for cast weight. Sometimes if i fish beaches occasionally i put a large ball sinker above my gangs and make sure its running. I use running ball sinkers for extra cast weight and also because as you wait, the current/wash will roll it into gutters where tailor sit for the ambush as well as mullas/soapies. As the wash and strength of the breakwater's undertow moves, the sinker will be on the ground, this is where you give your line a metre or two of slack. The current will keep your bait off the ground instead of it sitting in one spot on the bottom if your line was tight. This also works for salmon off the beach. Only 2 reasons i use ball sinkers is for very light weight for breaming and finding gutters. With the undertow currents, ball sinkers will always roll to where you want to be fishing.

Hope that helps you queries

hey guys,

just letting you know had a good night friday night fishing up in quinns rock...caught herring for a 1 hr or so..let them all go back...on the way home i stopped off in hillarys,watched for a half hour off the disabled jetty...saw a few asian guys catch small herring while i was there and bucket them...this really aint good.i just think if this keeps happening our fish sizes will keep getting smaller..agree anyone?

 im keeping an eye out for next week weather patterns...looks very calm weds and thurs morn...is this a bad thing when there is only a slight wind,all be it a east wind?

 thanks

Dunno, there is a theory that atlantic cod sizes are getting smaller because people kept taking all the big ones, perhaps if people take small herring, then there will only be bulls left?

as H S Chan has said , nothing wrong with taking small herring.if you want to mess around with small fillets i cant see a prob as there is no size limit on herring. if it was skippy or tailor it would be a different story.

i suppose guys ...sounds right but just looked odd to me thats all.afterall im only getting used to your fishing ways here!

has anyone any ides on how floreat or cottlesloe are doing early in the morning?might try down there tomorrow morning

i suppose guys ...sounds right but just looked odd to me thats all.afterall im only getting used to your fishing ways here!

has anyone any ides on how floreat or cottlesloe are doing early in the morning?might try down there tomorrow morning

just back from a spot i found nor...had a great morning fishing.caught heaps of herring,some really good size ones to..caught 2 yellow tail bream(if im correct),im delighted now.was thrilled with the fights off the herring,fiesty fish arnt they..

thanks for all the help guys on here

has anyone been out today?was really good for fishing this morning

My tip. If you have found a good spot, stick to it, at least for awhile. Try out some different rigs and baits and make a note of what rigs and baits work, and what were the tides, moon phases and winds, etc. when the fish were really biting.

yea, what colin said is a good thing to do. So you know for next time the ideal conditions it was when you did catch and if it happens on similar conditions other times you can compare and see and judge for yourself the best conditions to fish for that particular fish.
I try to keep a journal for everything decent. You can work out a really good weather and water formula for yourself and sooner or later you will know the perfect condition to fish, so you dont have to wait, camp around etc. You can pick the right tie for it and go fish, cathc and go home

thanks colin and h.s chan...it was so good fishing yesterday,went up there this morning again..had a great day,even better..the weather was ideal...caught some nice tailer...the stingrays turned up,was packing my gear away.chucked in left over berly,and then the fish went mental for it and went on the bite again so stayed on for another hour,,...person next to me said he never saw the fish move and jump so fast for the berley..it was thronged with fish..happy days but off to karratha tomorrow so wont be down for 6 weeks,,,

thanks for everything guys

No worries, glad we could help and happy to see you had a good day on the fish. many many more of them to come so make sure you got a camera with you to share with us some good pics mate.