Boat verses House Poll please
Submitted by deepwater on Wed, 2010-11-10 20:46
Hi All , this is the dilemma we are having at the moment ... a new boat/ish or another house in Exmouth!! What do we all think of this!! I have 2 kids a lovely wife would be for great weekends away. Or do we get the new house and wait for the new boat?? What do you all think???? Jeff
Albee Mangles
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Hows..
Get stuffed sound?
allrounder
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Screw the house
buy a boat that is big enough to live on and rent the house you have out problem solved allround
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
STEVE231
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Can't go fishing in a
Can't go fishing in a house!!!
You only live once...
grayzeee
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pfffffffffft what are you
pfffffffffft
what are you going to do in "another house" in exmouth??
sit in it and get on line and look at pics of boats and fish others have bought and caught.
if you already have a house , then no question.
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
marble
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Since you said another
Since you said another house in Exmouth I`d be voting for the boat . . . you cant use two houses at once but a house and a boat makes sense . . . Nice looking rig that too
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MattMiller
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Dare I ask
what does this bad boy cost?
Lucky Tim
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geez Jeffo the heart and the
geez Jeffo the heart and the head are saying two very different things there.
Nice looking tub with a hell of an electronics suite but one word of warning- an old work boat of mine had a 200hp Yammy 2 stroke and it was SO thirsty. I used to cringe when I was filling it up, and I wasn't even paying the fuel bill. Personally the big 2 strokes like that are too expensive to run in my opinion, you'd be better getting something with a 4 stroke.
grayzeee
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tims got a good point!
tims got a good point!
gorgeous boat but motor is a deal breaker
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
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BOAT
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paint job
crikey hows the paint job on that baby!
you'd wanna be very cautious pullin up alongside the jetty or the like in that!
nice looking tub tho
agree with the 2stroke comments tho
i really hope you can make this life changing decision easily enough jeff lol
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Kingfisher549
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Economics
Easy solution, purchase the house, hire a boat when you are up there for the next few years, sell and make enough profit to both purchase another house and new boat. Wife and self will be happy with the result
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Markie
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I agree with Kingfisher549,
I agree with Kingfisher549, great idea
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yep!
yep!
deepwater
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No Exxy House
Sorry guys didnt mean to confuse.. The house is in perth, we are thinking of a house in Exmouth as we live here. Love the comments guys, good to know about the 2 stroke though, better look more into that though.
The little girl is only $19 700 and 23ft long. Thanks guys llok forward to hearing more!! please good boat ones.
oohh i do have a problem though!! the missus wants to name it "hello Dolly" .
jeff
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You only live once.
If you've got the house, get the boat. But I'd be replacing that motor.
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NOOOO
Dont buy it...... ill buy it off you so u do not need to worry
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5.7metre tinny out the front
Hey tommy... jeff has a 5.7 metre tinny... i meant stacer sitting out the front ..you can have that for $12000...lol
Not as pretty as Dolly though!!!!
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are you looking at getting
are you looking at getting that boat from over in the states?? purchase price may be good, but have you worked out the freight?? with the strong aussie dollar now would be the best time to buy one from over there.
bit suss about the paint job too to be honest - the hull might be a bit weathered or damaged and they could have fixed it up and just given a nice spray or maybe even one of the graphics wraps to flash it up a bit too. just like any second hand surfboards with a nice spray are more than likely once snapped boards that have been reapaired....
And you would have to fork out a coupla grand for the trailer too - which would more than likely require some modifications to get it to comply with the aussie standards.
Big choice though hey - with the aussie dollar so strong the boat would be tempting, but with all the bank b.s. going on right now you might be able to snap up a good deal for a house in Exxy...
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ok here it is. you own a
ok here it is. you own a house in perth and renting a house in exxy. you currently own the boat you have and you get out in amongst the good fish with it. if you spend 20k on a boat now , when the kids are older lets say 16 or 17 that boat (if still running) wont be worth too much at all. If you buy a house in exxy in the same amount of time the house will have increased in value , hence you will be better off. imo it is a no brainer . go the house. wish i had bought a 2nd house when we had a chance. the boat can wait and then the deckies will be older and be able to help you launch / retrieve and pull anchor/sea anchor instead of you doing it all
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boat
get the boat lol cruse craft aye ??
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If you know of any more 20K
If you know of any more 20K houses for sale, please let me know.
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Ads comment
Love the nickname Ads gave it, "Rainbow Princess" like Ads , not too sure I'd like to be seen in it for a while before the locals get new sunglasses.
Russ and a lot of the others have put out their thoughts and most are very convincing, its something you and Vic will need to sit down and toss about.
The comments on the engine being a 2 stroke are well founded, whether the dealer over there can organise fitting a new 4 stroke or continue looking for a similar boat with one already fitted.
Will give you a ring tomorrow.
Faulkner Family
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i know where a 23 foot boat
i know where a 23 foot boat is for sale at that price and has a trailor
As you said John its their decision and one that has to be considered very carefully
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Perry Home
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Creates a Few Questions Really
What's the true cost, realistically & an Alternative?
Cost of boat straight up - $20K
+
Replacement Motor(s) - 4 stroke ? - minus sale of 200hp fuel snorter - $20K
+
Shipping costs & tariff to land the vessel- $????? - lets say $10K
+
New trailer - heavy duty (to carry that puppy) - $8k
+
Vehicle capable of towing rig that size( tow capacity - depends what you've got now?) Ford F250 ?????
Conservatively your not gonna get out of it for less than $60K even with the tow rig that you own already
SO CHECK THIS BABY OUT!!!!!
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Feral
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save the money for a house
save the money for a house deposit so i can camp in your back yard Jeff ... didnt think about that did ya's :)
instead of charging rent just make sure there is a deckie spot for yourself on any boat that stays at the house .. easy fixed :P
in saying all that .. i own a boat and not a house ..yet :)
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Just to give you some real
Just to give you some real world figures on that engine, my 20ft Southwind has what looks to be the same motor (97 Saltwater Series 2 200hp) and on my most recent run to the barges we did 60nm and used 102L. Did about 18 knots out, and 35 knots back.
marble
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Its the 35 knots back that
Its the 35 knots back that hurts the fuel gauge Cammos
is good fun though . .
Jeff to go from Bundegi to Peak and back we use 70 to 75 litres with a 300 Suzuki 4 stroke , about 50 to 55 nm travelled and motor idling holding us on the spot while we bottom fish all day. I`d seriously look at a 4 stroke or newer technology 2 stroke, theres plenty of 2nd hand boats around at the moment.
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Cammos
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You know with my boat, it
You know with my boat, it actually doesn't. That motor is more frugal the faster you go, up to about 5800RPM, after that, yeah.
bod
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solution
sell the house in perth and buy the house in exmouth and the boat. ;-D
Seaquest
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$20000 seems way to cheap to
$20000 seems way to cheap to me. Be careful. Had a mate all keen on buying a boat from the US. It looked great in the photos online. Last minute he was convinced to get someone to check it out in the US. Lucky he did because it was a piece of crap. Very easy to hide faults in photos (photoshop). Get someone you can trust to check it out.
Go the boat though, lifes to short. I'm sure the boys will love a new boat. Maybe a few camping trips over at the islands.
deepwater
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this was also one i was
this was also one i was looking at http://grass-shack.net/new_vehicle_detail.asp?veh=51741&pov=1829880
im thinking of getting one from over seas jeff
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There are a lot of nice
There are a lot of nice deals in the states, you do have to keep a good eye on the motors though. I personally wouldn't buy a 2st that big especially with the miles you guys are likely to rack up!
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All for fun
Unfortunately for Jeff... i would like to get the house first. We did have a 3 year plan.. the holiday of my dreams to all the disneys then the boat of his dreams!! Although i do love that boat and wish jeff could have it, i think if we dont get into this exmouth market soon ..we will miss out by probably a million dollars!!
He will get the boat of his dreams..i promise but right now i think we would be silly!!!
I PROMISE BABY ..YOU WILL GET YOUR LOVELY BIG BOAT!!! AS SOON AS WE CAN AFFORD IT..XXXXX
Oh and yes we see Jig-a-jig everyday as its about 4 houses up the road...
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looks like the boss has
looks like the boss has spoken. realistically , the house is the no brainer as first option for your $.
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crasny1
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Im with the Faulkners
You would be mad not to go the house way. Exxy is a fisho's dream to to have a house there would be awesome. Trade off as mentioned above is to invite wreckers to camp on your ground and go deckie, or in Exxy you only need a small boat to get among some good fish.
The house will certainly increase in price, and with the marina development competing for selling the price at the moment would be as good as it will get. Then with the equity in your properties you'll be able to afford a boat aswell.
But I also understand the statement life is short etc, and a person should have fun not just worry about $$$.
I still think its a no brainer for me.
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whats a house?
whats a house?
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get both
well if your up for more gardening and painting etc , borrow more for renovations on the negative geared housing loan over a longer period and put the boat through on the same loan, rent the house and let some one else pay of your boat , save some more money when your not out fishing , pay off a lump sum on the loan and reduce the loan to a smaller house only loan, house prices should go up again soon and alls good
deepwater
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i think the wife is right we
i think the wife is right we should get the house ,but that was one i was looking at,i am not going to get a 2st that is for sure now ,thanks for the words of warning on that one,we do travel alot up here and the one i have got chews through a lot of fuel so it will be a 4st for sure. get the house and put the boat on it ,{i think that is the new plan} i have to work on. thank you all for the feed back and i got more to think about for the new boat soon o and house thats again jeff
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how about
How about you spend 15g on the boat you have, a new trailer and a new motor and maybe some new carpet which will leave you a few months worth of work to catch up to getting a new house. Not much point getting a new boat when the old girl just needs a few touch ups to make her gold again.
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Billcollector
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With a paint job like that
With a paint job like that all the locals will think your full of yourself
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Buy the house. I've just returned from exmouth and am seriosly looking at relocating there myself. good value in my opinion.
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get the boat
I reckon get the boat while the Aussie dollar is so high. Opportunities like this do not happen every day.
Renting out the investment house in Perth makes more sense for taxation purposes.
Wait until the housing bubble bursts before buying in Exmouth.
It will happen. Just be patient. All over the world Australia is known to be one of the dearest places to buy a house & Exmouth would be one of the dearest country towns around.
Rising interest rates & the escalating affordability problem will be the nail in the coffin.
Get the boat. Enjoy yourself!!
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wat about
ur wife wnted to call it hello dolly, call it Hello Dollie as Dollie is Japanese for mahi-mahi
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You are both young
honestly if I was in your shoes, thinking for the future for you both and your kids, buy the house in Exmouth, I agree with Adam do the old girl up, put a new motor on her. You have a excellent opportunity to buy another home in Exxie, go for it, 5yrs time (not long when you are young) then the big sparklie new boat will be in the drive way. But it is both your decision, we can only advice you both. My tip think of the future, as I think you will make a killing buying a house in Exxie
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deepwater
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thanks Roberta we are trying
thanks Roberta we are trying so hard for some thing up here now but the banks will only give us $350ish a 100 not enought ,so looking,looking ,looking
jeff
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Yes Deepwater
went on the real estate site and typed in exmouth and noticed the houses are very dear most around $450,000 to $650,000. I tell you what for what they want a 3x1 in Exmouth compared to Leeman/Jurien Bay, its cheaper to buy a house in Exxie. as we are thinking of relocating to Jurien or Leeman, but at the moment we'd have to dip into the super and that is a no no, so we are still in Perth hahahah.
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