Boaters stealing spots
This may have been asked on here before but last week had "heated discussion" with a f@#kwit who had come in from miles off shore in a decent 6.5mt+ boat and b-lined it for me while I was anchored only 1.5km offshore. I quickly explained to the missus what was about to go down as this happens almost every second trip I go out.
He came in quick, then started circling my boat from about 60m out and worked his way in looking for the ground I was sitting on.
Like us all we work hard to find good ground and there's nothing worse than scabs coming around steeling your hard earned spots.
My question is, is there any rules out there stopping people coming so close (I could of jumped onto his boat on his last rotation!)
I now write down boat numbers and get my camera out taking photos of the boat. Also thinking of putting up a divers flag too.
Any suggestions that hopefully don't involve jail time? haha.
Give a man to fish and he'll eat for a day, Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in his boat and drink all day...
Sambo84
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first suggestion is dont
first suggestion is dont tell anyone what you did/going to do in the future haha or you could just through ball sinkers
lastcast
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Spots pingers
I've got certain spots that I only visit
in fairly rough weather for this reason.
lastcast
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teamjelly
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Haha, yeah Sambo that was my
Haha, yeah Sambo that was my next move. I'm trying to think how a "name and shame" photo board could go up somewhere. Maybe on FB or maybe on here as a photo thread? Dunno.
I just can't believe how many scabs are out there. Usually in way bigger boats than we are in.
Give a man to fish and he'll eat for a day, Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in his boat and drink all day...
Sambo84
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all money and no brains
all money and no brains
derek
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Show me how to claim a mark
Show me how to claim a mark and I will shut every one else around here down
Jackfrost80
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I had a dive boat pull up to
I had a dive boat pull up to me whilst anchored no more than 150-200m away and started sending divers down into my chum trail... I didn't stop chumming and even sent a floating filleted wrasse their way
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
timmy k (not verified)
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Lol
That's gold
Da pirate
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Capital city !!
We live in city bud !! Best just let em do what doing
and not let it ruin ya day out mate !! But
yeah is annoying ! When I'm out aslong as
there not gonna cut our drift I dont really
worry bout too much !! Just pray to the fish
gods they catch f#£@k all for the day !!
Anyfishwilldo (not verified)
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Of late I've only been
Of late I've only been targeting whiting and have had boats drive past seeing me catch fish. Then for them to pull up 20m (no shit) from me and drop a line. Not exactly the hardest fish to catch but it goes to show it can happen anywhere.
Da pirate
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My mate !
Got a mate when were out and he's in mood if any
boats come up and ask what's were targeting or
catching he starts rattling off northerns species! And
watch em cruise away with funny and confused looks
with our box full of mangrove jacks and a triple tails !!
lol !!
ranmar850
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Time to get the popcorn out
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beau
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Had the same shit a couple
Had the same shit a couple weeks ago while anchored for pinks, 2 guys in a much bigger boat that mine circling at one stage i thought he was gonna chop the drifting baits out the back then as they came around the side i had to give them a yell because they were about to go over the anchor rope. Absolute tossers
Scotte
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Should have let them have
Should have let them have for free lead beau lol
Paul_86
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Unfortunately very
Unfortunately very vulnerable to be pinged when the anchor is down. If I'm anchored and burlying on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday then I'll avoid my favourite spots, save them for mid week sessions. Lately I've just been trying a new spot each time, so many great spots on the 3mile that you will pull pinkies off with a good burley trail.
Coastrunner
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Mate one of the usual
Mate one of the usual responses in these threads is "how do you know your not anchored on his spot" big ocean out there, Ive travelled 20nm to find a boat pretty much where I planned to fish, yeah it can be annoying but dont let it spoil your day out on the water.
Krusty
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Yea there has been plenty of
Yea there has been plenty of times I have been heading out to one of my marks and as I get closer I realize that someone else is already there.
From their perspective, I am making a B-line for "Their spot"!
For me, bugger someone is on my mark, oh well I will just head to another one. It's not "MY" spot anyway.
I wouldn't however circle the boat and get very close, just turn the wheel and head to the next mark.
There are a few people out there that just seem to have no friggen idea though.
My fishing spots are so secret........... even the fish don't know where they are !!
bennym_82
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Pingers
Not always a bad thing, was gearing up for a dive once and a boat came straight for us. Was about to get hot and bothered about it when they asked if we wanted a dhuey. They'd caught a 15kg that "didn't" release so they offloaded a 9kg specimen to us.
Definitely gets the blood boiling when someone steals a well earnt spot though.
derek
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Hope fisheries don' read
Hope fisheries don' read this
derek
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my spot
WTF makes you think its your spot, nothing on the licence says it your spot, nothing on the GPS says its your spot, get ur head from up ur arse people fish where legaly aloud and where they find fish if you want to clame it put a marker there and see where it gets you
Bryce Day
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Be careful Derek, some people
Be careful Derek, some people get pretty protective about spots. You may well find yourself pulling your own head out of your bot bot if you circled the wrong persons boat. I've never seen anyone circle boats though that's a bit extreme!
Marineboy
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Derek
sorry Derek but you're a knob, this is about etiquette and manners not claiming a spot. Think you need to get your head out your arse.
My spots are so secret even the fish don't know about them !
derek
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how do you know you are not
how do you know you are not on my spot
Paully
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^ Tosser
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hezzy
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[this is about etiquette and
[this is about etiquette and manners not claiming a spot]
unfortunatly everyone is so full of their own selfish entitlement nowdays etiquette and common courtesy/sense has all gone to hell
once upon a time , it was a known courtesy if some one was there first then move on or give them plenty of space , if rock fishing, boating , marroning etc at least have a chat & ask them if they mind you sharing or fishing nearby
that rarely happens anymore people just push in & become aggressive far too often with the lame excuse you dont own it blah blah blah
hezzy
OFW 11
evil flourishes when good men do nothing
Krusty
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100%
100%
My fishing spots are so secret........... even the fish don't know where they are !!
Septimus
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SPOT ON..
That sums things up nicely I think mate.
petermac
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exactly mate
who is to say the so called pinger hadent been there before , in saying that though , i was sat on north west reef of dampier and a bloke pulled up in his boat droped his pick and swung around on his pick and banged into my boat to say i was not happy would be an understament
Bryce Day
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He actually banged into your
He actually banged into your boat? Like a boat to boat docking?
petermac
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bryce
yeah the bloke swung around on his pick and his boat banged into mine i saw red , lots of yelling and threats , my decky wanted to board his boat , long story short he moved about 100 meters
Bryce Day
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Had a fair haul coming back
Had a fair haul coming back from peaceful one day, pulled up alongside a tinny just out from marina. Old bloke and his cook, He went off his lolly (didn't want his spot was just offering a fish being nice) It was actually quite funny. He shut up when I asked him if he wanted a couple of pinks! Threw fish in his boat and snapped his whiting rod in process (when fish hit the deck he must have had a rod laying down). He got angry again. I took off to ramp. Waited for him to come in and gave him $100 bucks for snapping his rod with fish.
i stay well clear of anyone since that expensive expierence.
nothing you can do! Just show respect to others spots and don't throw sinkers at anyone.
Rob H
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Think you may have located
Think you may have located your interloper Jelly
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Bryce Day
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Yep
Yep
derek
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not from 600 kl. north
not from 600 kl. north
derek
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My spot My spot, if its
My spot My spot, if its yours mark it and say so
ranmar850
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...gets more popcorn...
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sea-kem
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Lolz
Lolz
Love the West!
derek
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ye yawn
ye yawn
derek
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These people fishbone spot
These people fishbone spot dry then complain that there is no fish
derek
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These people fishbone spot
These people fishbone spot dry then complain that there is no fish
derek
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Excuses for not taking fish
Excuses for not taking fish home, sorry dear someone was on MY spot
sea-kem
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Quality comments Derek.
Quality comments Derek.
Love the West!
derek
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Rob H
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600km away but got a BIG
600km away but got a BIG interest in whats going on...
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
derek
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Hate winging ba#$$ards
Hate winging ba#$$ards
derek
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I also fish alot
I also fish alot
derek
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If you want to fish where I
If you want to fish where I am get up earlier
Rob H
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or just park up against you,
or just park up against you, its ok i gather from your comments?
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Anyfishwilldo (not verified)
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I wing it all the time...
I wing it all the time... probably why I catch no fish, maybe I should plan a little better. Then maybe I would have more success and whinge less about people stealing my spots.
rob90
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Excuse me if im wrong but
Excuse me if im wrong but you've done a bit of winging yourself here derek.??
Hi my name is rob............. and I'm a........... fishaholic
teamjelly
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Haha thanks for a good
Haha thanks for a good morning read! Some valid points though.
Yeah we were fishing in a pretty common drop off, and a couple of fellas drifted past within casting distance that doesn't bother me at all. Friendly waves were exchanged no dramas. But when scabs come in from the deep with well more capable boats than mine just to circle your spot 5 times to check your ground (not even a chat just eyes on the sounder) it fires me up.
If anyone thinks that's ok I'd be guessing they do the same thing as this fella. No respect.
Give a man to fish and he'll eat for a day, Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in his boat and drink all day...
ranmar850
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...puts popcorn down briefly..
This "subject" has been done to death. I've done some long posts on it, but it all boils down to this. You find somewhere , maybe not very obvious, where you catch fish. No-one is anywhere around at the time, so you draw the utterly ridiculous conclusion that it new, undiscovered, unknown. You call it my new secret spot. You find someone else on it one day. MY SPOT, YOU'RE ON MY SPOT. Bloke could very easily reply, no, it's my spot, I've been fishing it for years. Then another bloke turns up, you're both on my spot, I've been fishing it for decades. Fact is, it's probably on about a hundred different plotters. Get over it.
On the topic of people coming up to you to "ping" (I'm starting to hate that term), I remember a rant I first saw on this when I first looked into this forum. Someone had a real whine about a rich bastard in a flash boat coming up and pinging, spoiling his drift, etc. Turns out it was a highly respected FW member, and when he replied, his side of the story was very different. Ranter had to pull is head in , bigtime.
There is certainly an etiquette involved in this, but just remember the old saying, " believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see" You see someone doing something, and put your own interpretation on the motive for his actions, and you can be WAY off the truth.
quote "Hate winging ba#$$ards" unquote. Pot, kettle, black?
sea-kem
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Thanks for the common sense
Thanks for the common sense comments Ranmar, Where I fish there aren't many others that get up that way but we do see others from time to time, if they are near or on ground I fish I just take off to another spot. We don't own the ocean, just give each other space boys unless invited to fish a line or drift. Too much agro out there.
Love the West!
quest
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So true!
Totally agree.
Jackalchub
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Extremely common, sometimes
Extremely common, sometimes it's worth pretending to fish 200m away when they approach
Jackalchub
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Dive flag won't stop some of
Dive flag won't stop some of them
Silver Fox
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Swaps popcorn for hotdog and beer.....
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My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
Willlo
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Hand full of mashed mullies
Hand full of mashed mullies over the windscreen gets the message across
Call Sign - BZ785
Haynes Hunter Prowler CC
teamjelly
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Haha Ranmar, obviously there
Haha Ranmar, obviously there is many different cases and lots of different opinions on this topic.
Good to know what people think out there as I'm new to FW.
I've already ordered a dive flag to chuck in my rocket launcher. $11 - ebay. Problem solve.
What ever you say mate, but this guy was a scab.
Give a man to fish and he'll eat for a day, Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in his boat and drink all day...
paul d
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Sounds like everyone needs a
Sounds like everyone needs a Sheldon Cooper on their boat.
Jackfrost80
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On this topic, I'll take the
On this topic, I'll take the kids out for a spot of fishing inshore at Hillarys and if I see a boat anchored up around Little Island also fishing for herring I'll generally park in their general vicinity 100-200m to make sure we are both attracting the fish to the same area but making sure that my berley trail heads their way rather than sitting in their trail. What's everyone's thoughts on this approach?
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
Saulty2
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etiquet
was fishing in the 90s last year was doing reasonably well soon another boat came to fish same area ,didnt say anything but i was getting a little hot &bothered when he came right up and started chatting he explained he wasnt pinging and nominated the spot called {%6&8} so we shared the area soon he was on to a 15kg.? DHUE could you imagine the angst had he not have come over for a chat.bottom line is get over it
crasny1
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I have said it on here before
I have said it on here before but what happened to me off Dampier takes the cake for Pingers. Was fishing a good spot when a cat turned up and came closer to say Hi. He then commented "wow, some fish down there". I asked the deckie to film this, which she did and was pretty pissed off, even though the blokes on the cat seemed friendly.
Don't bash a spot to often, but 2 weeks later thought we would try it again as the winds were nice.
Law and behold the cats on the spot, and as we got closer he told us in no uncertain words to "F" off HIS spot".
Now that just got me ropable and I proceeded to recount the story and got close enough to show him the photos (language probably not for this site).
Threatened him with a few things including telling the story and posting his photo and video on here and FB. He finally apologised and up anchored. At least he realised he was a Prick.
However I don't own the spot so if another boat was on there I wouldn't have gone over, but because of the previous 2 weeks and him coming over to say hello, I thought I would do the same. Normally I just move on to another.
"I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact!!" _ Elon Musk
petermac
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hahaha cransy
i reackon that cats boats name starts with a s and second name starts with a b the owner is a succesfull long term buisness man in K town , not a bad bloke when you get to know him but he does have his brain fail moments as we all do
craytail99
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Great post, pingers smoke
Great post, pingers smoke pole.....
West Coast
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Suggestion....
Don't fish weekends or public holidays if you want to maintain the dream you are the only one with your spots.......
pelagicyachts
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North wall rotto trench, used
North wall rotto trench, used to be my spot - now there are always boats on it when I head out...(esp since price of diesel has come down!)
:-( bahahaha
so road rage has become common place, how long before we have "water rage", with social media and the fact that everyone has the ability to record events - will end badly for someone soon.
I find it pretty hard to get upset over something so trivial when I am doing something I love.
Super peg
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I believe in etiquette for
I believe in etiquette for both the boat, beach and the stones, if im gonna be fishing close (which is rare) It always pays to have a chat and maybe even ask if they don't mind,
mind, if someone does this to me I don't mind, often times you end up having a good chat and a laugh as we are all there for the same reasons.
It is very easy to become protective of a good producing spot especially in metro area but that's the way it is with the amount of people fishing these days.
a few meatheads amongst a good crowd is inevitable in all walks of life.
The art of fishing consists of casting, winding, trolling and jigging
while freezing, sweating, swatting and swearing.
ranmar850
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This^^^
Don't fish weekends or public holidays if you want to maintain the dream you are the only one with your spots...... unquote
crano
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Dive flag won't work
We dive lots and never put up a dive flag as it only encourages them. If we ever break down we will just put up the flag and I am sure we would have some knob swallower
with us in no time.
Dale
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I mark all my spots with a big red crayon, so if you see one of them when your out and about, it's mine, so don't fish there.
"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
Mr Wolf
carnarvonite
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Waterproof
Has to be waterproof crayon and put on from underneath otherwise it washes off.
Had a laugh years ago, finished pulling shark net in close off Sugarloaf and was steaming out towards the Yallingup lumps, spotted a couple of boats anchored on a lump that is marked on the charts and shifted course to say hello and see what they were catching. Got abused up hill and down dale for pinching their spot.
Big deal, when you don't even bother marking it when you have a couple of thousand better ones already in your GPS. Could have told them of a spot about 400 metres off that was 100 times better but didn't after getting a mouthful.
petermac
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i was on a charter
i was on a charter of exy with a mate he switched his moble phone to gps mode and tracked were we went on the charter , cunning bastard , we headed out the next day and went exactly where the charter boat had gone , i didnt know he had done it untill he showed me his phone and not saying it right but is easy to do
_cliff
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It may be a Perth thing,
It may be a Perth thing, look at some USA fishing videos or even IFISH episodes, people fish about 20m from each other, just because you're at the spot first doesn't mean they didn't have that mark too. Bit like the freeway with people getting pissed when you try to merge into "their" space lol
Rob H
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Ive never really had to much
Ive never really had to much drama with it, but this subject certainly brings em out of the woodwork.
Its not rules, or illegal but it is just plain old fashioned manners not to do something "just cos you can"
Like getting on an empty bus/train and sitting next to the only other person.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Krusty
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Now that would freak me out
Now that would freak me out if I was the only one the bus/train and someone came and sat next to me...there is however always the exceptions.
She could be very good looking and with great swim bladders
My fishing spots are so secret........... even the fish don't know where they are !!
little johnny
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Sounds like
Pink season starting to crank up . Lol. Soon be 200 people in one spot. Funny
Red Dog
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1 day, 21 hours and 77
1 day, 21 hours and 77 comments later... anyone catching any fish?
teamjelly
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Nice love it! Yeah it was
Nice love it! Yeah it was never about being there first or how many other boats were fishing next to me it was the manner in which this fella did it. He wasn't there to be friendly, hand over fish or even fish next to me. Scabs
Its a big bloody ocean out there with endless fishing ground so I've never known why anyone would ever want to fish on top of another boat anyway??
Give a man to fish and he'll eat for a day, Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in his boat and drink all day...