CruiseCraft Outsider 625
Submitted by Woodsy65 on Wed, 2019-01-02 18:00
Was chasing some info about the CruiseCraft Outsider 625, more specifically a 2001 model. Most of us know the good reputation that CruiseCraft has, however with the 2001 model, was there anything in particular that was a problem? Or any general info or opinions about the 625 would be appreciated.
Cheers
Woodsy
squidvicious1
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Nothing wrong about them at
Nothing wrong about them at all, be more worried about the year motor fitted. Pay for a marine survey with peace of mind.
Do a bit of comparison, go to boat sales and type in 'outsider 625 ' click all boats all over australia.
its a bit hard to see photos but compare boats similar age to what those boats have to the one your looking at
and add $3-$4 for comparison.
trailer rust no rust - discount
fibreglass shiny or not tells the if its been looked After
clears faded- replace or put up with for a while
motor runs on the muffs, telltale-strong service history?
look in all haches & behind the instruments does the wiring look good.
Offer some money for a rough water test.
And ifs powered by a 150 adequate- anything bigger is better.
Woodsy65
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Thanks Squidvicious,it all
Thanks Squidvicious,
it all looks very neat and tidy, very little work. Has a 175 yammy 2-stroke on it which is the biggest downside.
squidvicious1
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Whats the electronics like,
Whats the electronics like, can always be upgraded? Nice holeshot with the 2 banger.
Woodsy65
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Electronics are old, would
Electronics are old, would need replacing. Yep, the 2-strokes go ok except for the fuel bill!
ace rimmer
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great boats
My mate has one with a 150 Yamaha 4 stroke and it goes really well, cruise at 20 kts on about 3800 rpm. The layout fitout and finish is outstanding and CC would be one of australias best built boats. I wouldn't be a fan of that motor so would depend on the price, oh and make sure the trailer has electric brakes as full of fuel they are well over 2 tonnes all up cheers Ace
gruntre69
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Just have a good look at it.
Just have a good look at it. They have a habit of transoms being soft/rotten, despite the good reputation. I have a friend with a 2010 with a soft transom and have read many reports of others. They changed to a fully composite construction in about 2012. I would also have a look at all the screw heads that hold the inner panels onto the upper deck moulding, the screw holes flog out and can't be tightened. The upper deck mouldings also fstress fracture at the bolt holes where the targa frame bolts on.
Most of these are minor issues other than the transom but will give you an idea how hard a life it's had. It is Big dollars to have the transom (properly) rebuilt.
They're a pretty solid and safe boat, riding slightly hard in WA chop. Good luck with your search.
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Woodsy65
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Thanks gruntre69, that's the
Thanks gruntre69, that's the sort of info I was after. Curious to know what you consider a good hull if the CC rides slightly hard in the WA chop.
Cheers
holth
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Good call on the transom.
Good call on the transom. Any glass boat that's 18years should be looked at for soft spots
SeperateKnob
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Always a trade off between
Always a trade off between ride in chop and stability. The CCs have less deadrise than HHs so CC will be harder in chop however more stable at rest and will use slightly less fuel and possibly suit a smaller engine than comparable HH
duges66
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FWIW if you spend most of
FWIW if you spend most of your time in the cabin then go for the Outsider 625 if on the other hand you spend most of your boating time not in the cabin go for the Explorer 625. The Explorer has 200mm more back deck space, the outsider has 200mm more cabin space.
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Woodsy65
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Thanks for your feedback
Thanks for your feedback guys, very much appreciated.
Woodsy
ranmar850
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Where was the boat from?
Be very wary if from FNQ, they rot really quick up there, thriving business in rebuilding transoms/floors in boats less than 10yo, according to talk on Ausfish. As gruntre69 says, be very careful, could be rotten. Even if very shiny. Same with just about any f/glass hull. I'd really be pricing it down if it has an old 2-stroke and old electronics, and it probably has an old-style dash with no room to mount anything flush. The motor is old, and entirely unpredictable as to how long it will last. May last 10 years of excessive fuel bills, may blow up next week. Add deteriorated clears and a few "odds and ends" to it, suddenly you've spent $30K on it if you factor in a repower and up to date electronics. Without any hull work.
How much are they asking?
Woodsy65
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Boat is from Victoria
Agree completely with what you are saying Ranmar although I think it is a balance of risk we are prepared to take, versus the coin we are prepared to spend. Less risk on a new or late model boat, however a greater initial cost. The boat is a one owner boat that is mainly used for grandkid joyrides in Port Philip Bay and whilst obviously not new, presents very well. The owner is asking $42500.00
On a different note, enjoyed your write up about Shark Bay and would be keen to "pick your brain" when I am in a position to replicate your trip.
Woodsy
ranmar850
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Exactly
yer pays yer money and yer takes yer chances, as the old saying goes. Buy carefully, and you can many great years without a lot of outlay.
And yes, ask away about Shark Bay.