A Day in the Deep

Plans had been made for a day in the deep on Easter Monday.  Four of us including Eric, Jeffrey, Greg and myself on Eric1’s Grady White and another three on Wangler’s boat.  Conditions couldn’t have been better as we headed out from the Ocean Reef ramp.  60 odd kms later we locate some fish in I think around 270m of water.  First runs on the board was to Wangler’s boat with a gemfish.  Jeffrey then stood up to the plate and scored a nice grey band cod. 

 

 

 

 

 

I followed soon after

 

 

And then another solid fish that gave me a good work out.  In fact I think it almost won.

 

 

 

 

The end result.  Fish was taken on a 500g Power Jig.

 

 

Greg added to the score.

 

 

And Jeffrey topped the day off with a double header. 

 

 

Eric added a nice pinky and we had bagged out.  Lots of green eyed sharks during the day and a few nannygai.  Wangler’s crew also bagged out so a great day was had by all.  Thanks to Eric and Wangler and company for a top day.  No day would be complete without a last pic of Jeffrey on the way home.

 

 

Gemfish and sounder pic added

 

 

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great day had by all

Tue, 2012-04-10 10:39

and looks like you couldnt of asked for better conditions!

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very nice Alan!

Tue, 2012-04-10 10:42

Did the diamond eye do the damage??

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They work good Tony

Tue, 2012-04-10 11:11

The Power Jig Diamond Eye scored my largest grey band although I might add it was foul hooked just behind the pectoral fin.  I lost one to the bottom and Jeffrey lost the other to a good fish when the 300lb leader cut through about half way up on a good fish that we had called for another grey band.  Time to reload with another order I guess.

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I'm really loathe to lengthen

Tue, 2012-04-10 11:55

I'm really loathe to lengthen the hooks on mine because of snaggy bottoms.

300lb leader cut thru? Sounds like gill plates!

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Gill plates

Tue, 2012-04-10 12:53

We thought maybe the same thing.   The last 200mm of the leader was quite scarred which gave you the impression that the whole jig had been injested rather than cut off on the gill plates.  I struggle with a grey band cutting a 300lb leader with anything other than gill plates though.

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Plenty of sharp edges on

Tue, 2012-04-10 15:15

Plenty of sharp edges on their heads, apart from the gill plates.

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I think I'll try circles

Tue, 2012-04-10 20:42

or recurve hooks on a longer assist with the next order.  This may lessen the possibility of snags.  In 250m+ of water I'm not convinced the don't strike principle with circle hooks applies considering the bow in the line due to current.

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nice work

Tue, 2012-04-10 11:03

 looks at those conditions 

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 what a magic day. some nice

Tue, 2012-04-10 12:03

 what a magic day. some nice fish there guys. and some great eating on its way. 

 JEFFREY, what is up with you. clean fresh air out on the ocean is suposed to be invigorating not meant to put you to sleep. 

gotta be happy with a haul like that lot

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Great fishing boys

Tue, 2012-04-10 12:48

Somebody should start a Jeffrey snoozing page!! LOL

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ami the only one who cant see

Tue, 2012-04-10 12:59

ami the only one who cant see the pics??

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purple wiggles son ???

Tue, 2012-04-10 14:12

Maybe Jeffrey is the purple wiggles son ??????

cheers fishfish

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well done boys

Tue, 2012-04-10 14:24

mint conditions as well, did u guys get a pic of the gemfish?

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Gemfish and sounder pic

Tue, 2012-04-10 22:18

added Harro

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cheers alan

Wed, 2012-04-11 10:12

nice gemmy mate or is it..,  , hard to target but i,m working on it,

great pics bud

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Awesome

Tue, 2012-04-10 16:31

Great day Alan. Missing the deep water stuff when I see you guys cleaning up. Reward for effort no doubt.

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conditions looks awesome wow

Tue, 2012-04-10 16:33

conditions looks awesome wow :) well done boys

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A Day in the Deep

Tue, 2012-04-10 20:33

Great Post Alan

3 things to add

Great crew to have had on the boat

Unbelievable conditions

Great catch

Like Wangler, I have now revised my best eating fish list with Gray Band taking over the top spot from Dhu Fish. Just had 10 people over for a family dinner including Dhu and Gray Band and all agreed that the Gray Band was fantastic

Looking forward to going out with all of you again soon

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 Me too eric. I ate close to

Tue, 2012-04-10 20:59

 Me too eric. I ate close to 600gms of Greyband tonight, and i also rate them higer than the dhufish :) very yummy.

cheers for a awesome day out

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Can I have all your mack then ?

Tue, 2012-04-10 21:04

 haha

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Next time i come over i will

Tue, 2012-04-10 21:07

Next time i come over i will bring a few more slabs :)

there is only so much mackie sarah and i can eat ahah

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 if you guys like the grey

Tue, 2012-04-10 23:42

 if you guys like the grey band you should try some of the other deep species. walks all over the greay band (harpuka)

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looks like a great day

Tue, 2012-04-10 20:56

looks like a great day fellas!!

i was out from o/reef in the 60-70mts catching dhuys and i heard you guys chatting on the radio, at one stage someone had to tell you to give it a rest, bit of jealousy i thought...ha ha ha

if it wasnt for the nice dhu i got i would of told yah's as well.

how was the fog hey???

we left in dark and had 4+ boats waiting on the lead and they jumped in behind me to follow us out, with the fog the lead lights dissapeard within 200mtrs.

i save a way point on the end of the lead...easier to come back to as well, but i have a mapping gps so its all steer by gps anyhow.

 

great feed boys, in magic cond, what more could you want??

cheers

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Bloody hell. Top stuff. We

Tue, 2012-04-10 21:13

Bloody hell. Top stuff. We tried a bit if deep jigging on Monday at around 250m for a stinking great leatherjacket and sore arms......not sure I am young enough for that shit anymore, but good luck to you fellas!

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 Hi johnFNever too old. I am

Tue, 2012-04-10 21:17

 Hi johnF

Never too old. I am 65. Choose your crew, mine did most of the work :)

 

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had some 'gemfish'

Tue, 2012-04-10 21:22

 tonight, not bad, small fillets after getting the big bones out which run along the whole side, great neighbour fish if they enjoy filletting.....

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Will definitly pass on some

Tue, 2012-04-10 23:12

Will definitly pass on some of it then Dougie hahahahahaha.

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But is it a Gemfish?

Wed, 2012-04-11 09:49

I think it maybe one of these:

Black Snoek Thyrsitoides marleyi

More here:

http://www.fishbase.org/summary/Thyrsitoides-marleyi.html

and here:

http://fishwrecked.com/image/what-have-i-caught

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This is what Buz

Wed, 2012-04-11 10:11

was thinking. I still ate some, and didn't have the 'runs' so I know it wasn't an oil fish.....

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maybe not gem

Wed, 2012-04-11 10:14

gemfish is very tasty, its the common hake n fish n chip shops,

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see this link

Wed, 2012-04-11 10:15

http://www.fishbase.org/summary/FamilySummary.php?ID=414

family of Gem ?

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yeah

Wed, 2012-04-11 10:40

yeah same family fish, 3 fangs also give it away,

was it ok to eat? id like to catch one ,

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not too bad, lots of

Wed, 2012-04-11 11:16

big bones that run all the way along the body, and harder to fillet. I'll use the next one for bait or put it back

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Barracouta

Thu, 2012-04-12 12:24

Alan asked me to have a look at the 'gemfish' and see if i can help. 

I think it is a Barracouta Thyrsites atun.  I would be much more confident if the photo was higher resolution, but am still almost certain.  Snake Mackerel Gempylus serpens are much longer and thinner than that.  Gemfish (Rexea species) are much stockier fish and have only 2 finlets before the caudal (tail) fin.  It looks like 6 in the photo.  The Black Snoek Thyrsitoides marleyi has no finlets, rather, they are connected by fin membrane (like normal fins) and has two lateral lines.  Again, I think I can only see one lateral line in the photo.

The Barracouta and the snoek are very similar fish.  If you are interested, the latin oides means 'similar' or 'like', so the genus name of the snoek literally translates to Thyrsites-like (ie Barracouta-like).

Great haul by the way - looks like a fun day out.  I didn't get to wet a line at all over easter...

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Thanks Glenn

Thu, 2012-04-12 13:06

So if the 8th pic from the top is a Barracouta Thyrsites atun, what are these?

and is the fish below the same?

Thanks for your time Glenn.  It's great to have you on this website.

 

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making it hard!

Thu, 2012-04-12 15:09

Talk about throwing down the challenge!

OK, the first two are actually the Black Snoek Thyrsoides marleyi.  I can't see the lateral lines, but the second dorsal and anal fins appear to have full membranes rather than separate finlets.  But in those photos, the size of the ventral fin (the big white ones under the pectoral fins) are a give away.  The ventral fins of the Barracouta are much shorter (1/3 to 1/2 the length) than the pectoral fins.

The last one is more difficult.  You can't see the lateral lines or the ventral fin, but it looks like separate finlets before the tail, so I'm putting my money on Barracouta.  But, I wouldn't put the house on it based on that photo!

Also note that the membrane of the dorsal fin of the snoek is not solid black (can see in the first photo) whereas in the Barracouta it is.

How's that?

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Nice Photos

Thu, 2012-04-12 14:41

and Story Alan, Good to see the boat out of the pen.

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You're right George

Thu, 2012-04-12 15:40

if only, but I was on Eric's boat, not mine.

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What Sought of Rod

Thu, 2012-04-12 16:32

is that Alan

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It's a Daiwa Interline

Thu, 2012-04-12 16:50

I don't think they make this model or the other model I have anymore.  The one in the pic is 5'6", it's rated as a 50-80lb stick and it has heaps of grunt.  The other I have is the 6'6" version which is rated as a 20-50lb and I just love the action of both of them.

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Super-Deep!

Fri, 2012-04-13 01:04

Well done crew on some descent greyband from the super deep............as for the other yeh Barracouta......I've got them in the 230- 280m stuff when chasing GB!

 

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Great fish guysAlso great to

Mon, 2012-04-16 08:24

Great fish guys

Also great to see some non-electric reels in use :-)

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