divers on crab pots
Submitted by Had on Thu, 2015-01-15 13:07
Lastnight I took the kids down to woodmans point for a fish and chucked some crab nets in .as soon as dark came we had around 20 divers swimming under the jetty and on the sides where people throw nets and drop there lines . Got into a few arguements with them as they were diving down to my pots 2 of them got tangled up in my ropes . Is it wrong for me to throw 32 oz sinkers at them haha ? I was very pissed off thats for sure . Ended up getting 2 sized crabs usally get my 10 down at woodies
meglodon
Posts: 5981
Date Joined: 17/06/10
You are right - don't throw 32 oze sinkers
Get a house brick and throw that at them, or start burllying up big time with a couple of letres of offal.
Jackfrost80
Posts: 8148
Date Joined: 07/05/12
I had waders hovering around
I had waders hovering around my drop nets in Mandurah a couple of weeks ago either taking my crabs, waiting for the ones attracted to the bait or scaring crabs away.
Now I just follow them around and wait for them to stir the crabs up and just out and scoop them.
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
quadfisher
Posts: 1146
Date Joined: 28/09/10
Move to eucla?
Less people there , cause Perths not the small city it was, so we must all try to get along.
crickets ..................crickets , haha never gonna work is it! yeah the problems appears when we rely on others to do the righty!
Few years back we went to brighton beach/ scarbough boarder about 6am , to fish for salmon.
All good , caught one , then blow me down about 8.30 , a surf school apppears on the beach with about 20 people , whom just swam straight out
in front of us fishing , tangled both our lines , and than just filled the gutter in front of us.
I gave a few mutterings and left , so I know your pain.
I have posted on here before about idiots with no sense of whats right or decent just bombing in on a spot
you have been for hours , and I just dont like it . So its learn to share with others, even when they dont show respect or stay metro grumpy ( new term) for ever
Im moving to eucla.
quadfisher
carnarvonite
Posts: 8672
Date Joined: 24/07/07
leak
If they are free diving right next to the jetty while robbing you pots , have a leak in a bucket and kindly donate it to them when they come up for a breath, oh bugger, sorry about that yellow liquid going down your snorkel
Hutch
Posts: 2221
Date Joined: 21/04/13
Lol
Juneka
Posts: 222
Date Joined: 14/12/09
Crabs at Woodies...
Urm... isn't Woodman Point considered part of Cockburn Sound - taking of crabs being banned for another 11 months?
Save the Whales! May as well - they won't fit in my catch bag!!!
bleicester
Posts: 219
Date Joined: 10/09/14
i thought that
i thought that too www.fish.wa.gov.au/Fishing-and-Aquaculture/Recreational-Fishing/Recreational-Fishing-Rules/West-Coast-Bioregion/Pages/Seasonal-Closures.aspx
The Cockburn sound "no crabbing" zone extends from Woodman point to Carnac island. I then had a look on google maps and there is a jetty just north of Woodman Point so I guess that's where they were
Error 404
Fish not found
SpotHound
Posts: 439
Date Joined: 06/02/14
Woodies is closed for crabs south
Most definitly part of the closed area !
But only on the south side.!
http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/Fishing-and-Aquaculture/Recreational-Fishing/Recreational-Fishing-Rules/West-Coast-Bioregion/Pages/Seasonal-Closures.aspx
Vinesh87
Posts: 2751
Date Joined: 02/04/11
Seriously divers dont need to
Seriously divers dont need to steal your crabs haha
The jetty isnt just for fishos but the divers should really remain under the main structure and away from your pots. And getting tangeled in your nets, they sound like they are just learning to dive/night dive.
Throwing sinkers at a diver could end in Murder
Subaquatic
Posts: 514
Date Joined: 23/04/11
Why would a diver want to
Why would a diver want to steal crabs from a net, I see more out of the nets when I'm diving than I do in the net.....BUT feel free to throw sinkers at me, however please be prepared to have an interesting shit in the morning when it decides to leave your body.
Ninety Mile
Posts: 193
Date Joined: 17/01/12
32oz sinker fishing on the
32oz sinker fishing on the jetty lol!
Scotte
Posts: 1145
Date Joined: 07/12/06
i think hes talking about
i think hes talking about the ammo jetty so not part of the sound..
lachieH
Posts: 1126
Date Joined: 02/03/13
I was happy the other day
I was happy the other day for divers coz they picked up a net float that had gone 5m underwater because the water was too deep for the nets.
but on the other hand the issue was that 2 English blokes started pulling my mates net up slow as without even asking. It was very annoying but we didn't want to start an argument because they looked like body builders or something. But it was annoying
Fishing the swan for bream, it's just an obsession
randall df223
Posts: 6454
Date Joined: 08/08/11
Next time just instruct them
Next time just instruct them (politely) how to do it properly....
Fish! HARD!
Had
Posts: 3
Date Joined: 15/03/14
They were asked to go under
They were asked to go under the jetty or out wider . Not in everyones way very nicely . Until I got told to fuck off .then i strted to get annoyed .the jetty I crab off is not apart of cockburn sound . I fish out deep hence why I had 32ozs in my bag but that night was for the kids to have fun
seadoggystyle
Posts: 43
Date Joined: 26/08/13
Kids to have fun with
Kids to have fun with sinkers? :-)
Dkontor
Posts: 54
Date Joined: 20/08/14
woodman point
4 weeks ago i was at woodman point with my gf, and cousin trying and failing to catch some bait. After about 15 mins of setting everyone up i was finally wetting a line when around 50 divers (think it was a dive school??) enter the water and proceed straight to the end of the jetty. Wouldn't of given a fuck if they had stayed under the jetty or on the other side where NO ONE was fishing but they went stright to where we and at least 3 other families where fishing. bubbles coming up every square metre. highlight of the day was the kid next to us screaming "DADDY CAUGHT A DIVER DADDY CAUGHT A DIVER".
Seriously my sister dives and i had wanted to go eventually but if a dive school can't even teach some common courtsey no wonder divers make free with peoples crays.
Notorious
Posts: 914
Date Joined: 23/02/12
throwing sinkers at a diver
throwing sinkers at a diver cause they accidently got tangled in your pot is a shortcut to a punch to the throat.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/174055815943047/?fref=nf
Jackfrost80
Posts: 8148
Date Joined: 07/05/12
10 years of Muay Thai
10 years of Muay Thai training says no to that scenario
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
Had
Posts: 3
Date Joined: 15/03/14
I like a challenge notorious
I like a challenge notorious
straith
Posts: 422
Date Joined: 25/11/13
empty all your fishoil on top of them. sticks to the wetsuits.
Sharks like their meat marinated...
Subaquatic
Posts: 514
Date Joined: 23/04/11
Great Thread Kids......See
Great Thread Kids......See you all behind the bikeshed after school
turtl3tim
Posts: 203
Date Joined: 01/01/15
ahhh the good old debate
lol this reminds me of something i saw on the news earlier in the week, cars and bicyles fighting it out for the same bit of road!!. common sense isnt so common anymore unfortunately:(.
i cycle to work every day, but i use the footpaths that the council was nice enough to provided, with my land rates and tax money. Not like those cock-roaches on wheels who think theyre entitled to use the vehicle lanes which anyone in a car, truck, whatever else requires a license for! if u want to cycle on the road you should need to obtain a license and undergo testing like anyone with a vehicle is required to do - and then they should be restricted to bicycle lanes only, just like cars are restricted to vehicle lanes only, not emergency or bus lanes and certain offroad tracks.
i think learning/diving should only be permitted in certain areas that are close to shore where the public arent able to fish, simply to avoid such conflicts as entanglement in lines/ropes or poaching. i understand the need to train in shallow waters, but there is A LOT around that isnt being used by people fishing.
i think as fisherpeople we have enough common sense, not to go out into the deep and start dropping lines with 32oz sinkers ontop of divers, trying to catch fish, because we know that there are people down there diving... fair is fair! and so goes the old saying - "the early bird gets the worm", if we see divers and a diving flag then we dont fish ontop of them.
why cant divers have enough common sense to see that people are fishing, and not dive under them? especially if the fishers were there first.
now lets all play nice and stop the throat punching/sinker throwing/poaching and empty threats and just use a bit of common sense/courtesy.
its simply a matter of majority rules. cyclists are to cars, as divers are to fishers.
Good things come to those who bait.
some_bloke
Posts: 11
Date Joined: 26/10/14
Seriously? Far out guys, if
Seriously? Far out guys, if you think good landbased fishing spots are hard to come by try diving if you dont have a boat, there are much much less interesting and safe sites to go out on. The ammo jetty in particular is a great shorebased dive and more often than not divers avoid lines and try keep out of the way, night time is a little different as you cant see as much around you.
Those of you wanting to throw sinkers at us, have a good think about it. Try to see it from the other side. Think about the damage you could do to someone underwater if you hit the wrong spot with a heavy sinker. Stop being so greedy and share the space.
As for divers stealing crabs from your net. Try diving at night. You will see that you will probably get more crabs away from the nets than in the nets.
We, fishers or divers, don't own the jetty, it is a shared space, diving there whilst people fish I rarely get hooked but it does happen (and it hurts so it isn't something we try to do)
@Turtl3tim
"why can't fishers see we use these jetties to tie our boats up to..."
"why can't these fishers see we are trying to dive here and observe nature..."
"why cant these fishers see my children are having fun playing in the water and jumping off the jetty..."
It is all shared space and provided you dont cast out aiming "for the bubbles" you would rarely get caught up with a diver.
uncle
Posts: 9486
Date Joined: 10/02/07
bugger
I though the bubbles were fishes farts!
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
turtl3tim
Posts: 203
Date Joined: 01/01/15
@somebloke, im not referring
@somebloke,
im not referring to the jetties that people 'moor' their boats to, nor am i referring to jetties/beaches that people swim on with their children.
sure, if i had a boat and needed to moor it then i would be annoyed if numerous people were fishing the jetty... but normally there are signs stating not to fish/swim/dive in these places. simply because boat owners pay good money to moor their boats in harbours/docks. so if people disregard these signs then i would label them as cock-roaches.
sure, if i see a family swimming on a public jetty (which typically wouldnt be good for fishing due to lack of currents/waves/structure/depth- hence people swimming there) i wouldnt piss and moan or cast a line in there ontop of them, because if i saw people swimming (especially young children) what sort of a dick would i look like if i jagged a hook into them or injured someone with a sinker?
if u want to dive and observe nature then i think the best place to go would be out deep-just imho (thats what the license is for isnt it) typically there is alot more to observe out on the reefs where people arent fishing, and there are ship wrecks and whatnot. right? but like i said, even fisherpeople like deep sea fishing, but if we saw a dive flag up we wouldnt be dropping hooks and sinkers ontop of you.
my point was first come, first serve. divers are more than welcome to dive in the shallows but dont do it under people who were there fishing first!
that to me...is common sense?
Good things come to those who bait.
some_bloke
Posts: 11
Date Joined: 26/10/14
I'm using the mooring as an
I'm using the mooring as an example. Last week I was fishing next to some old git at bicton baths who went on an hour long rant about how a boat owner was a dickhead for mooring a small yacht up to the jetty. The jetties weren't build for fishing in the first place, yet this guys felt fishing was the one and only use for them.
Again, more of an example of how all ocean users need to share!
Families fishing and swimming at a public jetty... I spent my childhood swimming in and around both ammo jetty and at coogee beach so people do swim at these jetties... I wasn't saying you would fish over them just that we need to share because jetties are multi use structures!
"if u want to dive and observe nature then i think the best place to go would be out deep-just imho (thats what the license is for isnt it) typically there is alot more to observe out on the reefs where people arent fishing, and there are ship wrecks and whatnot. right? but like i said, even fisherpeople like deep sea fishing, but if we saw a dive flag up we wouldnt be dropping hooks and sinkers ontop of you."
So what about those without a boat or $$$ to pay for charters? The ticket teaches you to dive safely (Open water up to 18m, advanced limits are 40) they dont require you to dive a min of 18m each dive. ammo jetty is around 6-7m off the top of my head and is one of the better most accessable land based dive sites SoR. You may as well say, "fishing is better offshore so go out there..."
First come first serve? So one fisher can stop an entire group of divers from diving? Share it. Most divers would try not to venture out onto the northern side to not get in the way of the fishers, not only that, have you considered that the bubbles also drift with the current and can often mean the divers were no where near your pots to begin with? Divers at the ammo jetty generally stick to the structure anyway so unless you drop right on the pylons you shouldn't be getting the divers!
Daniel Y
Posts: 423
Date Joined: 30/09/05
"if u want to dive and
tassy
Posts: 372
Date Joined: 30/06/14
If some miserable git stole
If some miserable git stole my crabs in front me, two things would happen...
1 I would as suggested throw in every pice of fish gut I could find minced with several bottles of fish oil.
2. I would stand there nice n quiet waiting for em to come out of water...
Thieves deserve no politeness lol
As for throwing good sided sinkers at em, he'll yes as hard as you can.
Five bream an counting
One tree
One fooone hand
One jetty.
turtl3tim
Posts: 203
Date Joined: 01/01/15
somebloke and daniel y, thats
somebloke and daniel y, thats all im saying, people need to share, not that one has more of a right than the other to be in a certain place at a certain time, but common sense and courtesy does prevail, if fishers are fishing on a jetty then dont dive and entangle their lines/ropes.
if divers are diving under a jetty then dont bait your hooks and drop sinkers on them, like i said, first come, first served.
not all fishers have a free boat or access to unfished reef either, but if we did...and we happened to see a dive flag, im sure as hell we wouldnt burley up and drop our lines in ontop of you.
COMMON SENSE AND COURTESY IS ALL IM GETTING AT!.
I dont dive! and no, i wouldnt have a clue! but that doesnt mean i would intrude on someone who was in a certain place before me. the same applies to land based fishing, theres nothing more annoying than having a a whole beach to yourself, but if someone sees youre catching fish, theyll set up 10m away from you.
im not having a dig at divers, nor am i saying land based fishers have more of a right to be in a certain place, at a certain time.
comprehendeh'?
Good things come to those who bait.
big john
Posts: 8751
Date Joined: 20/07/06
Teamwork
Divers need to swim the baits out for the shorefisho's, shorefisho's then hook and pump in the large sharks (gw's preferably) whereby the divers then smoke the weary sharks with their powerheads. Everyone's a winner.
WA based manufacturer and supplier of premium leadhead jigs, fligs, bucktail jigs, 'bulletproof' soft plastic jig heads and XOS bullet jig heads.
Jigs available online in my web store!
Notorious
Posts: 914
Date Joined: 23/02/12
Big john wins thread with
Big john wins thread with that post.....close thread. :D
https://www.facebook.com/groups/174055815943047/?fref=nf
tassy
Posts: 372
Date Joined: 30/06/14
We could get lucky, if
We could get lucky, if everyone fishing threw all their burly in, maybe that would scare shit oort of the idiots thieving ppls crabs, an if you think they would do that....lol your in for a shock.
Five bream an counting
One tree
One fooone hand
One jetty.
dumper
Posts: 1027
Date Joined: 03/04/08
(No subject)
big john
Posts: 8751
Date Joined: 20/07/06
LOL
WA based manufacturer and supplier of premium leadhead jigs, fligs, bucktail jigs, 'bulletproof' soft plastic jig heads and XOS bullet jig heads.
Jigs available online in my web store!
uncle
Posts: 9486
Date Joined: 10/02/07
Courteous and commonsence
Don't live in this world. Must be obvious by reading most threads on here ha ha
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs