Drift baiting - help please
Hi all,
Im just after some advice / tips re-driftbaiting in 30 - 40m.
I have recently been experimenting with driftbaiting and found that my hookup rate (when compared with bottom bashers on the boat) has dramatically increased. My problem is, I seem to drop the fish once i have them about half way up!!!!! Very frustrating when you know a quality fish is on the other end.
Anyway, I have tried a couple of different techniques including, both hard and loose drag settings, striking vs freespooling and then setting the hook. I am very conscious of highpointing the rod, so I dont think this is the problem. ANyway, any tips would be appreciated. I know there is some great info on the site already (which is my main reason for recently joining fishwrecked), but nothing seemed to answer my specific question.
In terms of equipment, I generally use a spinning outfit that comprises a spheros 8000, 30lb fireline and matched wih a 6'6 Livefibre rod. Would an overhead (Saltiga 40 - 50lb braid) be the better outfit to use or is this too heavy? My rig is usually two snelled Owner 7/0 with a running bean sinker (size dependent on drift) to the top hook. Circle hooks? Bait is usually whole squid.
Not sure if i am doing something wrong, or have just been bloody unlucky up until now. Thanks in advance for any advice.
Hayzy.
Blake.T.
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are you keeping constant
are you keeping constant pressure on the fish when winding it in?
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Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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The idea of driftbaiting is to let the fish take the bait in. Many ppl strike too early which can put the hooks on the outside of the mouth & increase the rate of dropped fish "if" hooked
I use a medium set drag, I allow the fish to load up the rod before striking and then strike with a fast pump wind to set the hook & maintain initial pressure whist the fish is trying to shake the hooks. Softer more parobolic rods are better for less hook pull outs and i prefer an overhead (smaller sizes) when driftbaiting & for maintaing bottom touch!
The hooks your using are good, i use suicides also and all the best in the future!
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Auslobster
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What Ryan said...
...an overhead allows you to let the fish run briefly before flicking into gear and setting the hook. Most eggbeaters (apart from the "baitrunner" variety) require the bail to be flipped back over as the line is coming out...and with either reel your line should be allowed to go out as you're drifting in order to keep contact with the bottom.
Also, driftbaiting is generally done with lighter gear, say 15 to 30 lb braid. Gives a more natural presentation, much more comfortable to handle all day than your average 50 lb bottom bashing outfit, and the smaller diameter line means you can use less weight to hold bottom.
My heaviest driftbait setup is a Calcutta 400B with 30 pound braid and the most weight I use is a number 5 bean, which will hold bottom on a moderate drift in 45 metres depth.
Rob_Seed
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circle hooks
Two snelled circles work for me, I dont strike rather lift when the rod loads they struggle to shake circles.
Just one more cast
Just one more cast
Bodie
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I was out last night drift
I was out last night drift baiting, using a similar technique described by Ryan, with much success,
Managed about a dozen pinkys, about a dozen 5-8kg sambos, many skippy, a big 50cm tailor and pike as well.
Worked a treat!!
Oh and many many sharks!
hlokk
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Driftbaiting has definately
Driftbaiting has definately surplanted my need for paternostering (which itself is somewhat surplanted by jigging :p). As Ryan has said, you get bigger fish, more fish, and less crap fish. Using light gear, and having a direct connection make for a more fun fight (and the angle means quite often the fish run across the reef, not into it). My PB pinkie and dhuie have both come on driftbaited mulies. Using a baitcaster with a thumbar definately helps with feeding the line out. Nice light combo you can hold all day. The overhead saltiga would probably be more suited to feeding line out (less fun though :p)
Running fairly similar to you Hayzy (two snelled owner 6/0's and either whole squid or mulie).
Giving a few tugs once the fish is on to pull the hooks in tight as Ryan suggested will probably help drop less fish. The softer rod will also keep the pressure on when using braid.
One plus with circles is that you can leave the reel in freespool, feel the bite, let the fish pull some line feathering it out, then apply gradually increasing thumbpressure to set the circles. Then lock into gear.
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Addicted to jiggingHayzy
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Thanks guys
Thanks guys, some great tips. Hopefully heading out on the weekend so will give it a shot again.
Cheers
Hayzy