Drum lines
Submitted by Fishing_Mecca on Sat, 2014-01-25 19:27
The Drum lines down south have been set today in mass(10+) watch out for the line as already seen a boat underestimate the length(up to 20m) and come to a quick halt.
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couchee
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So i read that today a 2.6m
So i read that today a 2.6m Tiger was caught off cottesloe, so they released it ( which i think is good ), but they only released it 1km from shore..... wtf, isnt the whole idea of this to reduce the population of sharks around populated beaches and reduce the numbers in total.
SO they piss it off by baiting it in and catching it then release it probably still hungry and only 1km from shore, im baffled.
Swompa
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Put it back where they found
Put it back where they found it. What's wrong with that?
couchee
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They didn't "find it" there,
They didn't "find it" there, they attracted it with bait, my thought process here is if they were actually that concerned about the safety of the people they would have relocated it further out to lessen the chance of there potentially being an incident.
dowders
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Why are you on a fishing
Why are you on a fishing website because you obviously dont fish, they are everywhere mate not just because of the bait lines
couchee
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Im fully aware of their
Im fully aware of their presence in the ocean, i just dont think it was wise to release it so close to a popular beach if their goal is actually to make the beaches safer.
I am voicing genuine opinion,it is a public forum after all, so theres no need to be a smartass
MattMiller
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This point
is wrong, attracting them in??? Ever thought these baits could be attracting them OUT, away from the beach?
terboz123
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Hahah yes matt!
Hahah yes matt!
a hard days fishing still beats work
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lets see his reply now....
lets see his reply now....
a hard days fishing still beats work
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Thats a valid point Matt, i
Thats a valid point Matt, i didnt think off it that way, but i still dont see why, if they are atracting them out from shore rather then in, why would they release it so close? the only logical reason i can come up with is perhaps they dont have the facility to transport the ones under 3m? or they just cant be bothered.
thanks for your constructive input terboz123 well done
terboz123
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Hi couchee.... my input was
Hi couchee....
my input was great , just as good as your to be honest. But seriously you want the truth, i am a fance sitter on this debate. At the start i just loved a good debate and arguement so i would of been seen a anti-cull, but these days the true colors are out and i have realised there is no win win situation on this topic. Then i did my own research on these drum lines in the QLD which another FW member told me to look at and some what seen the light.On your points you raised , i found them quite pointless and obviously you have just joined this forum to argue against all us fishers so hence why you got stupid replies. The more i see of this "anti cull" stuff the more i realise none of you actuelly have a clue as to whats going on?
"they cant be bothered" was there any reason to bring this in, its quite obvious we dont have the facilities on the boats to transport sharks offshore alive. Havnt you seen the news?
but its a sad state affairs when some ones just trying to make a buck and hes getting threats from left right and center for his life and working when he is doing nothing wrong and taking on a contract from the government.
I think all you anti cull people need to realise you should be addressing the government rather then others, but hey anti cull have probaly realised they will jsut be ignored so you take it out else where.
a hard days fishing still beats work
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You see terboz123, i
You see terboz123, i completely disagree with what you have just said, firstly i joined the forum 28 weeks ago according to my profile but have been a guest reader for much longer, my joining had nothing to do with the drum lines and was well before this saga started, Im more of a reader then a poster, I have read lots of useful information from the members here since joining, I didnt post in this thread to argue with anyone, nor did i say wether i was for or against the cull you have just jumped to conclusions so you can start an argument like you said you like to; "At the start i just loved a good debate and arguement", i figured this would be the case from your first two replys anyway.
As i said in my first post i was baffled as to why they did release that particular shark so close, and the only reason i posted it is because i was intrested to hear of peoples opinions and or factual reasons why they do release them so close , its obviously not that obvious that the contractors dont have the facilaties to transport the sharks on their boats, and if you were so cluey on this why didnt you just post that before and inform me? that would have been a constructive piece of information to add and would have answered my question.
For the record, I would rather not see the shark cull happen, but i do understand why they see they need to.
Wes F
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A twist to charter boats
Me thinks that attracting sharks to his boat will increase the danger for all boaties.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/21184043/cull-spawns-shark-seeing-tour/
And knowing where GW's hauntly regularly. Track him out to his secret location ping him and set out some drum lines. (jokie/sarcasm)
Lets see if he can make ends met. All the greenies/shark huggers can book a trip out, sit in a circle looking through the glass and sing cohumbyya.
Old fishermen never die they just smell that way.
dumper
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Pretty sure Colin said 2
Pretty sure Colin said 2 years ago that they'd never allow shark tourism in Western Australia
Wes F
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For cages i.e. SA
Bit hard to stop a operator taking punters out just for a look, there's a few glass boat boat operators along our coastline . Not to sure if he will be allowed to attract sharks to the boat.
Old fishermen never die they just smell that way.
tangles
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pollies
the pollies earn how much money a year and get a generous pay rise every year nearly but no one complains about them ripping the system off! honest person earning an honest living doing what he was bred to do! and that is fish! when its in your blood its in your blood! when an opportunity comes up to fish and someone is going to pay you for it you do it! I think youll find after all the expenses are taken out and tax etc hes not making that much money out of this but enough to keep the bank off his arse for a while!
anyway bring on april so we can talk about something else on here like fishing!! and footy!
kbad
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Anti cull here place is a
Anti cull here place is a bit poorer without the big nasties..
lachieH
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Barnet
Barnet is basically saying LABOUR PLEASE WIN THE NEXT ELECTION BECAUSE I AM CULLING SHARKS!
Fishing the swan for bream, it's just an obsession
PaulS
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Then again you might be
Then again you might be suprised how many people out there support the drum lines. Just because we are not standing on a beach singing songs with rent a crowd doesnt mean we are not here.
EM296
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Agreed
What we have here is a very noisy minority.
Maybe it's time that the silent majority spoke up and let their views be know.
Or maybe they feel too intimidated by the threats of agression from the greeny activists.
Buz
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Noisy Minority? If you are
Noisy Minority? If you are pro drum line/shark cull then stand and be counted then. Let all your friends know that are for it too. Because at the moment just a look at a couple of the petition show a vast difference. Numbers can be discounted for whatever reason, but in the end its still the total numbers that are looked at when it comes to petitions, not who has been signing them or where they are from.
For: 374 signatures
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-our-lives-support-the-wa-governments-shark-policy/signatures.html
Against: 82475 signatures
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-australian-senate-prevent-proactive-killing-of-white-sharks-in-australia-2
Which if you are also on facebook
For: 2654 people
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cull-the-Great-Whites-off-the-WA-coast/236580989732308
Against: 71743 people
https://www.facebook.com/noWAsharkcull
chris raff
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Stand up and be counted why ?
Stand up and be counted why ? the elected government has already made the decision .. lets get back to health , education and crime issues .
“Intelligence is like a four-wheel drive. It only allows you to get stuck in more remote places.”
Buz
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Well just it seems to be a
Well just it seems to be a recurring theme for pro-cull/pro-drumline people to say that the 'majority of people' want this. Yet from everything being projected the majority of people don't support this policy. Look at the petitions I linked above.
Or for a smaller sample, say the surfing community;
For - 1594 people
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SOS-Save-our-Surfers/460635680705005
Against - 3177 people
https://www.facebook.com/surfersagainstsharkculling
And we all know that all any political party really cares about is getting elected/re-elected at the next election, hence they promise the world but deliver far less. For example other 'promises' on more pressing issues as you mentioned. And elections hinge completely on public votes which are inextricably linked to a parties popularity of their policies.
I say be counted because this policy as it stands will only run till the 1st April 2014. So if you want to see drum lines out again next summer(or even an extension past 1st April this year) let your government know, likewise if you are against it let them know.
dowders
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In my opionion online
In my opionion online petitions are bullshit there can be signatures from all over the world from poeple who dont even know where Perth is, im sure sea shepard has a team of people just continually signing up. How about they go and get real signatures on a peice of paper from the poeple of Perth.
petermac
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life long
life long labour voter and I support the cull
pale ale
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Next Time Someone Tells You
Next Time Someone Tells You To Be Afraid Of Sharks, Show Them This...by freddie.rich.965EM296
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An interesting fact........
217 Recorded fatal shark attacks in Australia since 1917.
That works out at 2.237113402061856 fatal shark attacks per year for Australia.
Of these 15 are classed as "Provoked Attacks". Whatever that means.
http://taronga.org.au/animals-conservation/conservation-science/australian-shark-attack-file/latest-figures
I'm on the fence with regard the need for, and effectiveness of, the cull but am very anti the protests. If things carry on like this there will be picket lines at the boat ramps protesting me taking the grandkids out to catch some herring. This is unfortunately the thin end of the wedge as far as I'm concerned.
One of my work collegues suggested they take the names of the protesters and stop their dole money. Then they'd have to get a job like the rest of us and wouldn't have time to protest
HondaHoncho
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Fishing Protests
Protesters carrying on about you catching a few herring, EM296? Don't laugh about it. I've experienced that kind of situation twice in North America. The first occasion occurred in the Okanagan in '95, when I caught a good-sized bass, in water up to my midriff ... and a woman started screaming at me to release it. She then marched up to a teenager's bucket near the lake's edge... and kicked it over, releasing his fish. More recently, I caught a nice salmon in an Alaskan river... and a woman on the opposite bank started shouting "Let it go! You're hurting it! Let it go!!!" She kept this up for a good five minutes, as I then dispatched the fish. These anti-kill protesters (it isn't a cull) are simply anti-hook. Doesn't matter what size the hook is... . (Politically, we're swinging voters... but Barnett got this one right. Our kids come first.)
Redchoppa
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Auto erotic
Auto erotic asphixiation...classic.
Wes F
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Yeh but
it's their territory and we know the risks we take when entering the water, comes the cry from the otherside. (chuckle chuckle)
Old fishermen never die they just smell that way.
Splashback
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cull methods
I agree with all the sentiments about the pro just doing his contract etc. Would be a shame to see misdirected environmentalist anger targeted at him and his equipment.
I think to save a bit more money and make it more newsworthy they should get an ex whaling skinning knife from Albany and dispatch the drum line caught fishes that way. A quick slit from gill to gill will prevent any 'richochet' issues and save the deckies ears if the 308 is the bangstick of choice.
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Auslobster
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Great...
...now I'm scared of vending machines...
thefishwrangler
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how the hell do hot dogs
how the hell do hot dogs kill 70 kids annually? any suggestions :-)
PaulS
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A hot dog truck hit a school
A hot dog truck hit a school bus??
Only 5 deaths from shark attack's, their drum lines must be working
thefishwrangler
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+1 if they are so dangerous,
+1 if they are so dangerous, they could use them as a substitute weapon :-)
Swompa
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I think you are onto
I think you are onto something. Put Hotdogs onto shark hooks!
HondaHoncho
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So Hot They're Glowing...
Might it be true that America has actually found a new way of disposing of nuclear waste?
little johnny
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all a big front
whites moved out of area .water to warm .my bet tigers and bronzies,rest of year maybe odd stray white.they cant be serious ,,,try this in cockburn or warnbro .or yup ville at right time, white white and white..its a joke in my books,
.all greens barking for nothing , my belief full of cr-p. wrong time .as far as catching dolphin on hook ,,makes me wet my pants..
.man shark threads do my head in..l.o.l
sea-kem
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Anyone read Coleen Egans
Anyone read Coleen Egans piece in the paper yesterday (Tuesday)? Pretty good article.
Love the West!
uncle
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is she just another media cretiness
who knows what buttons to push??
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
sea-kem
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Ha ha maybe Uncle, but I was
Ha ha maybe Uncle, but I was impressed that she worked on a fishing boat. She's actually one of the better journos around town.
Love the West!
Bodie
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That Ross Weird peanut was on
That Ross Weird peanut was on the radio a few minutes ago, stating Shark populations in general are in danger from over fishing for Shark fins, especially the black market side.
What a load of crap. Maybe in other countries but not in Australia. He was complaining the government have no factual data on the Great whites, well mate you don't have any factual information on the shark populations along the west Australian coast.
Sharks are in plague proportions, maybe not GW's but bronzies, black tips and so on. Maybe he needs to spend a week fishing out on the barges, or out of Exmouth or Karratha to really understand the shark populations along our coast.
Even spending a little time on fish wrecked looking at the reports the rec anglers put up on shore based shark fishing along the south west.
This is my first post on this topic, but its peanuts like Mr Weir that don't have anything constructive to add to the situation.
axey45
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He's a knob all rite, says
He's a knob all rite, says drum lines not only kill sharks but everthing in the area. He cant even make sense the babling bafoon! Muckin pinhead. Go's out with his mates on a friday nite they wear beanies, he wears a muckin work sock. ya truckin pinhead.
uncle
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another beastie bites the dust
3 metre job dispatched this morning, the gall of that contractor actually turning the boat so the media cockheads could'nt film it and such emphasis on 3 shots being used
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
Bodie
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I would be turning the boat
I would be turning the boat as well. I actually don't agree with any of what happens on the ocean being televised. It does not help the situation one bit.
axey45
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