Election result - and the winner was....
Submitted by hlokk on Tue, 2010-09-07 15:15
Labor.
There you go peoples. It has all been decided now. Windsor and Oakshott sided with Labor forming a Labor minority government.
Finally decided and over (well, still needs to be official perhaps?). But now approximately half of the population will be annoyed, but isnt that the same as any election? Being a minority win though, there should be some interesting consequences that will 'lessen the blow' for any liberal supporters though. Not so easy to pass stuff when you dont have majority, plus the whole shakeup thing.
Well, whatever it means, if you havent allready read it, you now know who won.
(Keep it civil and short on any replies - we all know how these threads can turn out :p )
carnarvonite
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Glad
Glad its finally been decided, maybe now they can get on with running the country and not sucking up to the independents promising them the world.
Myself, I voted Labor because I don't like the sitting member and sadly he got re elected, but thats another story for another day.
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Nobody
I have a bad feeling that it will just end in chaos, supply will be blocked - and we will end up back at the polling booths again.
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Dicey
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elections conspiracy of the
elections conspiracy of the century.
Tony Halliday
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Well Greens have more power
Well Greens have more power than a dictator on an ego rush.
I can see the country folk laughing all the way to the bank, the Greens getting more marine parks and silly lock-up knee-jerks, unions pushing more for crippling conditions on new projects and the looser will be you, me and all the other fisher folks and working class people not in a union job!
So libs coalition got the most votes as primary, but lost in the long run.
All we need is just one dummy spit by Greens or Country member and we back at the polls.....
I can't see this government making three years!
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hlokk
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Riiiiiiiight....... How will
Riiiiiiiight.......
How will a minority party have total dictatorship?
Also, keep in mind, liberals got a million less votes than labor. The coalition more than labor, yes. However, how an Australian election was decided and understood long before this election. We dont just go with a simple majority (feel free to move to a country that does if you dont like it :p). You cant just say we should go with another system when your party would have won some other method of election that we dont use. Tony Abbott conceded and accepted this point. Of course, people didnt complain about the method before the election. If you really had a problem with it you coulda complained at any time (not just when it didnt go your way ;) )
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not 100% true, Libs got
not 100% true, Libs got 700,000 more primary votes than Labor. I'd like to see the final counts and who actualy got the most, cause it looks more and more like libs won the primary vote and dam close on second pref's, but still lost the game.
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hlokk
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Actually Liberal got a
Actually Liberal got a million less than Labor. The Coalition got more.
And the Australian system is not a first past the post system. Every politician knew it, both before and after. Whoever gets the most total votes doesnt determine who gets in (due to it all being seat based). Theres a million different ways you can skin it after the fact, but if you had a problem, you coulda said it before your party didnt get in :p
wazzbat
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Oh Dear!
Gillard is celebrating like she won a Grand Final. She is the Steve Bradbury of the politician world! Australia didn't vote her in. Australia didn't vote anyone in. The whole thing is an abortion and I don't think it would have mattered who got in. Either way we were going to end up with a shithouse government!
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FreoBear
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Winners ?????????????????
One answer - NO ONE!!..........Oh just a minute the Polies!!!
lurcha
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well at least my job will be
well at least my job will be stable!! got shafted big time when libs were in and we had to do our work place agreement. its coming up again and this time at least we will get something from the company!!
MattMiller
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Hooray
Living in a safe Liberal (Forrest) seat run by a moron, i'm glad that she wont be making any big decisions on my behalf.
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Coalition won 700000 more votes
Won more seats and get shafted be two morons. I can only hope for another election soon and hopefully the greens-alp coalition will be seen for what they really are.
hlokk
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You could blame Abbott for
You could blame Abbott for not presenting a convincing argument enough to sway them
They were capable of swinging either way.
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Uncle
Don't forget to let Uncle know your a rabid labor man Hlokk.
;)
LOL
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hlokk
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Rabid labor man? Thats news
Rabid labor man? Thats news to me
Just trying to counteract bias (from both sides actually).
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?
Riiiiiiiiiiight!
Should be a good conversation. PMSL
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WooHoo my team won, well
WooHoo my team won, well done Labor
Bring on April
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I hear ya Simo
big john
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Haha
Now that's good comedy. Be able to hang your hat on that later to!;)
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Dicey
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actually tony abbot stood
actually tony abbot stood true and didnt sway, while the gillard group were willing to change their regulations and policy at a drop of a hat, that is not a good government, thats the tell tale sign of a bunch of sell outs.
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Yep Gillard was told do
Yep Gillard was told do whatever it takes, get ready for the whore party and the commencement of paybacks.... and lots of whining from those she re-negs on
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celebrate
funny how you celebrate losing 17 seats or there abouts,we will be going back soon
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MattMiller
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Waste of time,
I give it 12months max. Surely they'll knock heads on something and the whole thing will fall apart and off to the polls we go.....again.
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Waste of time
Not sure what you mean about that mate. One thing has been made clear is that stability and longetivity of gov't is a key element of what has gone on. If the "prositutes" stick to their words and the government does the same then we should have a very positive path to move on from this debarkle.
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Stoinka
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well said
Here here
wazzbat
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"Prostitutes stick tp their
"Prostitutes stick tp their words"?????
They aren't capable of such a task! I've never heard anything so rediculous. "Stick to their words" LOL!
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maybe a female leader is
maybe a female leader is what we need instead of some macho ego boosted male. im not a fan of either of them but gillard is the lesser of the 2 evils
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its a debacle and bloody
its a debacle and bloody laughable,, hey that almost rhymes maybee i should run for govenment..
uncle
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the first lie
wasn't she only moving in to the PMs house if she won in her own right!!!!!!!
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till
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No, it was if she won an
No, it was if she won an election, ie; not after Rudd was deposed.
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The greens are the do
The greens are the do gooders trying to make it illegal to fish here by sanction zoning pretty much all of WA and there in bed with labour so that speeks for itself. If labour and the greens get there way this site will be a thing of the past. At least it was good while it lasted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MattMiller
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What about
the 3 'Independants'? haha
meersy
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More like the three stooges:)
More like the three stooges:)
MattMiller
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Well...
consider yourself 'Stooged'!
Might as well get used to it.
Tony Halliday
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first bun fights already on
first bun fights already on thecards, with Swan saying the mining tax is a no go for tax reform discussions! That was one of the two independants lists of things, the review of ALL the Henry Tax Reform details, including mining tax!
so who is going to win round one?
The Greens & Labor...pro mining tax?
or Country Conservatives... anti mining tax?
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The return of the "Ginger Ninja"
We basically have a political assasin as the countries leader. And if she could only change that whinning noise she calls talking.
The 2 "Conservative" independants have just signed their own Political demise. Who in their electorates would vote them back in.
At least Katta stood up for what he fundamentally believe in.
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MattMiller
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So,
if they sided with the coalition then everything would be rosy and their electorite would vote them straight in in the next election??? Come on.
Damned if they did and Damned if they didn't i'm afraid.
crasny1
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Certainly
They are from argueably the 2 most conservative seats in the country.
Easy to say come on. But the margins in those seats towards conservatives is massive, labor doesnt even have candidates in the seats often, rather spending money on winable seats.
Now if you are conservative, and your electorate is, how would you feel towards a member that sided with the opposite side of the fence so to speak.
Doesn't take a brain surgeon to conclude what the outcome might be.
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hlokk
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In their electorates, some
In their electorates, some 70%+ said they would support siding with the government that would be the best for the country, despite that most of them were conservative/Liberal.
You can argue that the independants made the wrong choice for whatever reasons, but the majority of their electorate was not against their decisions (even if there were more conservatives in the seat)
Edit: 55% said they would prefer the independents to back Liberal (so just over half), while 77% said they would prefer the independents to act in the national interest rather than their own seats:
"An overwhelming majority also want their Independents to act in the national interest - 77 per cent - rather than trying to extract deals to favour their own seats."
So slightly over half wanted Abbott, but almost 4/5 would prefer what was best for the nation. The independents chose what they thought was best for the nation. Whether that was a good decision or not is a different question of course, but the vast majority of their electorate preferred the solution best for the nation (not sure if there are any new polls which say they are happy with it now or not).
Also, if you wanted Abbott in, then having Labor form a minority government is much better than having Labor win majority government, so not 'as bad' as a normal election loss (but never as good as a full election win of course :p)
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For the good of the nation????
They are attacking the fundamental industry that have driven the country to prosperity, and kept the country ticking over the GFC in the best shape off almost all nations.
Some would say the stim package had a lot to do, but in Karratha the GFC was evident for one week, with the ships all waiting on the horizon to fill with Fe ore, and then they just kept coming as usual.
Pluto Phase 2 on hold, Rio cutting back on contractors.
If you pinch mining to much we will see a difference in the prosperity. The sentiment around here is not at all positive. Everyone hanging out to see what will happen.
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hlokk
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They chose what they thought
They chose what they thought was for the good of the nation, and their constituents backed them choosing on that basis.
As I mentioned, whether the decision was actually for the good of the nation is a completely different issue. I'm not making any statements as to what was actually the better decision. Two independents were convinced that Labor was the better choice however (for whatever reasons, and whether they were right or wrong).
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Only time will tell
Cheers Matt
Neels
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Indiana
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Backstabbing Red Headed Clown
Gillard is a back stabbing red headed clown ,put there by the unions and a failed electoral system.
Only consolation is that the independents that put her there will no doubt return the favour and knife the labour party ..........then run back to their roots .
" IF YOUR NOT GOING TO EAT IT ......PUT IT BACK WHERE YOU CAUGHT IT"
Leemo
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Indiana. why is it a failed
Indiana. why is it a failed electoral system? im pretty sure our electoral system is one of the most stable and simple in the world. anyone who cant understand our system deserves a slap on the back of the head. it has its negatives, like everything though. positives far outweigh negs. are you just saying its failed because the leader you voted for didnt get in? may i remind you that you vote the party, not the representative. let me put this to you. if the Coalition was elected in, and Abbot turned out to be a disgrace and a poor excuse for a leader, they would do much the same as Gillard and the party did to Rudd. Just take a look at whenever an opposition leader or member dosnt do their job or isnt 'good enough', they get 'knifed' if you may, or shafted from leadership. just sayin'.
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Indiana
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Have a look at it !
I'm sorry Leemo ...... Rudd was elected Prime Minister by the people of this country.
Nobody should have the right to remove him from office other than the people who put him there or the queens representative (Governor General ).
The opposition of the day can do what they bloody like as they are not in government ,but once you are in ......your in and the unions had no right to install their red headed muppet as my prime minister.
In addition people under the age of 25 shouldn't be able to vote ,as MOST dont care and have no idea about the issues.
There should be no compulsory voting .
And one vote one value .......there should be no preferences.
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hlokk
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Actually, our voting system
Actually, our voting system does not work that way. We vote for a party, not a PM (or a local member). The party has a leader, who then becomes PM. When you voted, you voted for Labor/Liberal/etc not Gillard/Abbott/etc.
Also, i'm sure that applies for most people of any age, not just 'young-uns'.
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I agree "one vote one value
I agree
"one vote one value .......there should be no preferences. "
voting is like marriage, you get one chance to say I do and no second chances on the bridesmaids on the day...
cause thats what happening, the bridesmaids are dictating to the groom who he gets tonight!
In a "no majority seat" situation, the people with the most votes take the leadership for governing ( none of this crap horse trading), this one we got is as bad as when Al Gore got shafted in the USA also with a failed system. Problem is these systems are so entranched they almost impossible to change without a revolution. And that does not happen in the first world countries anymore.
Also 3 years between party fights, means nothing gets done, as you in for a setteling year, one year to do things and the next to plan for the next fight. We need five year fixed terms and none of this early call cr@p. After two 5 year terms, the PM steps aside and lets the next PM from the winning party ( be it their own or the other) take the reins. This way you WILL get longer term goals achieved and stop the dead wood like Howard holding onto the reins for too long. We need a system of fresh blood every ten years at the top and a way fo achieving major long term projects with out the next bunch of looneys changing the goal posts, and playing fields every 3 years. If the independants wanted to really change the way we governed, those are the points we should be seeing on a list, not 4 minute talk time and tripe like that.
just my 3 cents worth.
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Leemo
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dont you think that people
dont you think that people 'under the age of 25' should have a choice if they want to vote? i am 16 myself, and i care just as much as you guys about our government and the affairs of this country. i repeat myself when i say PARTY NOT REPRESENTATIVE! nobody voted in Rudd. they voted in the Labor Party and he just happened to be leader at the time. they have full permission to do what they need to keep their party accountable.
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uncle
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question time
if oahshot and brown nose get portfolios[ as suggested by media and a pay rise of 40 50k[not sure what it is] do they keep there integrity??????
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trailcraft_tony
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just to throw another oar in
just to throw another oar in the water I'm sure it wasn't that long ago that the local liberal government sold out to country seats to form a government over in WA.
And its always a know fact that whatever local government is here it is always the opposite in federal.
crasny1
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Secession
Lets do away with the eastern states and we would all be rich in WA!!!!!
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hlokk
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Isnt there a clause in the
Isnt there a clause in the constitution that says we could do that? Something to do with it being part of the deal to get us to accept in the first place?
Though, if they were to actually do it, i'm sure the backlash from the eastern states would ruin us anyways. Would be much better to just get more share of the profit we create...if only that was easy.
Though, would still be interesting to live in the Republic of Westralia :p
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I would love to live in the
I would love to live in the Rupublic of WA. There would be nothing better.
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Thumbs up to that idea Neels
Imagine not having to pay any taxes any more to keep those bludgers in Canberra in clover.
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Yip
Wont be Royalties for region, will be Royalties for WA. Oil, Gas, Fe, Salt, Gold, Nickel, Mineral sands, tin, lead and Uranium. Stop the Greens from blocking that one, which will be the next big Money spinner with more and more Nuke plants. Cleaner than coal, just have to watch the Long Island meltdown stuff.
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Indiana
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If we could please !
Now your talking lets cut the east loose ! haha
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I suspect that the thought off Secession might be more popular
here in WA than most people realise. Protect our great coastline from the Greens and Pew.
LOL
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HAHA Hutt river province.
HAHA Hutt river province. It's still there and he's still the king I think.
Love the West!
Cammos
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On the upside I had $10 on
On the upside I had $10 on Gillard to be the next PM. Turned out to be a good bet.
wazzbat
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Gillard and Swan already
Gillard and Swan already doing backflips! What a surprise. They should join a circus! They gave their word to Windsor that they would hold back on the Mining Tax until after a Tax Summit but now they're saying that they are pressing full steam ahead with the tax!!! Bend over West Australians - I hope everyone is ready to take it up the ass! "We're gonna reach up there, grab us much as we can then spread it evenly over in the eastern states. YeeHa!!!"
WA is screwed!!!
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about time a labour/greens coalition
i dont think wa is screwed with the mining tax,in fact i think its a good thing,how many times have i read in the paper about the profits ,the mining companies are making,and every buisiness pays tax and gst that good old jonny brought in with the help of the nationals,that got the liberal party in a few years ago. mr costello wasnt happy last week about labour/greens coalition,so i guess we have to wait and see,how the new labour minority goverment will govern
wazzbat
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The miners already pay the
The miners already pay the same amount of company tax as every other company out there does plus they pay 7% royalties on top of that. How much more do you want them to pay? This is not only going to affect the miners but also the businesses that deal with the miners. It will all flow down the line.
When I first heard about the tax, I was all for it but I have since learnt a bit more about it and it is not good for WA. Don't you think it's funny that the biggest three mining companies agreed to the deal but every other company opposes it??? It is going to affect the funding that the small/medium companies need to get future projects off the ground. The bigger miners don't have the same problems with finding funds.
Plus I think it is a pretty piss poor way to govern. "MMmm. We aren't very good at using tax payers money. It keeps dissapearing. I know - Let's just get some more money from somewhere??? Let's flog the crap out of the mining companies. Then we can spend money willy nilly like on the national broadband plan" (which by the way is estimated to cost tax payers $5000 per person to put in place!!!) What a huge waste of money. By the time they finish the thing, it will probably be outdated anyway and we'll have to start again.
And I use to vote labour. Gillard is a joke!!!
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hlokk
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Oh, really?
Oh, really?
uncle
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right on
your right on with those comments
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out wide
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It took about two and a half years
before we all work rudd the dud out, i recon silly gilly and her mate bob the nob will come clean much sooner than that.
joe amato
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40 billion blackhole in the liberal costings aint bad
gee ,every1 forgot about abotts 40 billion blackhole in his costings,he objected 4 a while ,he had more to hide than he let on,happy the liberal coalition party didnt get in
Rod P
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Joe i like to look at a
Joe i like to look at a mining tax like this. Take the shopping center here in Joondalup. Huge at the moment and everyone is happy. Lets say the local joondalup council decides to put a super profits tax onto a big portion of the business in the center. What do you think will happen to those business effected? I can guess. They'll shut down and take the business some where else were they are appreciated for what they are doing.
Thats exactly what will happen to the mining industry. SO now all the people who depended on those local business are now going to suffer.
Honestly i can't see why this concept is so hard to understand.
What frightens me is why are Labour so hell bent on getting this done quick smart? My guess is we are serously out of money and if this dosn't get of the ground then as a country we are screwed and you and i are about to get a tax increase just like the miners.
hlokk
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But those shops arent taking
But those shops arent taking a non-renewable resource out of commonwealth land are they? If some mining types will be completely exhausted in 20 years what will happen then? Its a finite resource, not a permananent one. Not saying I agree on the tax, but just pointing out the critical difference.
(I think the mines lease not own the land but may be wrong?)
Tony Halliday
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you know in 100 years time
you know in 100 years time we still be finding new resources and minerals, we hardly scratched the surface of iron ore in Australia and other minerals.
The bigger fear I have we sit on these minerals and then they crash in price in future and you stick with a load of worthless dirt that could have been cash in the bank.
A country only grows by digging it out and selling it
or importing it and making it into something better
or if so really smart, digging it up, making something out of it and then selling it off....
We not dealing with oil and gas here, minerals are lot different at they pretty much in large volumes all over the world.
whats seems to dum fold me is we sit on them at peak prices, when in ten years time huge volumes of Africa will be open for export and our dirt won't be worth the penny's we would be digging it for.... mark my words.
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Indiana
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correct
Yes the company holds a lease over the land to conduct there business .
They pay the state government royalties (because WA owns the resource ).
They pay the federal government company tax (and or) now super profits tax .
Think this is the deal
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Rod P
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My point is still that the
My point is still that the government will now make no money from them..Thats like saying we should put a super profits tax on fisherman, or farmers?
When we go back in to a Global recesion witch is not that far out an idea we wont have them to pull us out a whole. We will loss what we are currently getting. Look at Ravensthorpe. The mining company pulled out and the town ship is destroyed..