Essendon and Hird's case against AFL ADSA investigation thrown out
Submitted by Paul H on Fri, 2014-09-19 16:20
Guess Hirdy is now regretting prematurely thanking the judge for a fair trial
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dark days ahead for the EFC
should Jobe Watson keep his Brownlow, or be stripped of it?
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Can of worms , should Benny
Can of worms , should Benny keep his brownlow or be stripped of it .. Problem is he’s most probably hocked it already anyway lol .
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never had performance
never had performance inhancing drugs but
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bang on gilly.......wasnt
bang on gilly.......wasnt peformancing enhancing. As bad as the addiction and drug use was, in a way the way he tore up the leauge for years, he should be commended. (and no im not condoning it, i am just saying)
If any one knows anything about meth...it generally destorys you very very quickly.
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What do you boys define
What do you boys define stimulants such as Coke , Ice , Speed etc as non performance enhancing .. , you boys need to get out more lol .
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Allowed him to train at super human level, nah, not performance enhancing. James Hird would agree with you boys.
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your kidding rite, ive known
your kidding rite, ive known a two blokes in the past ( choose not to know them now ) that were completly incapable of simple conversation after a night on speed, to think ice or speed were making cousins play better is simply foolish
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EH?
I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.
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walk through n-bridge on fri
walk through n-bridge on fri night and see what speed and ice does, suprised cousins didnt knife someone on the field
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Strength levels
How many nurses, orderlies etc are needed to hold these ice addicts down when they get taken to hospital?
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how would thrashing around
how would thrashing around like a maniac help a person play football, these people are out of control with no clue were they are or who they are, it has no comparison to PERFORMANCE inhancing drugs
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They are only thrashing around because they don't want to restrained, not because the ice is causing that physical reaction. JMO gillyL, if you want to keep Ben on a pedestal that's fine.
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never once said he should be
never once said he should be on a pedastal ( typical pie supporter ) thats someone elses argument. my thoughts are he is in a different ball game to the PERFORMANCE INHANCING DRUG CHEATS that are essendon. also just my opinion big john.
might want to keep a close eye on swan heading down the same path
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Hahaha
That last sentence is one of the poorest attempts at a troll I've seen on here. How's the bourbon flowing?
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hhahahaha beers good, swan
hhahahaha beers good, swan seems to hang around the wrong crowd thats were cousins started, just saying
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Chris mate, Coke is
Chris mate,
ha Coke is completely different to meth....i am sorry, you are completely wrong. If you actuely think years and years of meth addiction is perfomance enhancing and he did it for perfomacing enhancing reason...well i think you need to get out more and see the reality of it.
lol.
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and coke was his drug of
and coke was his drug of choice back in his heyday .. that’s well documented by him and it is a stimulant . Don’t really give a rats left teste about the bloke so won't be going tic for tac about it with you . It's barlese from me
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Chris...not wanting to go
Chris...
not wanting to go tac to tac just wanting to put out some facts... coke was not his drug off choice dude...METH was.... have you seen his documentaries or the 100s of memes with the glass pipe...that is what you smoke meth from dude.. if your thinking about crack cocaine, that is a completely different drug manufactured in America and rarely here when you have ice/meth and coke as seperate forms of drugs.
coke you snort.
and no even it was coke , it is not perfomance enhancing mate. Did michael johnson get done for perfoamcning enhancing when he got caught by police? no he didnt. he got a suspenion for being in posession of illicit drugs not perofmancing enhancing. there are major differences between perofmance enhancing ro illicit. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ben-cousins-hid-drugs-inside-body-20120329-1vzdf.html just have a read mate
sorry mate you are way way off the ball here, sorry i dont like people saying WC were using peroformance enhancing drugs, when the reality is people have no idea. You can all you want regarding the cup being tainted due to illicit drugs, but performance enhancing. no not coping that.
i have no idea where you get the coke from...... it was meth
truce to mate.
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havent got a great deal of sympathy
what Ben Cousins did was the result of addiction , what Essendon did was the systematic doping of its players , with out the players knowing they were being given a dodgy drug , what should happen is the whole board of Essendon should be sacked and James Hird banned from every footy ground in Australia , the same way they sound of a dodgy horse trainer from race tracks
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The golden boy hird
Nothing but a cheating prick, should never coach again
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agreed, hate to think were
agreed, hate to think were he came up with the idea to juice his boys, surely not from sheedy
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totally agree with you , as cransy 1 said in earlier posts on this subject how would you feel if it was your son given a drug with out knowing the long term affects by a footy club , if it was me and he did that to my son I would extracting my pound of flesh from james hird ( cant bring myself to use capital letters for his name now) he realy makes me want to vomit not a essendon fan but he has brought that great club to its knees and total disgrace
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No wonder Juddy pissed off
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and back on subject: cant
and back on subject:
cant see essendon letting hird coach now....they would be stupid to do so. Especially if they appeal and loose again.
as uncle said...the golden boy of essendon should be banned from the AFL for along time.
Essendon will be in all sorts. no team will want their players knowing they could be suspended.....
i find it weird zarcharikis or what ever his name is declined to take any part in it. good on him and good choice by him but why didnt the other players stand up for themselves
hm...
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hird
shouldn't just be banned , should be never allowed with 100m of any footy club , he has damaged the whole AFL credibility , seem to remember Ben Cousins being banned for binging the game into disrepute , what hird has done is far more serious
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makes me wonder
wonder what gear hird was on when he won his brownlow
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Guns back in the holsters for
Guns back in the holsters for now boys. In the interests of actual fatcs Essendon players have not been found guilty of doping just yet. The court case was about the legality of the investigation - that has been decided now that all was above board. Now they will respond to the show cause notices then the process will continue. We are still a little way off any findings of guilt.
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Did Jobe Watson not admit to taking a banned substance
timmbo? And other Essendon players as i understand it?
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He admitted to using AOD9604
He admitted to using AOD9604 - They were also told by ASADA that they would not be pursuing this drug use as an anti doping violation due to the advice given at the time it was used. Thats why the show cause notices have nothing to do with AOD9604.
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Ok, thanks for clarifying that Timmbo.
we shall see how it all pans out I guess :).
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The court case was a bit of a
The court case was a bit of a free hit really - they decided to challenge the process to attempt to have the whole thing quashed before the evidence is tested. It really is a bit of a nothing result, ASADA didnt win anything and Essendon simply lost its chance to end it before it began. It just delayed the process but was a chance essendon decided to take.
The real interest will be when the players answer the allegations against them.
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Free hit?
Up for $1,000,000 in court costs I believe.
The arrogance of Hird is unbelievable, totally farked the club and if he stays he'll be a constant reminder of it.
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Agree
with you there BJ, arrogance personified. Even after the ruling yesterday, his comment was " I'm sorry for the players". It's still like he's an outsider looking in.
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I read somewhere this morning that the Essendon horse has fallen and lost it's Ryder.
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Boom tish
I'll pay that one Dale.
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The difference between
The difference between Cousins and Essendon is that they deliberately set out to enhance themselves. Cousins was just a junkie. I think Essendon will sweep the floor and get rid of Hird and anyone associated with this saga. Foolish if they don't as they will be letting down the fans if they don't. I don't really care what they inject illegal or not that's to be decided and penalties handed out, it was the culture of the whole affair that stinks. And Hird still believing he's done nothing wrong, I actually can't believe he hasn't had his head punched in by some of the players. Anyway it's time for them to move on,and accept what ever judgement comes their way. It's in the interest of the game.
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Hope the club has deep
Hope the club has deep pockets , because if the players are banned there could be a massive lawsuit being served .
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