fish id
Submitted by tangles on Sat, 2015-11-07 12:35
hey guys n gals. Mates been cliff hopping ngetting into these up to 10kg. Just an id would be great.
Iinitially thought little YTK but not sure or amber jack.
Tks tanglesI
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Meeuwissen
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I think...
amberjack but then there are so many different kinds of trevallys. I looked on the Australian museum site but they didn't have it on there.
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axey45
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+2Amber
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Amber
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I'm going YTK
I'm going YTK
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Dale
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My money is on a amberjack, the fin ray count is the give away. 29-35 is the magic number and looking at the picture, it appears to be all of that.
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dumper
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Amber
Amber
vinniefisho
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looks like an amberjack to
looks like an amberjack to me
opsrey
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Amber for me
good on the plate too
tangles
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roja
roja. Tks guys. Well looks like its down the cliffs for me to get into a few of these n give the salt a good workout!
Give the mullas a break for a bit!
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Hey Stevo
That looks like a good book you have there. mind sharing?
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lawndered
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Thanks
Hi Stevo
Tanks for that
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Prob doing on phone
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looks like a YTK to me?
looks like a YTK to me?
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Amberrr
Amberrr
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No clue, going on shape
No clue, going on shape looks like a YTK but on colouration looks like an amber
tangles
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mixa!!!
well we all knw the family love history from the area up here maybe a ytk and an amber did the funky monkey n this what came out!!!
ChrisG
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Amber
Amber
oz74
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Bludger
I'll go Bludger Trevally..?
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MattMiller
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Amber
just looks like a nice clean Amber to me.
beau
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I thought it was pretty
I thought it was pretty straight forward aswell? Doesn't look like any ytk ive caught before..
carnarvonite
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YTK
YTK for me
marble
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Amberjack for sure
Amberjack for sure
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Shame you couldn't get it up
Shame you couldn't get it up to some sunlight, might've helped. I reckon Amber too.
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sexton
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Amber with out a doubt.
Amber with out a doubt.
burnz
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At a glance looks like a
At a glance looks like a bludger trevally..
Boydy
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Surprised at the calls of
Surprised at the calls of Bludger from crew in the know....
AJ for my money.
burnz
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Ive never seen an amberjack
Ive never seen an amberjack so small and lightly coloured, id believe you guys calling amberjack.
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Looking at a photo of a
Looking at a photo of a bludger, looks like the bottom and top fins are different.
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Pec fins different
Pec fins different
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Shu
Not easy! Going purely on the count and lack of colour (yellow) anywhere in the picture Im with the Ambers. But That is the most YFK-looking amber I have ever seen.
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YTK
Head ad shoulders are too narrow for an amber ad YTK loose their colour quickly once they come out of the water.
Seen heaps over the years and am in no doubt on this one
Boydy
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Think I've done my money
After closer inspection and looking at other photos of ambers I've caught, recon your right Carnarvonite.
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Got any more photos?
Got any more photos?
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amberjack
This is considered the only way to determine the difference
"The most efficient way of determining the difference between all three is to conduct a dorsal ray count on the second or rear dorsal fin of each species with Amberjack having 29 – 35, Samson fish 23 – 25 and Yellow tail kings 31 – 34. Dorsal rays are the soft, vertical lines which run through a fish’s dorsal fin. Amberjack also have a distinctive gold band running horizontally across the body of the fish and larger scales than Samson fish. The head shape of an Amberjack is also slightly different to that of a Samson fish."
I count 30 dorsal ray which confirms what I already thought an Amberjack, the angle of the photo coming from the top makes the head look skinnier and I have never seen a YTK without a yellow caudal fin. I reckon fishing north of Geraldton I have caught 3 ambers to every sambo they are prolific up that way
tangles
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nah
Nah he was by himself n was getting dark so only had that photo. Ill try get dwn to the spot n give em a crack n get sum photos.
Personally think its an inbred amber/ytk!!!!!!
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Thats what I reckon
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They breed em funny up your
They breed em funny up your way eh Tangles
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tangles
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yep
I think the fish are reliving the swinging80's like the 2 legged versions used too mate!!
The cry anything goes!!! Is being spread thru the fish species now!!
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YTK
YTK
Fishin for a feed and fun.
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Amberjack
I'd call this an Amberjack Seriola dumerili. the most important feature is the shape of the supramaxilla (the flange at the back of the upper jaw). Broad in this fish compared to YTK, which is much narrower - see photo. Also body shape, colour, colour of fins and fin tips, tail size, fin length, all point to Amberjack for me.
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I think once people notice
I think once people notice the angle the photo was taken on they'll realise the difference it has made on the shape of the fish