Fisheries doing a good job
Headed out from Two Rocks yesterday at gentelmans hours and headed up to Moore river for a bit. The river mouth must be open with a big splume of dirty water out to 3 mile.
Had a shocking day with just a few fish released due to size. The friendly fisheries blokes stopped by to check out the bait esky (as the fish esky was empty) and all was good.
On our return to the marina the fisheries were checking catches at the ramp. Well there were a few boats there so we hung out in the marina to wait our turn and while tonking around i spotted a pretty big Dhuie carcas that someone had tossed in the marina. As it came alongside us we realized it was a whole fish. Well our esky was empty so we grabbed it. A still cold from the esky 5kg dhu. Looks like someone was not following the rules and decided to drop it in when they saw the fisheries guys.
If you know who it was thank them for me.
Merv
Sometimes when the water is quiet, you can hear the fish laughing at you !
Deckie
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Great luck for you but it
Great luck for you but it shows there is still a few folks out there that are doing the wrong thing.
Pity they didn't get caught, my feeling is they will continue to do it as they have probably been doing it for a while .
Cheers & Stay safe
Shepheard
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Well done Merv,Good
Well done Merv,Good score.
Wen't out yesterday myself and caught 6 Dhuie's all size accept one,all realesed accept one,which was 10.5 kgs and a big sambo relesed.
The fishing has improved since the closed season's have come in,and should get better if people do the right thing.Just greed i think, or maybe they can't count.
Deleted
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Great day. I saw you on
Great day. I saw you on ocean reef Rd heading to marina while I was headed to work bastard
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Pretty sure fisheries dump
Pretty sure fisheries dump illegal catch back in the water. Hopefully they got caught and that Dhu was from the disposal
Madmerv
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Dhu
Be a damn shame to waste a nice fish like that Dhu. You would think that if they didnt want it themselves then they could give it to other fisherman that didnt have a full boat.
Yeah they did board us at sea West Coast. That has happened to me over the years from rotto to two rocks and even once out at the abrolos.
And it didnt appear to have severe barotrauma as the eyes were clear but you never know. Still the rules say only 2 so even if you bring it up dead you have to throw it back.
Sometimes when the water is quiet, you can hear the fish laughing at you !
West Coast
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Dhu
Yeah I was only joking about barotrauma...as in they released it into the harbour and it didn't make it. Bad joke. I apologise.
The fisheries that boarded us were from Lancelin. Covering some miles.
Deleted
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Can't keep the catch can't
Can't keep the catch can't give it away but i have definitely seem them throw fish of the jetty.
scottnofish
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fishireies have to keep the confiscated fish
Until youve been convicted as evidence. They wont throw dead fish back in the water.they will throw live crays or abs back as they have a chance of survival.
West Coast
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Crazy...
Who brings whole fish in...we always fillet ours!!
Perhaps it had barotrauma.
As far as I know fisheries take illegal fish and give away to pensioners and the like. Crays are different as they are still alive. I have seen them thrown back in.
Did fisheries board you at sea? We got boarded a few weeks ago just north of Seabird, and about 10 miles out. The fisheries certainly getting around.
dano83
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Can you fillet at sea I was
Can you fillet at sea I was under the impression it was not allowed ?
D_d_001
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you can fillet at sea as long
you can fillet at sea as long as you leave the skin on (for id) and must be a min size of 30cm fillets
unless it's a fish that has a max take size ..then it has to be left whole.
but ....bugger that fish on the water...fillet at home.
think you have to have been out for 48 hrs as well.
dano83
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Cheers
Cheers
Rob H
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not correctDD was right
not correct
DD was right except for the 48hrs thing, not sure where you got that from
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Everyone's just winging it.
D_d_001
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yeah you could be right there
yeah you could be right there Rob....was the only thing I wasn't sure about. filleting at sea is not something I do unless it's getting eaten out there.
It may have been an old ruling
Edit: found this on my PC under "fishing" file think it came from fisheries ruling but cant seem to find it on the website now....it may just be outdated but something that I wouldn't mind fining out for sure.
14. Person on a boat not to be in possession of filleted fish - recreational fishing
(1) A person -
(a) on a boat must not be in possession of a fish other than a whole fish; or
(b) must not bring ashore a fish other than a whole fish.
(2) For the purposes of subregulation (1), the master of a boat on which there is a fish other than a whole fish is, in the absence of proof to the contrary, to be taken to be in possession of that fish.
(3) Subregulation (1) -
(a) does not apply to, and in respect of, fish taken for a commercial purpose in accordance with an authorisation; and
(b) is subject to regulations 15, 16, 16A, and 16B.
Penalty: $3 000 and the penalty provided in section 222 of the Act. [Regulation 14 inserted in Gazette 1 Oct 2003 p. 4285-6.]
...
bla bla bla...goes on about shark trunks etc.
then the main exemptions
16B. Exception to regulation 14 - extended trips
(1) Despite regulation 14, a person may be in possession of, or bring ashore, a fillet of fish in a boat in WA waters if -
(a) the person has been at sea, or on any island within WA waters, continuously for at least 48 hours without returning to the mainland;
(b) the skin and scales are attached to each fillet;
(c) each fillet is at least 300 mm in length;
(d) each fillet is individually packaged flat;
(e) each fillet is packaged so that it is easily accessible for measurement and identification; and
(f) where the fish is frozen, it can be measured and identified without being thawed.
(2) For the purposes of subregulation (1)(a), a person on a boat is to be taken to have been at sea, or on any island within WA waters, continuously for less than 48 hours without returning to the mainland in the absence of proof to the contrary.
(3) A person who undertakes a sea voyage referred to in subregulation (1)(a) and fishes while on that voyage is to keep a record of that voyage including details of -
(a) the place and time that the voyage commences;
(b) the period of time the boat is at sea without returning to the mainland;
(c) the route taken on the voyage;
(d) the places where the boat has stopped, and the dates of each stop and the length of time each stop has taken; and
(e) the place and time that the voyage ends.
(4) A person who undertakes a sea voyage referred to in subregulation (1)(a) must -
(a) record the details referred to in subregulation (3) during the sea voyage;
(b) keep a record made under this regulation for a period of 6 months after the voyage has ended; and
(c) not make an entry or statement that is false or misleading in a material particular in a record kept under this regulation.
Penalty: $5 000. [Regulation 16B inserted in Gazette 1 Oct 2003 p. 4287-8.]
scottnofish
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old rules
You can now fillet at sea .everyone should who has a fishing license should recieve a new rules book every year they always highlight all the changes in rules i t pays to look at it every year as there have been new rules and chages every year for the last 5 years
D_d_001
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yep edit number 2 Had a bit
yep edit number 2
Had a bit of a search and it looks like the above "filleting at sea" rules were thrown out with the simplification of the rec fishing rules in 2013.
So as you say Rob no having to be out 48 hrs.
:)
Rob H
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Yeah ive had one or 2
Yeah ive had one or 2 "discussions" with WAF at the ramp about it.
Its certainly worth being up to speed on those sort of rules as you cant count on individual FOs to know.
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
dano83
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Sweet I only vaguely
Sweet I only vaguely remembered reading about the no fillet rule only after 48 hours.. Was doing trips to dhi.. that's why I asked. Normally bring whole fish home when doing day trips metro.
thanks for the clarification it wil defiantly stop conflict between boaties and fisheries being more simplified
Rob H
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Shark Bay has (or had)
Shark Bay has (or had) different rules for filletting etc and Im not familiaar with them, best check up to be sure
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The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
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Peko
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Spotted a couple of good size snapper on the bottom as I pulled into the ramp at Woodman Point a couple of weeks ago. Clearly been flicked out of a boat. What's left of one was still there yesterday getting the final work over by the crabs.
Meeuwissen
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they defiantly don't throw away dhuies
The pensioners get them
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little johnny
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Fisheries and friendly
Don't go together
Walfootrot
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lol how is your mate going
lol how is your mate going John?
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
sea-kem
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Had a good discussion with
Had a good discussion with them at Gnaraloo about bait distinction from catch. Very informative, need to be very careful with any fish that is not commercially packaged as bait as it goes on your possession limit.
Love the West!
meglodon
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Definitely (excuse the pun) food for thought
Definitely some thing that you should keep in mind about what's bait and what's not.
The consequences of not clearly defining whats whats could be expensive.
scotto
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up to no good
I can almost guarantee the dhu was dumped by someone who was over their dhu limit. Pretty shit really.
As scottnofish said, fisheries keep any confiscated fish until after prosecution (or you pay your fine ), and then the fish is "destroyed". They generally arent given away, although i have seen a commercial seizure (a few hundred kgs of undersize skippy) been donated to the good sammys in the eastern states.
You definately can fillet at sea, and its been like that for at least 2-3 years. Fillets must be skin on and over 30cms. Fish with max size are exempt.
I admit the fishing regs in wa are sometimes hard to interpret, but its every fisher persons obligation to fully understand them, and the repurcusions of not following them.
Meeuwissen
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spoken like a true fisheries officer
;)
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