Gaff the grub

Well, it only takes one act to become a grub.

Fu* me, what a brain fade and an absolute showing of poor character.

Rub this grub out for the entire year.

An example needs to be made.

Unfortunately for Andrew Gaff your reputation is *ukd.


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 his final present to the

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 his final present to the wegirls fans... KOing a docker

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 That was just a friendly Gaff sandwich from Ryan and Johnson, nothing to see there.

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I'd be pretty pissed off if I

Sun, 2018-08-05 21:05

I'd be pretty pissed off if I was a wc supporter, pretty much your best player rubbed out for up to 6 weeks and more importantly a lost premiership cup.
Could be quite costly for a cowards punch.

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Definitely Adam I get its out

Sun, 2018-08-05 21:39

Definitely Adam
I get its out of character and Gaff is normally a good guy but gee, a bloody kid in his first year.
Hopefully he is rubbed out all together for 18'.

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Sun, 2018-08-05 22:23

 5 weeks for Jeremy Cameron... about that again.

 

key will be impact ... severe would be terrible for gaff, but definitely in play, intentional and high and not in play all given and all worse case scenarios.

 

 

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Sun, 2018-08-05 22:40

 

I'm devo'd . Firstly for Andrew, it's just almost like assault . But also for Gaff, if there's one Eagle I respect it's him, but this is insane. Bit in shock really, listening to WC supporters defend this I'm thinking I would probably punch their lights out ATM.. 

Ross clearly sent the boys out to sort this out. This says a lot.. He's such a benign coach and everything is about numbers, and Friggen percentage but not this time.. It was personal.. A kid got maimed..

 

If Brayshaw was in contention for Rising Star then that's even worse.. Johnson boo’d by all the WC douchbags made it plausible.. After 3Q time Ross held back Ballantyne to let him know and within 30sec Gaff was on the ground feeling it..  The worst of the game was Shuey. What an absolute fag, the best part was early he got HTB for ducking twice.. Needs to be wacked a few times around the head.. Worst player in the comp..

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www.sen.com.au/news/2017/07/03/boxing-champ-defends-bugg-punch/

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I can not believe the wc

Mon, 2018-08-06 06:55

I can not believe the wc supporters comments on facebook who think its funny and he should just man up as it's a man's game.
I know with my old school mentality and family loyalty that if I was Andy's brother at west coast I wouldn't be able to contain myself and Andrew Gaff would be lying on the turf knocked out.
Adam simpson in my opinion is just as bad with post game comments, lost alot of respect for that guy.
The west australian media and wc will down play this just like always.
Andrew Gaff will always be remebered as a coward for along time, my only wish is that Johnson's shoulder ended with the same result that was dished out to Andy.

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 So your last comment puts

Mon, 2018-08-06 07:21

 So your last comment puts you in the bracket as what your expousing with all your comments, hypocritical mate. Yeah fucking Johnson the angel of justice.

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 Yep sounded good till that

Mon, 2018-08-06 07:36

 Yep sounded good till that last comment, head hits aren't on anywhere. Especially in the spotlights of afl where kids are watching, as for the retaliation even worse. Teaching the young aus kickers that its fine to hit then retaliate. Then when there out on the town when they are old enough full of piss its the norm coz the eagles god send done it why cant i. Throw the book at him afl and assault charges. If its not legal on the streets definitely shouldnt be on the feild.

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 If that was your son that

Mon, 2018-08-06 07:41

 If that was your son that had broke Brayshaws jaw would you call him a dog ? Probably not . You'd be pretty dissapointed but you wouldn't disown him. 

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 And if Brayshaw was your son

Mon, 2018-08-06 07:47

 And if Brayshaw was your son would you take solace in the fact west coast supporters justify it by saying gaff isn’t usually a dirty player? 

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 Not at all , i'd be pissed

Mon, 2018-08-06 07:55

 Not at all , i'd be pissed off and ropeable. 2 different reactions. So how would you be if it was your son that done that to Brayshaw ?

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 I’d be disappointed, shocked

Mon, 2018-08-06 08:43

 I’d be disappointed, shocked and shamed. Be a fair bit of soul searching as to where I could of done a better job in his upbringing. But of course I would still be there for him.

 

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Your right Seakem, Rob90,

Mon, 2018-08-06 08:22

Your right Seakem, Rob90, bloody hypocritical and in retrospect it wasn't a great comment. A bit of frustration coming out there with a bit of " I wish ".
Time for me to sign off on this one and let the dust settle.
At the end of the day, Andrew Gaff will be remembered for what he did. If he is as good of character as everybody says, then this will be one of the biggest regrets of his career.

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not so sure anyone is

Mon, 2018-08-06 08:29

not so sure anyone is ''justifying it ''or at least not the thinking people

but you cant just run of on hate either , and start to name call and talk about a retribution of violence as justified ..

the ''intent'' is the question im stuck on , just cant see gaff as the type of player who would want to inflict that injury from a head hit off the play on any player

does anyone really think that was his intention ?? really ??
that is not condoning it at all just trying to get the your head around what happened , not just what we saw

but if your going to make a judgement on the incident , then it should be done rationally

gaff will get the penalty it deserves i have no doubt of that , but at this point in the year , with all there is at stake , was it his intention to make the hit like that with that outcome ??
in all honesty i would doubt it

that wont change the outcome , as its as bad as it can be with neither of the two endign up well from this

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 Well said Hezzy, articulated

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 Well said Hezzy, articulated better than I ever could.

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I agree.

Mon, 2018-08-06 08:58

I agree Hezzy, I don't think the outcome was intentional by Gaff. Completely out of character but deserving of the punishment he will get. Having said that, I think it was wrong that the other team retaliate in the way they did. If one of the hits by Johnson on Gaff was slightly out, it could have collected him in the face creating the same outcome. If a coach condones retaliation by his team, then he is just as guilty. The umpires should have got a handle on it straight away. As for setting the example for young players, the media should not show it or anything like it over & over & over again.
I am not defending Gaff, he was wrong & like I said deserving of the punishment for a brain fade. A shame to see this happen & my thoughts go out to the young fella for his injury. I hope he comes back to the game and continues to build a great career. IMO.....

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 Well said but, swinging his

Mon, 2018-08-06 09:34

 Well said but, swinging his fist with enough force to mangle the young blokes face as it did, what was his intention? Tickle him under the chin? Regardless of where it connected above the waist he would of layed him out and still got him reported. Agreed the outcome was not part of his plan but his intention was to slow him down one way or another.

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Punches

Mon, 2018-08-06 10:45

rob90. Did you see the punches that Ballantyne and others were throwing earlier in the game on the side of the centre square to rough up their opposition. Into the middle of the chest. If they hit your jaw you would also be stuffed. Im not sure what was going through Gaff's mind, but, if the AFL is serious about the rules then the following should apply:

* Any punch, whether to the head, back chest...anywhere should be result in a free kick. Im sick of seeing punches and generally shittiness on the field. Bumping is enough. Punches are wrong.

* If pulling a jumper is a free kick...then apply the fu#?ing rule. Im sick of seeing players get jumper punches, dragged around and generally roughed up by grabbing jumpers. 

* if the head is sacrasanct (sp) then why can you take a screamer on someones head, with a knee to the temple, but as long as you take the mark its legit. Im not trying to outlaw screamers...but again its inconsistent.

Also, while Im glad the Dockers stood up for their team mate (I'd want the same for mine) the umpires lost control of that game and simply put their whistles away.

Also, I'd like to see Ross's lips when he spoke to Ballantyne just before he went out and flattened Gaff. If a lip reader picks up that he asked his player to do that then he should get in the shit for that as well.

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Mon, 2018-08-06 11:47

 Lyon said in his presser he was putting out spot fires amongst his group at 3/4 time and that included Ballantyne. I really don’t think he would have sent anyone out to head hunt.

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Mon, 2018-08-06 13:24

Hi Dale. 

I believe he may have told he player group that as the general message (plausible deniability - as all of the players if asked can say "Ross told us to leave him alone")  but he pulled Balantyne asside afterwards and had a quiet word and the very next play he was involved in resulted in a bloody heavy hit. So, either Balantyne completely ignored Lyon (which I doubt) or Lyon specifically asked Balantyne to take him out which is what I firmly believe.  

As a WCE supporter Im not actually worried about the penalty. It will be hefty, and given the severity of the injury it should be quite hefty., Im more shocked at the actions of Gaff. Mistake, frustration, whatever...just disappointed. Completely out of character.

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Intent

Mon, 2018-08-06 11:18

 This all depends on what we're looking as in terms of intent. Don't put the cart before the horse.

Did he intend to punch him. YES i don't think this is in dispute.

So if his intention was to hit him then if he intented that sort if injury or not is irrelenent.

The injury is a consequence of his actions.

 

 

 

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MIKE , id like to point out

Mon, 2018-08-06 17:51

MIKE ,
id like to point out intentions are vastly different to consequences ..

on one hand he may or may not have intended to break his jaw , the fact that he did means he will inevitable pay the consequential price of that

gaff apparently played golf with both the brayshaw boys earlier in the week , so hard to see any malice in his intent imo

players each week get niggled and biffed about , shirt fronted , elbowed , they are often clench fist punched around the body , often upper body but not head ..still feel it was one of those gone over the top and ending badly , more that just pure malice from gaff

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 Interesting..... what does

Mon, 2018-08-06 08:38

 Interesting..... what does an act like this deserve? If it occured in public or in any other workplace? I doubt the penalty will be what he desrves.

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why oh why

Mon, 2018-08-06 08:55

 the whole team looked as if they were costing along , imo certainly out of his caracter  def. not defending or excusing but not sure that his intention was to inflict that type of result , makes me think back to the  Barry Hall episode !

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Seriousness of the incident

Mon, 2018-08-06 09:15

Seriousness of the incident aside this gem in reference to Yeo winning the Rosco is too good not to share:

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Mon, 2018-08-06 12:08

 WAPOL are interested and have asked parties to come forward. This unfortunately, may well play out in the courts.

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Leigh Mathews

Mon, 2018-08-06 12:53

been done before, Leigh Mathews got fined $1000 by the court for assault and AFL deregistered him for a month for same sort of thing years back

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 Geez, if you asked any

Mon, 2018-08-06 14:37

 Geez, if you asked any dockers supporter 48 hours ago what their favourite derby moment was, 99 percent of them would of said the time dale kickett punched the fuck out of Phil Read

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 I’m with you dumper, way too

Mon, 2018-08-06 14:57

 I’m with you dumper, way too many emotional knee jerk Dockers muppets on here.. keep it to FB.. I prefer my fishing forum to revolve around fishing 

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 That is gold once again

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We should get some 'Kill

Mon, 2018-08-06 19:26

We should get some 'Kill Andrew' tshirts made up and wear them to the next home derby

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Mon, 2018-08-06 20:03

 Well gee, if you asked me, it wouldn’t be that. There are plenty of moments better than that.

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Then dont read general

Mon, 2018-08-06 15:11

Then don't read general discussion, who are the muppets ?

It was a dog act, just like any other cowards punch, plain and simple, deflect however you like.

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 Gaff looked like a bloke

Mon, 2018-08-06 16:24

 Gaff looked like a bloke who'd just cost himself a million over the next 5 years.

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 Interesting watching the WCE boss when asked if there’s a bad culture at his club, he wouldn’t answer. 

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you could ask the same thing

Tue, 2018-08-07 07:16

you could ask the same thing to freo in regards to the off field behaviour over a lot of years and probably get the same response Dale.
Maybe lets assess how many players have been fined or suspended at each club to see if there is a bad culture.

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Mon, 2018-08-06 20:24

 What a tosser that Geoff Parry is. watching the chanel 7 news tonight, he tried to bait Adam Simpson by asking if the police should get involved. Not once, twice but three times during the press confrence. 

Bringing up the old "culture problem" chestnut at the Eagles. 

He was implying that if it was outside the game, he would have been arrested for assult.

Wake up knobhead, if half the hits on sunday happened outside the ground, they would just about all be classed as assult.

What is with these numbnuts reporters? The idiot Bazil Brush tried it as well, cudos to Simpson when he told Bazil not to get involved in all the "media hype"

Honestly, one day out and i am already sick of seeing the same video & listening to the same shit from different people.

Yes he was wrong in doing it.

Yes he will get the punishment he deserves. But FFS, dont build it up to be the most important event in the world.

Like Leigh Mathews said, Brayshaw will get better & his wounds will heal.

Gaff will never live it down, it will follow him where ever he goes.

So based on that i guess Gaff will be the one to be most impacted, did it to himself.

Feel sorry for both of them now & later on when the media start hounding them.

Asking Gaff if he is remorseful & Brayshaw if he will press charges. Lol.

Hope it does not have long term affects on either of them.

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Bad culture

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 I think Nisbett gave that question the respect it deserved - f@#k all.

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Just got to watch jeff parry

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Just got to watch jeff parry anytime he is on and it's easy to work out he is a flogger. Basil isn't a journos arsehole looked like an absolute joke with his line of questions last night.

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 A different look at the

Tue, 2018-08-07 07:05

 A different look at the incident. When they take the field it is their place of work and the Eagles board are their employer it should be up to the employer to manage its employees.

 

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Gaff should use the defence

Tue, 2018-08-07 07:40

Gaff should use the defence that Brayshaw said something mean about his tattoo. Seems to work for Downhill Headland when he threw haymakers at Adam Selwood

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All I can say about this

Tue, 2018-08-07 07:50

All I can say about this after seeing it live,was WTF went through Gaff's mind.
It was unbelievable and simply indefensible and me as a WC supporter hope he gets the book thrown at him.
Something provoked him, what it was may or may not come out at the Tribunal. But irrespective of this he was trying to "Knock his block off" intentionally.
No point in bantering this way or that, it was purely and simply wrong.

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It'll be on tonight

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Tue, 2018-08-07 08:20

 I’m leaning towards 10-12 weeks. I think the AFL are going to make huge statement on this incident.

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My money's on 6 due to no

Tue, 2018-08-07 08:35

My money's on 6 due to no intent to actually strike the face and then reduced to 5 for his good record.

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 Gotta go 6. Barry Hall on

Tue, 2018-08-07 08:52

 Gotta go 6. Barry Hall on Staker was only 7 weeks and Hall had a terrible list of priors. 

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Actually got 10. He got a 25% discount for an early plea which was available then.

What injury did Staker get at the time? 

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Brain trauma on account of

Tue, 2018-08-07 09:06

Brain trauma on account of him being stone cold out before he hit the ground.

I'd liken the Gaff hit to the Houli hit moreso than the Hall hit but more serious on account of the structural damage to Brayshaw.

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Suspect 7-8, reduced for no

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Suspect 7-8, reduced for no prior appearances.
Will stretch into next season irrespective .
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The Barry Hall punch was 10

Tue, 2018-08-07 09:24

The Barry Hall punch was 10 years ago, they gave Tom Bugg (Melbourne) 6 weeks for his hit on Sydney's Callum Mills in 2017. I'm pretty sure that Callum mills played the following week, considering the way this stuff is viewed these days I think he will get more than 6 due to Brayshaws injuries.

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you would be safe to put

Tue, 2018-08-07 09:29

you would be safe to put money on at least 8 weeks i reckon

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I think 6 down from 7,

Tue, 2018-08-07 10:05

I think 6 down from 7, whether they make a statement or a fair outcome is anyone's guess atm.

I get he is genuinely remorseful and will cop his wack, but he definitely does not deserve to play for the rest of the year.

Personally would like to see a statement made to all players that if you punch someone to the head then you will be dealt with accordingly.

I also think Johnson should have been rubbed for his hit, let off too lightly.

He has not only let himself down but his team mates and fans as well as it may be the difference to gaining another cup.

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johnson hit imo should have

Tue, 2018-08-07 10:46

johnson hit imo should have copped more than 2k fine

it was with intention and malice to pay gaff out
no doubt about that ,

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Yep, he's a complete flog.

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Yep, he's a complete flog.

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Excellent verdict and sends a

Tue, 2018-08-07 17:40

Excellent verdict and sends a strong message for a dog act that doesn't belong in the AFL.

The ramifications will certainly be interesting for wc in a premiership year.

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Can't argue with 8 weeks for

Tue, 2018-08-07 17:54

Can't argue with 8 weeks for smashing a guy's mouth in.

The other interesting aspect is Gaff's contract. Will he now announce he is leaving? Are offers on the table being withdrawn or lowered? Will Gaff feel like he owes the club and reject offers we can't match?

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Watch them step up

Tue, 2018-08-07 17:53

Watch them step up

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Sounds

Tue, 2018-08-07 18:00

 Fair

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Tue, 2018-08-07 18:04

 Let's not get confused, it's 8 matches, not necessarily 8 weeks.

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Don't you think that's fair

Tue, 2018-08-07 18:06

Don't you think that's fair Dale?

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Tue, 2018-08-07 18:07

 Yep, pretty happy with that.

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 Phew!  Thank god for that.

Tue, 2018-08-07 18:14

 Phew!  Thank god for that.

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Makes me feel better too

Tue, 2018-08-07 18:20

Makes me feel better too sea-kem, dockers supporter might get some sleep now...not to mention those Collingwood supporters

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Tue, 2018-08-07 18:23

 

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What a relief. Freo

Tue, 2018-08-07 18:56

What a relief. Freo supporters can now go from being self righteous flogs back to plain old run of the mill flogs 

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 Ha ha 

Tue, 2018-08-07 18:59

 Ha ha 

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Yep time to get back to

Tue, 2018-08-07 18:27

Yep time to get back to footy

Great interview by Gaff I must admit.

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 Yep time for us to belt  the

Tue, 2018-08-07 18:46

 Yep time for us to belt  the Power err I mean beat oh shit I mean win 

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Yep, right on Andy

Tue, 2018-08-07 19:05

Down a few players atm, but the boys will soldier on!

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Tue, 2018-08-07 19:20

 

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Interesting.

Tue, 2018-08-07 19:45

 I hope WCE club are giving Gaff support, seen him after the tribunal on the news & to me he looks like he is struggling with things.

He is a genuine nice guy who made a horrible mistake, but i'm not sure he knows how to deal with it properly. As i'm sure a lot of us wouldnt.

Being close to Brayshaws family should be a plus to help him.....

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Tue, 2018-08-07 19:45

 Haters are always gonna hate.

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hmmmm

Wed, 2018-08-08 17:00

Shitty outcome but the injury was not intended, he copped his punishment, 8 weeks in a whopper. I think Freo fans forget about Solomon doing worse to Ling and getting 8 weeks.

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Wed, 2018-08-08 17:52

 Not forgotten, just in the past. We don’t dwell on the past like wet toast mob do.

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 Lol If I was a Frocker

Wed, 2018-08-08 21:05

 Lol If I was a Frocker supporter I'd want to forget their past too.

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 Being a Carlton supporter I

Fri, 2018-08-10 20:45

 Being a Carlton supporter I dwell on the past quite a bit. 

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devastated old pdiddy didnt

Wed, 2018-08-08 20:35

devastated old pdiddy didnt fire up a comment about his 5m tiger shark that belted a bloke his mate new up in karratha when playing bowls

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I got an OG fable via PM

Wed, 2018-08-08 20:53

I got an OG fable via PM

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