Give us a fair go

Just started Ballooning from the beach and I get spooled by a boat that saw me waving  and heard me shouting .They slowed down , looked at me and hit the gas.  I lost 1000mtrs of Saltiga Boat Braid before I could get back to the rod.

If you see someone fishing off the beach that is waving and shouting have a look around and up in the sky , 3 foot brightly coloured balloons are not hard to see , if you cant go around ease off on the throttle and give us 5 minutes to pull

them in , then you can go on your way.

 

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It's a game to them mate.

Tue, 2012-05-15 16:06

Happens all the time.

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depends

Tue, 2012-05-15 16:13

 if it was a high traffic area or not but its not all of the boat owners

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Doubt anyone would

Tue, 2012-05-15 16:23

Doubt anyone would deliberately run over line. You'd have to be a idiot. Braid wrapped around your prop usely stuffs your gearbox seal and that costs a few dollars to fix.

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theres peole that do it on

Tue, 2012-05-15 16:40

theres peole that do it on purpose

ive had it done to me a few times even in the river

the w##Ker ran straight over my line and did circles on others right next to me then he took of down river

 

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About 3 month ago

Tue, 2012-05-15 16:41

I was fishing at eshed one night with a couple of lines out, there were about 10 other fishos there too. It was about 11pm when a boat was coming in with 5 young guys around the age 20-25? Come screaming down the side of the wharf yelling abuse and being idiots and cut off most of our lines, (my guess was son borrowed dads boat and showing off to his mates)

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Same happened to me while

Tue, 2012-05-15 16:41

Same happened to me while trolling in the Swan over summer. Idiot crossed both our lines and cut them off, same thing waved and shouted but the clown thought i wasdoing the friendly wave thing. Like Vince said happens all the time.

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They'll stop if we start

Tue, 2012-05-15 16:46

They'll stop if we start ditching sinkers at there boats, don't want to , but if there doing it on purpose I wounldnt hesitate to throw a nice 6oz at them

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If someone started throwing

Tue, 2012-05-15 16:57

If someone started throwing shit at me I would definitely start cutting lines, just saying..

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When i was fishing with Leemo

Tue, 2012-05-15 16:58

When i was fishing with Leemo once , under the narrows, some pissheads in a meter long inflatable ran over one of our mulloway lines. Leemo picked it up, struck and starting hauling the bastards in! 3 hp is no match for a 950 spinfisher hahah

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Haha that would have been

Tue, 2012-05-15 17:00

Haha that would have been funny!

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Flangies, now that is farkin

Tue, 2012-05-15 21:29

Flangies, now that is farkin farnee.

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hope they got thrown back as

Wed, 2012-05-16 13:32

hope they got thrown back as an undesirable catch. as much of a pest as the blowies

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Wouldn't throw anything if

Tue, 2012-05-15 17:02

Wouldn't throw anything if didn't have to, it mite stop people doin it, only throw throw stuff at you if your cutting the lines on purpose. they ruin our stuff we ruin there's, ( old saying eye for a eye)

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Definitly dont recommend

Tue, 2012-05-15 17:34

Definitly dont recommend throwing stuff, as frustrating as it can be at times with some ignorant or some d*#khead people. Seen many many incidents down south during Salmon season between Bunkers and Castle Rock or people thinking the best way to get the boats to not come close after the salmon was to cast big metals and sinkers at them.

One particular incident i witnessed a busselton local known to me(though not a friend by any means), did it to a boat that had a chap and his young son and daughter(6-8yrs old?) in it. Well he did push a bit further out to sea but about 10 mins later the Dunsborough police were in the carpark and the boatie came to the shore and pointed the local out to the cops. Dont know what transpired but saw the cops hand some papers to the fisho that thought it was a good idea to cast at the boat and the cops sent him on his way.

Point is, yes boats can be a little more courteous, if they know what is going on. For the boaties that are a**holes well not much you can do about them but shake your fist and yell abuse. But when you start lobbing projectiles at a boat you dont know who or what you are going to hit. You could hit the skipper, his wife, kids or mates. Hit them in the head you could easily kill them. And for what fish?, line?, balloons?

Personnaly think there is no excuse to go purposely lobbing projectiles AT boaties. Though if lure casting, casting out in a manner that lets boatie know they are within range often will let them know to back further out. Ballooning is alot harder, you just have to be very vigilant and annoyingly have to bring them in, set them out, bring them in, and set them out, again, and again, and again.

 

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snapper

Tue, 2012-05-15 17:26

sorry to hear you lost well earnt fishing gear, how far out were the balloons? as a boat owner i probably should but dont even consider a beach fisho that is half a kay from me waving, because i sure as hell cant hear him over engine noise, sorry to hear you lost your rig

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Nice

Tue, 2012-05-15 17:32

Nice point Buz

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Great to see snapper

Tue, 2012-05-15 17:50

that my line was ok lol ,  And you got a fish as well on my rod -------While i was at lunch

Weather looking good for ballooning on friday[ snapper]??????

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reel is spooled up again

Tue, 2012-05-15 18:51

but I have to bring the kids to school at 8.30 and my car will not have an engine in it until sat/sun.

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Shore fishing

Tue, 2012-05-15 19:47

 Anyone else noticed how the rock fishers are trying to get out as far as possible while the boat ideas are trying to get as close to the rocks as they can?

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yeh. funny isnt it.With all

Tue, 2012-05-15 20:30

yeh. funny isnt it.

With all that ocean out there boats still like to get up into a Land Based fishers area.  Have that happen all the time back in NZ too. 

Was live baiting some years ago for marlin back in NZ with a few mates at a well known tourist hot spot area.We had taken an IRB out and landed on an island with a 60m deep drop straight off the rocks.. We had to constantly reel our baits back in for boats, 300+m out is a fair way. I know how hard it is to find my balloons where i have sent a bait a few hundred metres out, and i would assume a boat who isnt looking for it would have no chance. We didnt loose any that day, but had a number of very near misses.

While you might have your eyes locked onto what you think is an obvious brightly coloured balloon.. doesnt mean a boat who isnt looking for such a thing would see it at all.

Pick your days and spots, early morning mid week, late evening weekends (use glow sticks in the balloons).. keep away from any high traffic areas or just accept that you will loose gear to boats.

Doesnt matter how much you wave your hands, it never helps.

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a few years back

Tue, 2012-05-15 22:42

quite a few years back i was fishing in a tinney with my young son about 5 metres out from a large metro yacht club at night. suddenly without warning there was a loud splash right next to the boat followed a couple of seconds later by the sound of something landing in the boat and with such noise it scared the hell out of both of us. a quick look around with a touch reveiled alarge rock in the bottom of the boat and a sizeable dent in the boat bottom.I quickly looked around and spotted a large size securitry guard on the yacht club pen area who on seeing me making eye contact with him proceeded to use every bit of profanity he could briefly interupted by instructions that i was not allowed to fish there and to get out of the asap..

I told the ape that he was wrong about being allowed to fish where i was as i was not made fast to the yacht clubs property or using their mooring facilities and he shouldn't go chuking any more rocks or he could find himself in a lot of trouble.This brought on another salvo of rocks, i retreated outt of range and radioed up the water police, who arrived sometime later.On seeing the law arrive i motored into the yacht club pen area and gave my side of the story to the law. After a brief radio message from the cop wagon to an unknown  the law told the ape that we were not breaking any law and to desist from chucking rocks etc at us. Cop left we went back to fishing place cops barely out of sight when another broadside of rocks came our way. repeat stage one above law comes back with lights and sirens blarring we come into pen area agai,n apeman tells the law they are wrong and he has been told to get rid of us. scuffle ensues apeman bunddled into back of van (in cuffs) van leaves we go back to fishing.

nothing more was heard from anyone about the incxident when i made enquiries with the local law i was told it's all been taken care of

don't go chucking stuff at other people even though they may get up your nose.

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Good stuff on not losing your

Tue, 2012-05-15 22:51

Good stuff on not losing your cool and educating the ape yourself, and letting the boys in blue do their stuff!

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Ballooning on North Mole

Wed, 2012-05-16 08:43

 One day I was ballooning with a couple of mates of north mole for sharks, I was waiting there sitting paitintly waiting for a run when suddenly a couple of stupid kayakers came across our lines. The first reation was a sreaming run, I sprinted soooooo fast to my reel that I nearly tripped in the water, next thing I knew the line was caught under his rudder. I put it into drag and the that was when the kayakers was screwed (it is not like he can spool me with a penn senator 144H with 1200 meters of braid and mono). I started pumping the rod getting more and more line back, the funny thing was that when I did the kayaker because kayaks arent ment to go backwards fell of into the gale force winds, however I kept pumping until the idiot snapped my line but the funny thing was that it took him another half hour to get back on meanwhile in the sharky waters.  In the end I had won the battle but lost a avery good custom shark rig :(

Thanks for reading    

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i feel bad for the kayaker.

Wed, 2012-05-16 17:38

i feel bad for the kayaker.

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Kayaker

Wed, 2012-05-16 18:24

 Hahaha you shouldnt it was his own fault.

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bungel.......beach fishos

Wed, 2012-05-16 19:30

those boats are fishing for the same fish tailor! ocean is to be shared by everyone not just a beach fisho although each needs to respect others "fishing" space

to the boaties.. how much room do you allow the blokes fishing the mouth of the marina? do they deserve the same half kay??

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This is a tough subject

Wed, 2012-05-16 19:42

The quest of the "ballooners" seems to be to get out as far as they can. The quest of a small boat owner is to get in as close as they can. At the end of the day we have two sets of fishermen competing in the same patch. It's a bit like Pike fishermen in the UK lining up on either side of the river or canal using live bait. It's always going to end up in a tangle. LOL. Over there they just throw apples at each other and adjourn for a glass of Cider... Ha Ha..

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its all very debatable.I

Wed, 2012-05-16 20:08

its all very debatable.

I mean, if i fish off the rock back home and have anything come within casting distance i treat them as well within MY area. I will let them know that too. If i send a live bait out a few hundred metres in a very low boat traffic area then i will again be rather pissed off if someone rips past in the vacinity of my bait. But i wont hold them responsible as thats well out of the 'normal' Land Based fisho's area.  So i am the one who is rather taking the risk and putting my bait out where others now have to contend with. If its a high boat traffic area.. im playing with fire. 

I have spent alot of time Land Based fishing some crazy places in NZ. And there is also alot to contend with over there. Cray boats will set up pots close in to rocks, and we need to factor those in along with the boats that come to pick them up. Its hard to say where ones personal space is on the ocean. I have had boats set up just out of 'casting distance' down current and in our berly trail before. I would consider that quite rude, but would do nothing about it but give them the finger as they leave.

I have done a fair bit of kayaking around and when ever i see land based fishos, i take it nice and easy. Will always give them a wave and ask 'permission' to head through on my current line. 

And yes, i totally agree that there are some idiots out there who just dont want to play by your rules, or abide by the unwritten ones. Cant do anything about that sadly.

If it was up to me, i would make it a rule to keep boaties a km away from and Land Based fisho's currently fishing. They have plenty of ocean that no Land Based fisho can ever access.. they should just stick to those areas.

 

.... The way i combat all of this is to 'simply' fish area that dont attract the boats. Areas that are more remote, places that i dont have to contend with all this kind of crap. 

Because i know its a war i wont win.

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 Nice one vince. haha

Wed, 2012-05-16 20:10

 Nice one vince. haha

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At least this doesnt happen here.

Wed, 2012-05-16 22:54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUpKPARyL2M

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Logic & respect

Fri, 2012-05-18 10:46

Fishing for gars since sunrise. 2 older citizens put their towels down right beside me and jump in..cutting right across the fish area?? How those two size 10's gamakatsu's will hurt? (300m of calm beach water to the left???)

Man on beach with bucket & rod = fisherman. Stay clear boaties - size 3 star travels a fair distance if the line snap on a cast.

Man on beach and baloon/kite is connected - don't cut in between.... 50lb braid locked on shore is going to cut through a fair bit prior to breaking - might be your outrigger, upper torso, throat but hopefully it's the line cutter on the engine.

Beach fisho's - pick up your braid and line - my kids have soft feet and so does the birds.

Be mindfull of of surfers and people on the beach when trying to belt your 3oz star to Africa...you snap the trace= lethal.

Bit of common sense required...and a touch of mutual respect and consideration.

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 Went out looking for some

Sun, 2012-05-20 11:33

 Went out looking for some taylor this morning and came across a red marker boy north of Mindari (that was what it looked like) that was a fishing balloon absolutly hundreds of meters out from the beach.

Luckily we realised what it was and steered around it ocean side as to not run through the line.

Not all of us run through lines on purpose!

 

 

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