Good rod and reel setup
Submitted by Watto069 on Sat, 2008-10-04 10:42
Hi All
I'm looking for a good bottom bouncing setup eg rod and reel. As I have just bought a new boat I don't have much experience in the good quality gear that is avaiable. Can anyone suggest what brands of rods and reels I should be looking at.
Thanks
Brodie
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Avet MXJ and monster mesh
Avet MXJ and monster mesh rod, I used to fish TLD 25's, Not any more ...love the new age light gear can hold onto all day with two fingers...
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Ive got a Daiwa Saltist 40
Ive got a Daiwa Saltist 40 with a Shimano tcurve 200g overhead which I love, probably a $450-$500ish combo.
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The monster mesh is a daiwa
The monster mesh is a daiwa rod right? Who makes the Avet MXJ
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Can you get a decent amount
Can you get a decent amount of braid on the saltist steve
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
Watto069
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I think I want to go a lever
I think I want to go a lever drag setup on the reel
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
Colin Hay
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So many choices Watto
give us an idea of your budget and we might be able to point you closer to where you want to go.
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Saltist live fibre
Great rods, i have one myself.
Bottom bouncing i use a shimano tekota 700 with 50lb braid.
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Dean
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There are heaps of choices,
There are heaps of choices, depending on how much you want to spend.
If you want a good quality Leverdrag reel, you cant go past a shimano torsa.
With rods you have heaps to choose from. Shimano Tcurves, jigwrex. live fibre, daiwa monstermesh, Penn powerstick pro standup game....
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Again from me
I have a Saltist 40and I have got over 300m of 50lb braid on it and have pulled in over 130 sambo's jigging, plus many more fish even out at the derwent, I use a black tiger as I like the ugly stick rods, soft enough to not hurt me but stiff enough to even get a 500g jig swimming.
Look at a ugly stick bluewater as they don't make black tigers anymore , I'm after another Black tiger but can't find any second hand one's for sale.
If you are using a Saltist and 50 lb braid you just do up the drag and thats it for the day , I don't know why people play around with their drag for when bottom bouncing, most of the time you just back off to drop it down then push it up to strike drag when you hit bottom , same thing on a star drag only you release the spool then click it into gear when you hit bottom.
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Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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my pickl!
Hi Brodie,
As mentioned, comes down to how much ya wanna spend!
L/Drag Reels i'd suggest;
* Okuma Titus
* Okuma Titus Gold
* Tomman Seagame
* Shimano Tyrnos
* Daiwa Sealine
Rods i'd suggest;
* Ugly stik (standard)
* Ugly Stik Bluewater
* Shimano Beastmaster
* Daiwa Ninja
Leverdrag Combo's i'd suggest;
* Shimano TLD
* Shimano Tekota
* Pfluguer Contender
PM me if you need anymore info!
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Budget would be anywhere up
Budget would be anywhere up to say $600 but can pay more if its worth it.
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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L/Drag!
That $$$ can buy ya something good Brodie!
I prefer my leverdrag reels for bottom fishing due to ease of drag adjustment and drag curve. Having a pre-set also helps maintain correct adjustment!
I also prefer 2 speed leverdrag reels. This helps when bringing up big fish off the bottom. The Shimano TLD new models with graphite body makes them light & strong. I use Livefibre also, very nice rod indeed and has a glass top section that reduces high stick snapping. This combo is within that price so check it out!
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Exactly
Thats why I like the Black Tiger , that soft tip helps with braid .
The new Ugly stick bluewater is nearly the same.
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Thanks for all the info guys
Thanks for all the info guys have decided on what combo i'm going to get
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
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whats the decision? The
whats the decision?
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We all wanna know =0
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Saltist 50 and live fibre.
Saltist 50 and live fibre. Have always wanted to try the live fibre rods
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
sherbert
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A great decision m8
You will be happy with that combo
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Watto069
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Cheers Steve. sounds like it
Cheers Steve. sounds like it will do the trick. Just need to get onto some fish when I get home to try it out
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
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50? Cripes, even my 30TH
50? Cripes, even my 30TH (660g, 6.4:1) has at least 300yds of 50lb braid on it. If I got to pick again, I'd probably go the 30H (510g, 6.1:1) as I don't think the extra ratio is worth the 150g.
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Yeh I might look at the 40
Yeh I might look at the 40 when I get home. Seems most blokes have 40 but then again I like to be different. Bigger is better right? LOL
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
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Haha yeah he is bigger than
Haha yeah he is bigger than me and catches more fish than me too =)
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its only about 200g difference
between the 30H and the 50. If that 200g extra isn't going to bother you, then go the 50 and a 1000m spool of braid - you'll need most if not all of it.
If you are going to jig with it, then you want to seriously consider a swap down to the 30H as any extra weight is taxing on the dukes after a day of jigging (particularly sambos). You'll have forearms like popeye.
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Good decision...
G'day Brodie...
My take is that it comes down to your budget, depth of water you'll be fishing, and to a lesser degree what you'll be targeting...
For $500-600 you can't go past the quality of the Daiwa Saltist 50 and the soft tip and stopping power of a Live Fibre 15-24kg short stroker.... loaded with 65 pound braid or thereabouts....
I normally fish for at least 6 hours so I don't like heavy gear... the lighter the better (without sacrificing too much strength) - just so you know there are some nice egg beaters that would be good too, but they can be a little more exy I think...
If you're talking bottom bouncing in 100-300m's of water well than that's a different kettle of fish all together... that's were your two speeds would come into their own...I've recently secured a Saltist 50 and love the balance and weight when matched up to the Live Fibre... that was a relatively cheap outfit for me as I picked up the Live Fibre a couple of months ago when BCF had their 15% off sale (off Live Fibre rods);
Another option is to just be a dickhead like me and buy everything; most toys wins hey! You can never have too many combo's...
cheers,
damo
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Im not the biggest guy in
Im not the biggest guy in the world but I reckon I can hang on all day.
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
Watto069
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Damn straight Damo. Going to
Damn straight Damo. Going to go with the same setup as you have got. How much braid did you get on ya saltist 50.
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
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Dunno
Couldn't tell you mate, but I'm quietly confident that it's more than I'll ever need!
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Yeh I kind of thought that
Yeh I kind of thought that would be the case.
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
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I run the saltist 50
On my live fibre 10 to 15 And iam geting better hook up rate now,
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L/Fibre!
Yeh the 10-15kg is nice, more fun & less pulled hooks Watto. I still do use my Live Fibre 15-24kg however for deepwer water stuff ie 100 plus + where heavier leads are required and still having backbone strength for hook ups & power when required!
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As for deep water
I go to my strudwick 24 to 37 kg jig stick, Or my trolling rod outfit
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Thats good ryan because I
Thats good ryan because I would like to get out deep and still use the same rod but will have to buy a 2 speed reel for it. What reel do you run when fishing depths 100+
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
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I am open to correction
but I'm sure he uses a Penn 16VSX - Pricey! You wont get much change from a grand!
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till
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A certain perth tackle shop
A certain perth tackle shop is carrying those John Bakers now as well. i can't remember the specs but something like a 30oz reel, 350yds of 80lb hollow braid and 40lb of drag.
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me!
As Huggy mentioned, i use a Penn 16VSX, nice reel for $899 but you can get something good around the $500 mark that will work well like the Okuma TG30 2 speed ...other options also available!
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With me i still
Run my 50 Saltist reel, I have been out with tim in the 190 + Depths , And i put my reel on the strudwick 24 to 37 jig stick
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Watto069
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The 50 i'm going to get is
The 50 i'm going to get is the 4.9 ratio. What ratio is yours steve.
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
sherbert
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Same as m8
Its the same m8 4.9 gear ratio
cheers steve
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Cheers steve So many fishing
Cheers steve
So many fishing spots. Not enough sickies!!!!!!!
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The saltists are quite
The saltists are quite popular reels and for good reason, so I think you'll be happy with your choice.
What was your reason for going the 50 over the 30 watto?I was looking at saltists a while ago, and from memory the 30's put out about 20lb of drag max (maybe a little less in practice). The good thing with that is that if you are using 50lb, you can play around with the drag without worrying too much (say if you are trolling). I leave mine about midway, but know if I get a big fish I can keep cranking it up until its really tight without having to worry. I ended up getting the saltists 'big' brother which is lighter than the saltist (or torium I had before) and paired it with a lighter rod and the new combo is much nicer to use than the previous heavier one. I tend to use an even lighter combo lately though :p
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