Halloween time again
Submitted by Faulkner Family on Sun, 2010-10-31 09:53
just curious as to weather people go along with it and hand out treats or do you go out somewhere so you dont have to deal with it. if you do give out treats is it only to the ones that go out and get dressed up and not the ones that cant be bothered
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fishy fingers
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I just release the Hounds!
That keeps em away!
hemi
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I decorate the house , take
I decorate the house , take this kids out for a trick or treat and the missus holds the fort at home I think it's just great watching the kids get dressed up and all exited....personally i don't understand some people don't get involved when all it does is put smiles on kids faces. But each to there own.
stilly
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american rubbish
just sit and watch telly on the couch and quietly ignore any grommets, or head up the local both work
Man Overboard
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I don't understand why we
I don't understand why we celebrate halloween in this country at all, it's an American thing and should stay that way.
Never saw this kind of shit when i was a kid, We used to try and wash peoples cars for lollie cash not knocking on strangers doors begging.
gav077
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Halloween is actually a
Halloween is actually a pagan tradition
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MattMiller
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What?
To knock on strangers doors begging for lollies but if they don't give you any you vandalise there property? Give me a break!
gav077
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Halloween is linked tothe
Halloween is linked tothe festival of Samhain, an old Celtic tradition which celebrates the end of the lighter half of the year and the beginning of the darker half. They believed that the border from our world and the otherworld became thin on Samhain allowing spirits (good and evil) to pass through. This is where the costumes and masks come from. They believed that by wearing them they warded off the harmful spirits.
The practice of dressing up and begging door to door for treats dates back to the middle ages in Ireland and Britain. Trick or treat was said in jest and the trick would be a story or song told by the people begging. So apart from the vandalising this had nothing to do with America
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MattMiller
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Thanks for
the history, I didn't know any of that. Learn something new everyday.
So the fact that I am 5th gen Australian, live in Australia, have no roots in Ireland, not religious and not American. I shouldn't expect anyone to be saying trick or treat, telling a story, singing a song, piffing eggs at my house or generally being a d$%khead anywhere near my house. Excellent
Auslobster
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Internet!
When I arrived in this country 20ish years ago (from america) there was no such thing as "Halloween" here...then when instant communication went global for everyone all the sweet-toothed littlies around the world saw what they were missing out on and many of the weak-willed mums and dads were pressured into going along with it. Good or bad, that's why it's here IMO.
My kid works in an IGA and he reckons egg sales were going through the roof yesterday, so apparently the tradition of throwing eggs on Halloween has carried over from across the Pacific as well. His manager actually ordered in extra eggs in anticipation of the rush. Nothing like promoting vandalism to make an extra buck! Go Capitalism!
abeldog
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Not Australian
Another American thing that the marketing companies have latched onto so we can spend our hard earned.
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scottland
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never celebrate it
but sureley we would all love a public holiday that america gets hahah. neay the crickets on tonight
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fishy fingers
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Not just american
I'm going on fifty and it has been around in the uk since I was little and still is, not sure how long before that though.
In fact the name itself originates from scotland hundreds of years ago...look it up in wikipedia.
Man Overboard
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Don't know about Halloween
Don't know about Halloween but i remember Guy Fawkes night or Bonfire night on 5th November. Good memories !
fishy fingers
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That too
but ours started weeks before the 5th when we used to go raiding other gangs bonfires and nick their wood...and standing guard overnight incase they come to nick ours!
fishcrazy
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old hallows eve
also known as beltane in celtic i think
carnarvonite
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Rubbish
As said before , its all American rubbish, we never heard of it when we were kids and our kids didn't do it either.
The closest thing was Guy Fawkes night with crackers and sky rockets, every street had a big communal bon fire. it was supervised by the oldies but that didn't stop us from blowing up letter boxes, frogs etc. That was in Northam in the fifties and early sixties and it certainly kept the fire fighters busy with farmers paddocks going up in smoke from sky rockets landing in them and the hospital staff treating kids with burns etc, then the powers that be decided enough was enough and canned it.
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I think
it's a complete waste of time but just imagine what the cops think of it!
UncutTriggerInWA
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It's Kid's Time
Settle pettles.. LOL This is about the kids and yeah: I saw lots of parents buying stuff for them when I was shopping yesterday. OK so I don't believe in it either but I don't take offence to a trick or treat knock on the door. Let's face it, it opens up interaction (hofefully positive) in the closer communities and given that most of us care, that has to provide greater security for the kids and a sense of relief for the parents.
Buy a bag of lollies once a year and give the kids a go. They don't understand about Americanism or whatever.
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gav077
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I dont see why people hate
I dont see why people hate it so much, who really cares where it originated as long as it puts a big grin on my kids faces, also I remember when I was a snotty 10 year old trick or treating around Bibra Lake and that was 23 years ago. I say bring it on and let the kids have a bit of fun. After all theres nothing better than a childs laughter and squeels of delight when they get given something. (I don't agree with the whole egging thing though).
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Faulkner Family
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can we expect some gouls and
can we expect some gouls and goblins at the local shop tonight
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gav077
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all depends on whether the
all depends on whether the kids clean up the floor or not, they're being little snotheads at the moment
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hemi
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yeh i thought i was the only
yeh i thought i was the only fishwrecked member who wasnt anti halloween
Yeh and i agree with the snotty kids mine have been abit feral today
any hoo for those who are into it have a great night with your kids and for those who arent .........o well
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Historian Nicholas Rogers,
Historian Nicholas Rogers, exploring the origins of Halloween, notes that while "some folklorists have detected its origins in the Roman feast of Pomona, the goddess of fruits and seeds, or in the festival of the dead called Parentalia, it is more typically linked to the Celtic festival of Samhain, whose original spelling was Samuin (pronounced sow-an or sow-in)".[1] The name is derived from Old Irish and means roughly "summer's end".[1] A similar festival was held by the ancient Britons and is known as Calan Gaeaf (pronounced Kálan Gái av).
The festival of Samhain celebrates the end of the "lighter half" of the year and beginning of the "darker half", and is sometimes[2] regarded as the "Celtic New Year".[3]
The ancient Celts believed that the border between this world and the Otherworld became thin on Samhain, allowing spirits (both harmless and harmful) to pass through. The family's ancestors were honoured and invited home while harmful spirits were warded off. It is believed that the need to ward off harmful spirits led to the wearing of costumes and masks. Their purpose was to disguise oneself as a harmful spirit and thus avoid harm. In Scotland the spirits were impersonated by young men dressed in white with masked, veiled or blackened faces.[4][5] Samhain was also a time to take stock of food supplies and slaughter livestock for winter stores. Bonfires played a large part in the festivities. All other fires were doused and each home lit their hearth from the bonfire. The bones of slaughtered livestock were cast into its flames.[6] Sometimes two bonfires would be built side-by-side, and people and their livestock would walk between them as a cleansing ritual.
Another common practice was divination, which often involved the use of food and drink.
The name 'Halloween' and many of its present-day traditions derive from the Old English era.[7][8][9]
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I'm all ready for the little
I'm all ready for the little buggers, sneak up around from the garage and frighten the begeeebies out of them. Good fun, for me anyways.
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MJ
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Reluctant
My kids are into it and we will have lollies on hand for door knockers but it just seems odd to celebrate something that is essentially an American thing.
GrahamM
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I think it is a small step
I think it is a small step to becomming a comunity where its ok for kids to play outside and know who is in your neighbourhood. I will have sweets for the door knockers tonight and love seeing the kids dressed up with mum or dad walking around with them
Cammos
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I don't disagree with the
I don't disagree with the origins of it, but it has turned into a lolly collection for kids these days.
Sadly kids are learning less and less about why we celebrate things and just focus on the "what's in it for me aspect". Typical of society these days.
grayzeee
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yep. soon they'll forget all
yep. soon they'll forget all about santa's birthday.
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
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Oh ok son
Um i never copulated with your Mother and then WOW you were born WTF???
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Laurie8781
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My concern as a foster
My concern as a foster career is why do the parents let these kids of 8 or 9 roam the street without supervision????
And, yes, i have had kids that young knock on the door tonight, with no adult within sight (i live on a cul-de-sac).
Maybe I see the results of bad parenting, but I don't like that parents are at home waiting for their kids to come home with lollies without being out there looking after their safety.
BTW, I don't keep into Halloween at all, I have had my previous house egged, toliet papered and boat covered in oil and flour because I didn't give out lollies
hemi
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Yeh that's not good at all
Yeh that's not good at all if your going to allow your kids to participate in Halloween you should be there with your kids... And as far as the egging goes they should be throttled.
carnarvonite
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Sad
Some sad news where a bloke had a heart attack chasing some kids who egged his car for not giving them any lollies