hit by a gurnard

had the ''happy moment ''today out of coast while fishing ,brought up a rather large orange model and being a bit careless I got hit on the right hand while dehooking the bugger boatside .....

needless to say it was hell firey painfull , had forgotten how they make you yip , right hand puffed up and the pain was intense for an hour or so , then hit it with 4 Panadol and a bucket of hot water ........,,pretty good now , but thought id post up just to remind peoples ..

be careful with the buggers ..we had 4 come up today ..., it only takes one !!1

didn't ruin the day , as we had 14 good siz crays and was 1 demersal short of a bag , but it is to be avoided if you can !!!lol

hezzy

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 ouch. yeah not much fun, i

Wed, 2018-03-14 15:58

 ouch. yeah not much fun, i got scrayched by one a while back and that was enough. we got a few last trip out . they are a pain in the ass but in your case the hand. 

lesson learnt i hope . we use long pliers to remove the hook and keep hands well clear

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Oh yeah. Saw my cousin battle

Wed, 2018-03-14 16:05

Oh yeah. Saw my cousin battle for hours with what ended up being around a 1 inch spine broken off in his thumb. Prick still outfished me!

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Heard similiar and worse

Wed, 2018-03-14 16:12

 Which means I have a set of extra long nose pliers and take alot of care getting gurnets off the hook, happy to hear it didnt totally ruin your day out, conditions would have been pretty good by the looks of it.

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 You seem to have got a good

Wed, 2018-03-14 16:18

 You seem to have got a good haul any way. They are a prick when you catch em on the yak. Ive never been unlucky enough to get stung but out of curiosity do the spikes actually have to break the skin for them to sting or is it a matter of just getting scraped and the slime does the damage? I'll still keep em at arms length of fallin in the yak.

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Dehooking gun

Wed, 2018-03-14 16:56

 A great investment in avoiding those spines and far easier than long nosed pliers

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What caliber do they come in

Wed, 2018-03-14 17:24

 I heard of a bloke who thought he'd subue a shark in the boat with a smokie, missed and blew a hole in the hull.

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I was using a pair of long

Wed, 2018-03-14 17:16

I was using a pair of long nose pliers on him , but he flicked upwards and just spiked my index knuckle ...
just very quick and not giving him his due attention cost me

conditions where great out today , no wind to speak of and good catches
hezzy

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A mate

Wed, 2018-03-14 17:32

 of mine got spiked recently. He said "All Good" . I told him that in 5 minutes the pain was going to hit 8/10 and stay there for an hour. At least i warned him, It wasn't nice watching the poor bugger. They are nasty bastards for sure.

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Gurnard

Wed, 2018-03-14 17:43

We used to keep gurnards in Victoria, great eating. Always cut the spines of with a set of sidecutters, no problems, lovely to eat

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 Caught one fishing the beach

Wed, 2018-03-14 18:43

 Caught one fishing the beach in freo, thought we’d keep it as I’d heard they were good eating, was really careful about the dorsal spines forgot about the the ones on its anal fins, way the pain builds is impressive but my heart rate started going through the roof, so hospital it was!

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 Nice to eat alrite, ive

Wed, 2018-03-14 18:46

 Nice to eat alrite, ive still got the head of the doubled beaked gunard my wife caught years ago.

 

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Ouch

Wed, 2018-03-14 19:04

Lol got done by one last year. Tried Pi--ing on it . Tell tail from motor. Metho , vinigar. Nothing worked 2 hours of pain. They work brilliant for dhues. Not bad on tooth also.

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 Vinegar is for jellyfish

Sat, 2018-03-17 06:45

 Vinegar is for jellyfish stings.... pee does very little to help anything. Fish spikes is hot water as you can stand and the pain goes away, you need to keep it in hot water for several hours. 

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 Been there not going back

Wed, 2018-03-14 19:37

 Been there not going back rather tie a new rig, poor  mans cray fish

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 I only go near them with a

Wed, 2018-03-14 19:46

 I only go near them with a pair of welding gloves 

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Simple lower lip grip...

Wed, 2018-03-14 20:29

 ...like you'd do with a dhuie. Have handled dozens of the things with no drama. Having said that, there's always the next one, lol!

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 Is it true hezzy if you have

Wed, 2018-03-14 20:35

 Is it true hezzy if you have a female ( human variety ) wee on it the pain subsides?

 

Speaking of, whats the difference between a Lentil and a Chic pea?

 

You wouldnt pay $200 bucks to have a lentil on your face now would you.....

 

 

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tim , lol ... no way to check

Wed, 2018-03-14 20:49

tim , lol ... no way to check that out today as only had a mate onboard ...I can say chick peas are good in tuna salad though !!!

I found the 4 panadol , with a beer helped after about an hour ...then I put my hand in a bucket of hot water when I was able too ...

rule on my boat has always been don't bring em onboard ...just de hook , and release ... less problems usually lol ,,,

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 They do hurt. Are you sure

Wed, 2018-03-14 21:20

 They do hurt. Are you sure you were one demersal short? You know gurnards are classed as a demersal

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Gurnard demersal or not?

Mon, 2018-03-19 16:44

You raise an interesting point about Big Headed Gurnard being classified as a demersal.  I sought clarification from Fisheries Dept on that point last year.  If you refer to the WA Recreational Fishing Identification Guide issued May 2017 it clearly states that Big Headed Gurnard are an Inshore Demersal.  On the other hand however the WA  Recreational Fishing Guide 2017/2018 makes no reference at all to Big Headed Gurnard.  The reply from Fisheries stated that Gurnard are not part of the demersal bag limit and that they fall into the mixed bag limit category.  Yes it's confusing!!   

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Know a few spike victims

Wed, 2018-03-14 22:24

 Got done with a flathead,  hurt a bit and rubbed the belly on it.  Don't reckon it did much, if anything although told it is a pain reverser. Mate stood on a dead gurnard washed up and well-decomposed and pissed in a bucket and reckons it did sweet FA. Heard people get popped by various stingy things and i have heard various claims to success and failure. Deep down i feel if ya piss wont rid ya tinea you were told to piss on then its got less chance of working hehe. Otherwise try whatever and fingers crossed ! 

Does anyone know if it is a similar type of venom between most fish or do venomous species all have unique unrelated venom ?

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 Heat is supposed to break

Thu, 2018-03-15 05:39

 Heat is supposed to break the venom down so Hezzys bucket of hot water is the rigjht idea but needs to happen as early as possible.

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yeh , i knew hot water was

Thu, 2018-03-15 09:59

yeh , i knew hot water was the go , problem is when your out to sea its abit hard to find any , unless you have a thermos or stove handy

outboard tell tale is not hot enough to do the job .....so it took about 2 hours before i could dunk it ,

hezzy

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 what we do now to avoid the

Thu, 2018-03-15 10:50

 what we do now to avoid the fish jumping too much is put the bugger in the net then remove the hook. limited space limits its chance of moving.

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when spiked by these guys, is

Thu, 2018-03-15 11:41

when spiked by these guys, is it just the pain that's the issue, or is there anything more sinister you need to worry about?

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rather good link on these

Thu, 2018-03-15 12:14

rather good link on these stings/spikes , the expected outcomes and treatment of them below
hezzy

https://www.fishingboating-world.com/n/Marine-bites-and-Stings/-96671?source=google.au

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Been hit hard a few times,

Thu, 2018-03-15 12:27

Been hit hard a few times, its the pissing blood that i hate...But no such thing as pain on a boat when your fishing!!

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      Bahaaa.....Exactly what

Thu, 2018-03-15 18:10

 

 

 

  

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 I got spiked by a flat head

Thu, 2018-03-15 12:28

 I got spiked by a flat head a few years back, that smarted for a while

 

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 Been done by a little flatty

Thu, 2018-03-15 18:23

 Been done by a little flatty flicking it off. Cooked it with hot coffe cup. Since then carry a 12volt kettle on board. Heard on fishing programme anything from sea that stings cook it with hot water as hot as u can stand it. If land based ice pack  

 

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 We catch quite a few but I

Thu, 2018-03-15 18:51

 

We catch quite a few but I try and keep them at arms length, particularly since I heard the story of a local guy who begged medical staff to cut his arm off after a good spiking, ouch

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Brother copped one

Fri, 2018-03-16 21:40

 

 

  Had to bring my brother in from around 24kms out after getting stung in the hand. He was on the floor of the boat and at one stage.I thought he had carked it. 

  We had his missus meet us at the boat ramp with some HOT water and that provided instant releif from the pain.

 I always figured he deserved that one because earlier that trip he held a Mutton bird up behind my head as a joke and when i turned around it latched onto my lip!!!

 Yes I did offer to piss on his sting and YES I would have accidently pissed on his head given the chance

 

 

 

  

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index finger is still swollen

Tue, 2018-03-20 12:03

index finger is still swollen and sore at both knuckle joints , can fully bend it either , small amount of pain still associated with it at joints

so it hangs on for a while

hezzy

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 not much fun at all. i

Tue, 2018-03-20 13:18

 not much fun at all. i thaught the cobbler spike was bad enough . def dont want to get a full on spike by one of them . pity tho as they do taste good

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Cut then off

Mon, 2018-04-02 09:13

All nasty spikey things including sea snakes get cut off while still in the water alongside the boat, I'ld rather replace a rig than get stung by any more fish. They all hurt like bloody hell.