Imported 25 foot trophy way too big!!
Gday fellas,
I have just recently finished importing a 2005 Trophy pro 2502 walk around from America. I have converted everything to Aussie standards so everything is licensed, everything is running perfect and she is absolutely beautiful. Handles rough weather like a dream, cruises at 35 knots with ease, everything that you would want in a boat....... Apart from 1 thing..... It is way bigger than I expected.
I looked around at 25 foot boats in Perth before I baught it and the ones I checked out didnt seem anywhere nearly as big as the Trophy... The trips that I was planning to Exmouth, Kalbarri ect will take me a hell of alot longer to get there and alot more in fuel $$ towing the big rig. So now I am stuck in 2 minds whether to keep her and put up with the slow tow speeds and big fuel bill or trade her in on a smaller (probibly alluminium) 23 footer that I can tow easier. I have already been offered $65k trade in price on a new boat so thats a good start. You dont often hear about someone complaining that their boat is too big! haha
Anyway there is probibly not much point to this post but I did want to let everyone who is thinking about importing a boat know that it is pretty easy and safe to do and I would have no hesitation in doing it again! However it is important that you do your research and have some extra money put aside because there are little costs here and there that you dont budget for that you have to pay. Its only $100 here $100 there but it adds up!!
Also if anyone wants to buy a 25 foot trophy let me know!!
Cheers guys!
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sammy85
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What's the motor on it mate
What's the motor on it mate
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Piggy
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Hey mate!It has twin 135 merc
Hey mate!
It has twin 135 merc optimax with all the smart craft technology.... Only has 200 hrs and they run like a dream!!!
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trymyluck
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Hey mate ..are you
Hey mate ..are you comfortable telling us how much you saved by importing this. I have looked into doing the same, its hard to get good advice, most guys will just say " ohh you need to be careful " yes well thats obvious, but there are still people doing it, like you Ive considered Indo, China And Thai. Im not ready to buy just yet but would like to look at it closer when I have somewhere to store it. cheers
allrounder
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After a bit of research into
Construction standards and the possable new insurance issues i will stick with giving Aussie guys a job.Even if it means you pay a premium for it.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Rob H
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what are the insurance
what are the insurance issues?
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Vinesh87
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Haha yep thats why i imported
Haha yep thats why i imported a 2152 !! I can assure you there is no insurance issue unless your towing it illegally.
kane
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nah never too big!!!!!
no such thing as too big!! ive got the 2359 - bloody love it, but bigger is always better haha got a 260hp inboard pushing mine along, does take a bit to get her on the plain so i imagine you would have similar problems with that big girl, will look at putting on a stainless prop some day to try and help with this
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Kane's boat is a beauty and
Kane's boat is a beauty and catches serious fish!
The inboard is a pearler, you do not even know it is there!
kane
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Too kind mate
Just got the raymarine whiz bang electronics / 1kw transducer on order now. Will be slaying them soon! Are you back in Perth or still in Europe????
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glastronomic
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Back from Europe and doing a
Back from Europe and doing a refurbishment on my tub with all new gear.
Engine bay ready for the new powerplant.
designing/making the new operating hub/console.
Replaced the bulkheads with plastic board.
still lots to do
What Ray Marine system are you installing?
kane
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not wanting to hijack this thread....
a raymarine c120w head unit, 1kw tranny but scratching my head which one to choose..... in hull wet box or through hull.... :P
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allrounder
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Been a fair few issues with imports
Insurance companys will react sooner or later. Just a rumour at this stage but when the substructure isnt as strong as the aussie build boats you will have issues. Aussies build aussie tough boats and we treat our gear alot different here than there.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
brenz
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tony is on the money there
tony is on the money there ...... The build on an import is no where near as strong as an aussie boat.
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Doooma
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Trade her in
Trade her in on a newer 21 foot keywest!!
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Agreed..
Agreed brenz - I heard they sell river boats and the guys import them not knowing the difference and the banging on the sea breaks up the structure of the boat making them dangerous... it will be like the imported chinese scooters, no-one besides Swan Insurance will insure the crap!
Once again, someone willing to spend good $$$ on something they know is a proven brand, and in good nick, may save themselves a few $$'s - Vinesh posted his boats import history a few weeks ago, and it seems he is quite happy, so i guess you just need to know what you are buying... and make sure you get a good brand.... not like some cheap ass lures that get hawked on here often .... LOL!
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The size of the boat and the
The size of the boat and the weight is always a trade off and sadly here in the West we have to travel large distances to get to our wonderfull subtropical fishing grounds like Shark Bay and further north.
Any boat over 2.3 ton becomes difficult to transport over 1000+ km.
The fact of boat build quality is that you get what you pay for and both Australia and USA have good and not so good boat builders.
Bruce
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They have a great ride and no
They have a great ride and no ally boat (that I'm aware of) will have as good a ride as a glass boat
glass = heavy + good ride
ali = light + not so good ride
Good luck with the choice
Piggy
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Hey guys,First of all had no
Hey guys,
First of all had no dramas with insurance, all sweet. Club marine insured the boat strait away a well as the trailer ect. All it had to do is meet Australian standards which have all been complied to.
Secod of all about the build quality... Whether your buying a trophy boat from Australia or a trophy boat from America, chances are that are made in the same factory, using the same quality fibre glass and resin materials and same designs. There are alot of rumours with importing a boat but if you use an Australian based broker, get a boat that the brand has a good reputation, get independent surveying and engine checks done then it is as safe as houses!
With the saving I made on this boat I am unsure what I would have saved until I sell it... Its all well and good saying its valued at X amount but what you sell it for is a different story. The cheapest trophy I can find like mine is $79k over in Victoria, and I want $10k less than that if I sell it. I didn't save anywhere near half like some of the other stories that I have heard, not even a quarter... But the experience of importing a boat was pretty cool and the excitement over the 3 month period while I was waiting for it was intense!!
Some people choose local boats and some choose importing, I got an absolutely beautiful boat so I am extremely happy with importing, but if ur looking at trying to save half the value on a boat and want to pay bottom dollar that's probibly where you might find that the boat you import is a dud!!
Sorry for any typing errors im on an iPhone and the self correct is crap!
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trymyluck
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I have no doubt the guys
I have no doubt the guys importing from USA like Piggy, will in the long run result in all of us buying cheaper boats here in Australia. That has already starting to happen with some shops downgrading their operations and providing the same service with a leaner operation and better value to the comsumer. I personally dont care to buy from a huge blingy showroom because all that is passed on to us in the price of the boats.
In time Aussie businesses will set up their operations in Asia and provide better pricings for us using the cheaper labour in Asia, like the rest of the world already enjoys. Its crazy that you can import a boat like a Trophy and import to here and still save money ... how can that be ??? Freight, Insurance and quality issues will all be sorted in time and it will become the norm IMO.
It doesnt mean the Aussie manufacturers arent doing their best and providing great boats .. It just means there are better options coming. IMO. Already it is quickly becoming a realistic option to buy all the way from the US of A and save money and get a great boat...Wait until the asian markets get onto it !
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Beautiful boat mate.. and Im
Beautiful boat mate.. and Im sure this is the one Im after on my longish term goals... although I was after the 5.7 sterndrive, and does this model come with the optional flybridge... Ive only seen one and fell in love with it... so technically I dont actually know which Trophy it is thats on my bucket list.. but I want a Trophy!!
My Bro in law is also in the market for a Trophy... cashing in long service etc, Im thinking he said about 6.5m but Ill let him know yours is up for grabs and see what he thinks
Troy
Piggy
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Great point Trymyluck
It is a great point you make there trymyluck.
Trailcraft I think it is, which use to be a Perth based company has already been sold to an Asian buyer, I was talking to the old owner of the company the other day and he mentioned that they can now produce boats up to $20k cheaper than previously and the build quality has not changed if not gotten a little better.... So there is food for thought!
Troy if your brother is keen let me know because I would prefer to sell it to someone rather than trade it in for $65k - $70k and the boat yard put their 10% extra on it!!
Also with the trophy stern drives I found that the deck space was very limited... just my opinion!!
Cheers guys!!
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Rod P
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As for Trailcraft, did he
As for Trailcraft, did he also tell you the boats are made cheaper. The standard has been reduced slightly and we are yet to see how the chaneg in Aluminium grade and welding is going to hold up compared to the Aus built Trailcrafts.
No longer have ali tanks now run plastic tanks. Ali is no longer the smae grade. Big difference.
mullinz
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God I am amused by some of
God I am amused by some of the posts in this thread. Insurance companies getting worried about the structure of American boats??? Do you know how long American made boats have been sold into Australia via distributors like challenge marine... American fibreglass boats are made to world class standards, Of course you'll always get the lower end quality boats like sea foxes, sea pro's etc but you're on another planet if you think Aus made boats are better made to suit our conditions, what a load of nonsense!
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haha well said mullinz, but
haha well said mullinz, but some people import bay boats without the research and then i agree but bw contender trophy etc etc all great quality. The americans work there offshore boats hard in big swells.
I like the I/O stand on it, sit on it, put a bbq on it and you can have swimdeck for diving its great !
kane
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Yep on the money mullinz
Don't go anywhere under 26 knots regardless of the sea state haha boat hasn't come apart yet nor look like even thinking about it!
Havent seen a single report On the news or elsewhere of an import breaking up at sea or otherwise - just alot of bullshit talk and scare mongering about overpriced Aussie boats :-)
Pay over a hundred grand for a 7 metre Aussie made tinny hahaha give me a 7 metre import glass boat for less than half that cost anyday ;-)
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trymyluck
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Yes thats the trouble when
Yes thats the trouble when you start trying to research buying a boat from overseas...people without any experience will tell you its not worth it,or but the frieght makes it too expensive and that "you have to be careful " ( I love that one !) Maybe a thread titled MY IMPORTED BOAT EXPERIENCE would be a valuable one. My thinking is to sit a couple of banana boats on top of each other to help save on freight and outfit here., sharing the costs with someone else.
Rod P
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The simple truth is the Yanki
The simple truth is the Yanki boats are built lighter. They are not designed to last for the same period of time. Yes a American sold boat is exactly the same as a Australian sold Yanki boat. (except for the quality of fuel it has used to date).
The insurance issue has been brought about by the amount of claims made. Once if you suffered hull damage whilst at sea they assumed you hit something. Even if there no proof of that. With a very big increase in hulls coming apart with no evidence of impact, they are now saying without evidence of impact you will not be covered. the biggest issue with this the hull support. For example. The industry standard in Aus is to run longitudinal stringers every 50cm apart. The US standard is 150 cm apart. They then use foam filling to support hull. Once foam starts to break down so will your hull.
Now they are nice boats and you get a lot for your money, but theyre not the same.
i should also say that there are good US boats. But normally they are not the cheaper ones imported.
Its like comparing a double brick house with a single brick house.
Not wanting a fight, just explaining
sammy85
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Hi guys I'm going to be in
Hi guys I'm going to be in the market for a new boat hopefully in the next few months and was just wondering if anyone has actually had hull damage to their import or has seen one that has damage. Just wondering as hearing of a lot of people talking about but haven't heard anything first hand. After reading this I am a bit confused as to where to spend my money.
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kane
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never seen it
seen a shit load of imports in Perth..... havent heard any horror stories of material failure :-) just scare mongering from people who spent waaaaaay too much money on local boats and try to justify it in my opinion.
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till
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One of the mobs down freo way
One of the mobs down freo way dropped a 26' wellcraft unloading it, then dropped the superstructure, so it does happen ;)
brenz
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trust!
hmmmm who am i going to trust? an import boat that if anything does happen your screwed or an australian company who if something happens you get a warrenty? the only people who are saying that there is absolutly NO difference in quality are the people that own an import....... Stand a reputable aussie made glass hull next to an import hit the sides of both and you will feel the differece straight away. as rod has also pointed out the stringer placements have 1 metre difference in import v ausie made boats.... the point of the matter is that you will generally not hear any "split or crack" stories come to the surface because a) the owner wont want to admit it because of the " i told you so " people and b) it is not in any retailers best interests to bag out or bring up issues of an oppositions product because it comes across as a bad vibe there fore stearing the customer away from there product (can also be seen as a sales push).
hayden
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Nice 1 brenz
Nice 1 brenz
Here is reason why I can't sell my australian built fiberglass hull. I'm not asking top dollar. it's 6.6 meter center console, been on market for 3 months. few lookers but most time wasters.... Mine is a solid built boat of off here in wa. now I have compared mine to imports and it shits on my mates trophy he has.... I still ask myself why can't I sell it. reason, too many imports hit the market killing us here or there are some guys asking a high price for a 5.0 to 6.0 meter. theyre asking what im asking. 30k now thats over priced, mine not so much....Don't get me wrong I wanna buy a bay boat but not for awhile
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Mixed responses
Cheers for all the replies guys!
There seems to be alot of mixed responses and opinions in regards to import and Aussie boats. I dont really have a preference, I would have no hesitation in importing another boat or buying a local boat. In fact if I get to sell my trophy I will probibly buy my mates 21 foot Genesis which is locally made!!
As for the discussion on build quality, my trophy is brilliant... I work with engineers and a mate of mine is a structural engineer who designs and engineers underground shot crete and bunkers. He checked out my boat, did xrays, NDT testing and surveyed the inner and outer structure and he said it was built like a tank (probibly explains the fuel bill towing it!! haha) In saying that tho, I am not saying it is better or worse than Aussie built boats I am just saying its build quality is extremely good!
Keep the posts coming. I am enjoying the reading!!
cheers boys!
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Vinesh87
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Yep love my trophy, its
Yep love my trophy, its solid.
Not bias at all love aussie boats would buy one if a could afford what i wanted, but glad i imported mine.
I am not saying your wrong but very interested for some of you to back you facts up, there is no way that with the internet these days that if a bw trophy sailfish grady split in half is aus because of weak structural integrity that it would not be all over the media if not just the internet. Local suppliers would love it, i know i would.
tiimmbo
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Are people getting
Are people getting warranty's on second hand boats from the manufacturer here in aus ?
tot
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so piggy and vinesh, if you
so piggy and vinesh, if you were to discover the build of your hulls has the stringers at 3 times the distance apart from the aussie boats what would you then think of the quality of the aussie boats?
it would be obvious why they cost more if they have more materials and labour yes??
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Piggy
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Doubt it
Timbo,
Most second hand dealers offer some sort of warranty but probibly not a manufacturers warranty, unless the manufacturers warranty period is still valid.
As for boats from America, if you buy the boat from a registered marine dealer in the US it is in the Australian fair trade agreement that if the boat doesnt match what is on the survey report or any condition report that is supplied to you prior to purchasing the boat, then you can launch legal action against the dealers license which could result in the license being suspended or severe fines to the lincensee party (This does not comply to brokers)..... That was part of the reason I didnt believe people were buying boats and getting them here and the hulls would fall apart, unless they were bought privately or privately through a broker!!!
Cheers
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Vinesh87
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Thats fine if my boat has
Thats fine if my boat has less stringers, i don't build build boats trophy would have a few more clues than i do seeing as they have built a few boats. The material saving wouldnt be much at all for a company and a reputation if they felt the safety was at risk. I have heard of american hulls cracking because they were send in a cradle on there side, not how they were intended to ride. What boat would like being put on its side!
till
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Cradling a boat on it's side
Cradling a boat on it's side is probably less force than copping a wave side-on.
Piggy
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Tot,I am not denying that
Tot,
I am not denying that different aspects within the build specs and build quality would be different, I am just saying that I had an independant engineer survey the hull and he said it was built like a tank.... im not saying it is any better or worse than an Aussie built boat!!
And of course using more material is more expensive, but it also depends on what the purchase price of the raw material is..... in Australia raw materials may be more expensive!!
As for labour in Australia the average annual wage is 26% higher than in America thus making labour for ANYTHING in Ausralia more expensive.... you can thank the Australian government and taxes for that one!!
So all I am saying is there are arguments for and against...... All I know is that I got a really nice boat!! hahah
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tot
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piggy i agree
and yes she's a beauty!
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Yeh fair enough, just a case
Yeh fair enough, just a case when one hull cracked from what i read !
kane
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cradling a boat on its side??
haha stupidest thing i ever heard!
i would imagine if a boat started cracking it would be all over the forums in no time... strangely enough havent seen one news story ever about an import boat breaking up at sea, havent heard anything on the forums apart from the occasional haines hunter die hard elitist saying "i wouldnt if i were you" generally bullshit 200th hand chinese whisper stories from people that dont know shit from clay. at least when im not sure about something im more than happy to ask and i often do haha!!, some people on here just waffle shit whether they know what theyre talking about or not ;-)
Piggy - thats a v8 turbo diesel landcruiser in the background there.... i hear theyre thirsty on the juice at the best of times, even tough i still would love one! haha id keep the boat if i were you mate, she looks like a beauty! screw the fuel bill! :-)
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I went for ali and yes the
I went for ali and yes the ride is not as good as glass .But you will not get the deck space on a glass boat that i have on any yank boat. I hate the way they are set up for fishing .Great for rotto maybe but for fishing diving dont,like. The 25footer in the pic ,lot of wasted space.You will get there faster but you to will burn double the fuel.JMO
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piggy whats your fuel economy
piggy whats your fuel economy ? I am stoked with mine towing with the jeep around 14l/100. and very happy with the boats.
Paul i will give you the deck space issue allthough i like my layout i would like more deck space, cant wait for a swimdeck for diving. Can sleep underneath and store everything but next boat will be capable of 3 swags on the deck !
Piggy
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Naa it's not a 200 series
Naa it's not a 200 series its a troops, still has the v8 turbo but! Fuel economy is great... Better than any smaller diesel 4.2 until you start towing, then it gets thirsty!!
As for the boat I don't know the fuel economy just yet, I havnt really bothered checking.... I havnt noticed it is excessive tho! The deck space isn't the best but Im pretty happy with the space I have!!
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Rod P
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Well i guess time will tell.I
Well i guess time will tell.
I will say this. American boats aren't built cheaper because they cant build them better. They are built to fit into there economy and the life span so that a new boat is purchased every ten to fifteen years. That's how they keep the price down by simply building and selling so many.
The issue in WA seems to be that the boats are being used in conditions that are not as rough as the states. The other point is people than push them hard into rough conditions making it even worse.
Local repairs love them, has created a bit of a boom industry for them.
kane
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have you worked in the gulf of mexico?
i have, the conditions here are no worse....
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Rod P
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No but I've travelled to the
No but I've travelled to the Miami International boat show, Spent time down the keys, spoke with many American dealers and know loads of Perth's shipwrights.
kane
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Haha
The sea conditions here are still no worse no matter who speaks to or knows who ;-)
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From what i hear the reason
From what i hear the reason they run so many 2 strokes and supercharged 4's is because they smash there boats through massive swells and breakers ? No facts backing that up just what i read.
Ill let you all know when my trophy cracks...
Vin
Troy Summers
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Yours was solid as through
Yours was solid as through some pretty shit weather on sat man..
After all this, do TROPHY's get made in oz, or are they all imported, Bayliner are a pretty big name, with lots of different boats.. I figured they were all imported like many others...
If theyre all imported, then why would buying/importing ya own be any different apart from its now proven, and hopefully on a trailer... and still fuckloads cheaper than any locally bought same!! Now picture me talking my cheese n kisses into buying a real boat, MY trophy, not the temp I currently own... and she knows how u got yours Vin, Im prob gonna go down the same path, just gotta get her OK!!
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cant wait till someone on
cant wait till someone on here says they are importing a chinese boat hahahaha - insurance issues, local conditions worse than china haha
i looked at importing a boat from china in 2009 - essentially it looked like a a Beneteu knock off (euro design) when they sent me the pics of the factory and i saw workers laying up glass barefeet and no protective clothing i just couldnt bring myself to create further demand for those conditions! + the boat would be worth fk all after you lot have dished out some disrespect hahhaha
I can just see my ad on the foresale section on FW -
Chinese import forsale ........... no no no really guys wait... its built for our condtions and the insurance company will love you :-)
Vinesh87
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Good comparison, biggest boat
Good comparison, biggest boat builder in the world vs chinease never been heard of knockoffs
macca85
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have had my key west for over
have had my key west for over a year now, and hasn't missed a beat. Only one aussie boat builder offered a fibreglass equivalent to what i imported, and it was 3 foot shorter, rated 130hp less and they wanted nearly 20k more than what i got mine for. Could have bought a spare 150 yammy with the difference.......don't have to be a rocket scientist to know what decision to make.
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Yanks seem to do a lot more
Yanks seem to do a lot more hours than most Aussies. Nothing to see a 2 or 3 year old boat with 1200 hours. That's 10 years use for the average Aussie rig.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
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I thought it was the
I thought it was the opposite, cos much of the US has only about 3-5 months boating season?
Personally with a 4 stroke I reckon its better to have a 2 year old outboard with 500 hours than a 10 year old with 100 hours.
Most of the modern 4S outboards, its lack of use not overuse thatll kill them.
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Depends on the area they are
Depends on the area they are in.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
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i will swap you for my sf
i will swap you for my sf 6.55mtr southwind mate, even though it has them stinking black juice guzzling anchors on the back...lol
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oooh... I see that one and
oooh... I see that one and will have first dibs at deckie duties mate... Ill swap ya for mine if ya really keen!!
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yoyo piggy
ill skipper her for you mate :-)
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Piggy
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Haha I have no drama with
Haha I have no drama with skippering the rig or taking it places, just mainly want it to be smaller so I can go long distances up north without the fuel bill towing it!! Looks like I will keep her, will probibly take ages to sell if I go ahead with it!!
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The idea of huge power in the
The idea of huge power in the states is more to do with the low cost of fuel, that coupled with many offshore fishing boats will run long distances of shore and due to lack of seas they run at speed.
For the record a Aussie imported Yank boat or a US sold Yank boat are exactly the same..
Chinese boats again, don't get me started there..
Again though there are great made Chinese boats but they don't get imported, due to the fact that they are just as expensive. So we just buy the cheap sh-t.
tot
Posts: 1159
Date Joined: 31/01/10
huge power - most seem
huge power - most seem underpowerd? . Single 150 on 21ft+ glass boats cant be that economical at speed ??
Reverse cycle a/c supply and install - Ducted and wall splits
Piggy
Posts: 549
Date Joined: 24/08/12
power
Yeah mine only has twin 135's on it and I think that is a little under powered...... there are others the same as mine with twin 200.... but your paying another $30k plus ontop of what i paid!!
I go boating not fishing
Vinesh87
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Date Joined: 02/04/11
Yeh tot some american boats
Yeh tot some American boats are really underpowered. E.g most 21ft trophy's with a 135 merc lol
But then theres some with huge power but mainly 2 stroke
i opted for the 220hp on my 21 ft
Rod P
Posts: 725
Date Joined: 20/05/08
The low powered boats seem to
The low powered boats seem to be much cheaper as not as desirable in the US. So they get sold cheap over seas..
The Aussie market has saved the American marine industry like you wouldn't believe. They run workshops in the states for dealers on how to cash in on the export dollar.
Magneto
Posts: 21
Date Joined: 08/01/06
Insurance report
A few years ago there was a report on the net based on the aftermath of a cyclonic storm which threw around a hell of a lot of moored boats and the conclusion was that the newer type builds (foam sandwich type) had to be written off with the accessor stating that the foam sandwich build type was much more easly damaged that they did not stand up the rough treatment when compared to the boats damaged that where of the old build standard also the older standard was much more likely to be repaired where the other was written off. If u bother it may still be around to read but I do not have the link..Cheers
till
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Date Joined: 21/02/08
That's more about the fact
That's more about the fact its hard to get in behind the glass to do repairs, they all have to be done from the finish side of the glass.