isnit just me or what
Submitted by petermac on Wed, 2016-01-20 20:33
is it just me or do other people think something stinks with our state govement they gave 2 mill to rebuild yarloop but can still afford to build lizzy key for 2 billion dollars , nobody from yarloop will see that money it will be administered by faceless state employee's scared to send out some money in case they get a kick in the arse
Travisd
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Greasy palms
2 billion plus some What a joke!
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sea-kem
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It's called investment.
It's called investment.
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petermac
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investment ?????
cant see them allowing you to open up a boily shop on lizzy key mate you will just have to struggle with outrageous shed prices where you are , its a joke (sorry I know you are small business trying to make good) maybe you should open 1 of the 20 coffee shops that are going to be there b. Lizzy key is our biggest waste of money this state has ever spent
Matt T
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Yarloop
Why should the $2m be going to Yarloop residents? Wouldn't it be used for rebuilding government buildings ect there?
If my house burns down should I get the tax payers to pay for it?
Don't get me wrong, I really do feel for anyone that has lost property down there (not to mention lives, stock, pets, personal possessions - that is impossible to measure) but Peter, do you think the government (all of us) should pay for all the losses?
petermac
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offcouse i dont
but 2 million is a miserable contribution our state government is miserable , think pour Ryan Marron a copper posted to the Kimberleys and gets bitten by a mozzie ,and gets realy crook no chance of recovery and left to fend for him self now after his two years compo has run out
Willlo
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i personally would rather my
i personally would rather my money sorry tax go to rebuild Yarloop rather than Barnett's pet projects that i will never use
But I'm a bit biased in that Barnett has never done a thing for country wa, petermac for once i agree
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Matt T
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Growth & Investment
It's all about growth and investment in the future Willlo, the road from Exmouth to Broome has never been travelled by me (but I would love to!) but that cost a huge amount of money! With the same thinking we should have never of spent that money as you can fly to Broome for a few hundred. But that road sure generates a lot of money via tourism and WA people travelling. Pretty good investment really.
It really sux that Yarloop and the surrounding areas were hit with such a devastating fire.
Bit should we restrain from progress in case something like this happens?
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Well said Matt. Yep I'm all
Well said Matt. Yep I'm all for hepling out our country friends it's a big state and everyone should get a slice of the pie. Unfortunately the big spenders are interested in the city not country towns unless there's a buck to be made there (think mining) But I also believe a lot of money has been squanderd by not only this gov but previous gov's as well. Infrastructure is the key to this state escpecially roads.
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Subaquatic
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Yarloop belongs to Alcoa. It
Yarloop belongs to Alcoa. It will never be rebuilt as its within their "inner zone".
As stated above, Elizabeth quays is an investment that will generate revenue. Shelling out cash to those who were not insured generates nothing.
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What is the return for
What is the return for investment with Lizzy Quay as opposed to Yarloop?
Property sales, rental, gst for decades Vs a town full of businesses and houses that would have/should have been insured?
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i wonder if you would be
i wonder if you would be thinking the same way if the fire rolled through harvey and Binningup up as well, it's not always about revenue and how much cash can be made
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Close call
Most forget that the big desalination plant that supplies water to all is situated close to Binningup, would be a different call on priorities then. Most of the money will go to restoring infrastructure that has been burnt out and providing services for the other 40-50 houses that weren't burnt down, don't they deserve to be looked after as well
Never been a fan of the money losing Dickies Stick, [the bell tower] or Betty's Jetty [Elizabeth Quays; or sinking Perth railway station because someone thought it was a good idea at the time and in the long run costs all of us a vast sum of money.
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My point was that Alcoa
My point was that Alcoa don't want Yaloop there. It falls under area B of the SPPP. They will not rebuild anything they own, and will see this as an opportunity to solve a problem. Why throw good money at something that isn't going to happen. Yaloop is finished unfortunately.
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Debono would say your Wearing the financial hat in this case.
You're looking at this from a purely financial perspective. The Government administrates the collective taxes of the state of which the residents of Yarloop contribute. Rebuild the town BUT not in the inner zone near Alcoa Residents of Yarloop have long complained of illness or down to being located too close to the refinery. The one thing that should come out of this is the relocation of the town site away from Alcoa... Never a better opportunity than now. Alcoa should come to the party. .. damage and lots to their houses and their replacement would be a tax write of to their company. .. id they actually pay any tax that is.... lol
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Sure worked for Wittenoom.
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The town of Yarloop was there
The town of Yarloop was there way before Alcoa!
I personally think Alcoa should be contributing to the rebuild of the town in a big way and should not take for granted the fact that they have probably ignored it's importance in the past, and contributed to some of it's problems.
Now is a big time for Alcoa to stand up!
On another note, this town first needs to deal with the huge aspestos problem due to it being such an old town. Not only the people who lost their homes to the fire but those that didn't will be condemned anyway from returning because of this problem.
Unfortunately the town was made up of Alcoa workers, but also a lot of old timers who spent all their life there and now will find it hard to be re-located. People also forget that this region is a major beef and milk producing area and not just the town was damaged but many properties that are prime producers.
Last but not least, the Yarloop Workshops were about to be world heritage listed because they were by far and above anything else of it's type anywhere in the world. No! I'm not a Greeny but this town was based around the timber industry from years ago and was a major hub in it's day and that my friends is something that needs to be preserved or remembered as it's part of our history. It's part of how the South West was built and history well before Alcoa.
I know I'm drifting from petermacs origional post but to compare this to another project? We could do this with anything and any project and have long arguments forever.
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Subaquatic
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Do you honestly think Alcoa
Do you honestly think Alcoa have moral ethics as part of the plan in a diminishing market????
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"Do you honestly think Alcoa
"Do you honestly think Alcoa have moral ethics"
Could have just finished it with the above.
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I'm agreeing with you but
I'm agreeing with you but just saying what I think they should do.
I know reality and fantasy are 2 different things.
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alcoa ??
Does heaps for charity and community's all the time. Been with them for 29 years now. No dought in my mind 1 way or another they will help in some way.:):):).
Willlo
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Spoke to a local from
Spoke to a local from Yarloop today and was told it's home for them and always will be. The town has been there for a hundred years well before alcoa was even thought of. Barnet and footy oval Lizzie key etc waste of money.
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All the time
Been on this site. Still waiting for fish pick from petermac?????????. No politics fish , just 1:):):) come in peter 1 fish( new)
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Agreed
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uhmm ok johnny
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Ha ha nicely summed up
Ha ha nicely summed up fellas
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Sea Hunter
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money
If it is investment in the future that barnett is working towards, why has he cut so much from public education and other essential services? Remember that the cuts in public education is what the schools get to buy stuff for educational purposes, nothing to do with wages.
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These cuts have been made
These cuts have been made accross the board in all gov departments as revenue has fallen so sharply. No point whinging about the the major projects as they would have been budgeted for. Or we can all sit back and be a backwater, boring state with nothing to offer tourists who will be and need to be a revenue source.
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Timing of project
perfect timing with resources industry in downturn mode. Large investments fill the employment gap this has created. Well done I say as our economy would be up the spout without this investment.
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Spot on.
Spot on.
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Yep. Imagine the unemployment
Yep. Imagine the unemployment if there was no stadium, quay and gateway projects.
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totally agree
its a judgment call , cant please everyone
petermac
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barrnet is looking for a knight hood
Barnett has been Premier for way to long unfonately no other talent coming through the liberal party to replace him , saying that I am a member of the labor party and our talent is even more thin on the ground , you don't get a good government unless you have a good opposition , that's why Barnett has got his way for so long
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Remember when Howard had been
Remember when Howard had been PM for too long? Remember how that went when we wanted change?
Turned to shit pretty quickly
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Labour had their turn.
Remember when Alannah Mac Tiernan had the cheque book in her hand spent a lot of revenue on expansion of infrastructure, did some good things for Perth and surrounding areas. What has Barnett done so bad to this state? No government could have forecasted such a big down turn in revenue from our states resources. Got to spend and expand to keep people employed and the economy turning over. When the majority of the voters have had enough of the little emperor he'll get voted out.
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Yep nicely put Wes
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Ruddy spends all our money on
Ruddy spends all our money on Big Screen TV's, dodgy school repairs and cheap Pink Batts and he is hailed as a hero.
Colin spends all our money on long term investments and infrastructure and he is labelled a moron.
You can never win this argument with a Labour Voter.
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lol labour liberal whoeva
lol labour liberal whoeva country always second to city
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