Landcruiser 200

After a few years of service i think it is time to move on from the discovery 3.

I am considering a replacement tow vehicle. it will need to tow 3.5T.

The front runner at the moment is the LC200. I will probably go for a 2nd hand one, but before i head down this route, was wandering if anyone could let me know how much they paid for a new one (I will probably go for a GXL but am considering a VX just for the KDSS).

I did consider the jeeps, however they look a little small inside after having the disco.

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Lots

Fri, 2016-10-07 10:14

Our new 200 GXL is due in Perth around the middle of the month.

Drive away price is about 91k. Non kdss. Metalic paint.

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Have a look

Fri, 2016-10-07 10:16

Westside Auto Wholesales have some very good second hand ones from time to time....

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 i got my altitude for

Fri, 2016-10-07 10:21

 i got my altitude for $93,000 from memory, no KDSS but it has leather interior and the fridge cooler in the front which to me is more important. i put air bags in the back and no sagging when i was towing my 8mtr boat. 

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I paid very similar for an

Fri, 2017-08-04 13:27

I paid very similar in 2013. Best car I have ever owned. Will probably be for sale soon. One thing to watchout for is the GVM on the 200 series. The majority of 200's out there towing a load would like be uninsured in an accident. Such a big car only has a payload of 550kg (dry). 130kg of Diesel, 2 x 80 kg Adults, 2 x 40kg Kids, 50kg Bullbar, 20kg Roofrack, 150kg of tow ball weight and all of a sudden your vehicle is overloaded 10kgs without any camping gear, bags, 4wd drawers, shopping etc!

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 No doubt the Jeeps are a tad

Fri, 2016-10-07 10:46

 No doubt the Jeeps are a tad smaller than the Cruiser but don't discount them too quickly.

I have just returned from a 2 week trip to Coral Bay towing a 3.5t boat. I took a couple of guys with me. One is 6'1" and the other is 6' neither are small guys. One is a 200 series owner and the other is a Disco 3 owner. Both were impressed with the Jeep for comfort, power and economy. Neither felt cramped at any time.

The Jeep will actually carry slightly more cargo weight than the Cruiser but yes it is overall smaller. Like everything it's a trade off. I gave up a bit a room to get something easier to drive, pulls as good as a diesel Cruiser, is waayyyyy more economical, about 10 litres per 100 less (towing) and is $20k less than a Cruiser with much more fruit.

Some people are put off by the bad press on Jeeps from some years ago but the latest models are proving to be significantly more reliable. I am 2 years in and not even a scent if trouble. There are plenty of other members on this forum that would support this. Mind you, you do get the occasional bad one but that's no worse than any other make.

My two bobs worth. Good luck with your choice.

 

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Was looking for a second hand

Fri, 2016-10-07 12:53

Was looking for a second hand 2014/15 LC200 TTD Sahara for about 2 months.

Took plenty for test drives and couldnt bring myself to spend the coin on a second hand vehicle.

Test drove the new model and was so glad i did.

Ended up buying a new VX a month ago from Big Rock Toyota. Easy decision in the end. Paid 98k for it.

The new VX comes with all the fruit the sahara has, minus a few wanky electronics i'd never use.

Unlike the old VX that were a GXL with leather and a few extra inclusions (kdss), the new model are based on the sahara.

You wont be able to tell the difference between the two when you have a look mate. 

I believe they have all been given a 2% price hike since i bought mine though.

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I got the 2013 Altitude same

Fri, 2016-10-07 14:09

I got the 2013 Altitude same as Eziliving's. Awesome tow rig. The is a very good thread on Lcool forum showing what everyone is paying for their 200's.

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country

Fri, 2016-10-07 17:10

 got a demo 2016 gxl with 1500 kms on it delivered to my front door from a country dealership for 78000 in new unmarked condition. DO NOT buy anything from a metro dealership as they are way more expensive. Country dealerships are far keaner to get business and will operate on lower margins. Suspension upgrade cost 2 g for old man emu 2 inch lift.

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excellent

Fri, 2016-10-07 22:12

Well done Gav, what dealership did you get it from ?

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 I've heard Manjimup does

Sat, 2016-10-08 05:26

 I've heard Manjimup does good deals. I got mine from rockingham Toyota and once the deal was done the sales rep didn't want to know you. I wouldn't go there again.  A bloke I know got his prado from there and it was delivered to Mandurah with a full tank. 

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 I have a 2014 200 series gxl

Fri, 2016-10-07 17:34

 I have a 2014 200 series gxl and also still have my 2005 100 series gxl I use as a work vehicle, 2 fantastic vehicles.

I had airbags installed in the 200 series after being flashed all the way up to Exmouth when towing the boat through the night, fixed the problem immediately 

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as noted above dont discount

Fri, 2016-10-07 18:08

as noted above dont discount the jeep. i am on my second one now (the first didn't blow up before anyone jumps in) and haven't had any dramas. my boat has been over the weighbridge at about 3.2 from memory without anything in there. i've towed it up from albany, to exmouth twice, to jurien twice and greenhead three times. with the boat on economy goes to about 20l/100km but without it can be as low as 7 and about 9 in town. had a limited for the first one before the lease ran out and have now got an overland. got a 2015 demo in april with 17kms on it for $68,500. has all the fruit you can think of, except the cooler box from the LC. also great to drive around town and easier to park that a LC. i bought a second hand set of rims and tyres for $1k for offroad and haven't had an issue, although what i do with it isn't extreme. 

 

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Its a conumdrum

Fri, 2016-10-07 20:20

 Just got back from Shark Bay mate, first trip with the new rig. All good. The problem you're looking at is the reason I've still got the TD42!  It still pulls like a schoolboy. 

Drop in next time you're up Hillarys way. 

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 I'll throw in another vote

Fri, 2016-10-07 20:44

 I'll throw in another vote for the jeep, not that I own one. My pop has the grand cherokee and it bloody pulls his big caravan like a freight train. Also runs on the sniff of an oily rag. Very impressed by it

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Thanks

Fri, 2016-10-07 23:16

thanks for the input.

I might go and have another  bo-peep at the jeep. It's been a while since I looked at them.

 I still have my heart set on some touring in a few years time and think the cruiser is maybe more reliable, or maybe the they just advertise better.

 

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 I think the numbers of them

Sat, 2016-10-08 05:25

 I think the numbers of them you see out on the road doing heavy towing do the advertising for them.

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 Don't forget the fridge that

Sat, 2016-10-08 07:55

 Don't forget the fridge that holds 9 coronas between the front seats. 

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Which dealership?

Sat, 2016-10-08 10:28

Country dealerships are far keaner to get business and will operate on lower margins. Suspension upgrade cost 2 g for old man emu 2 inch lift.

Certainly wouldn't have been Geraldton Toyota....

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 2012 Altitude here, very

Sat, 2016-10-08 14:36

 2012 Altitude here, very comfy mile eater and loves towing, big plus for me is the V8 diesel, exhaust and tune has made it a much better drive with a sweet V8 rumble.

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manjimup toyota

Sat, 2016-10-08 14:53

 was the dealer principals car and he was upgrading to the my16. They delivered it to my door and I handed over a bank cheque. Was advertised on car sales. Easy as and very easy to deal with. The city car yards were really arrogant and wanted top dollar.

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 Got the same arrogant crap

Sat, 2016-10-08 15:15

 Got the same arrogant crap from John Hughes when looking for my Wildtrak. Never go in there again.

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Sat, 2016-10-08 16:20

 I got my ute through them, it wasn't too bad, but all the aftermarket crap they try and sell you pissed me off. I get the same for free from getting my car serviced through a Ford place in Rocky.

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Manjimup

Sat, 2016-10-08 17:07

I have heard similar about manjimup (being good to deal with and well priced)....will contact them if/when the time comes to pull the trigger. Would much prefer to buy from country dealer anyway. 

 

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Speak to Eddie

Sat, 2016-10-08 17:23

at Manji Toyota bought new Toyota in 2009, great bloke to deal with

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Other way around

Sat, 2016-10-08 17:36

 I had a different situation when I bought a new ranger 9 months ago.

I live in Bunbury and got a price off the local dealer and then made one phonecall to a Perth dealer chosen at random and the price was $4350 cheaper at the Perth dealer.

As it turns out getting the ranger was a big mistake as it it an electronics nightmare

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 Funnily enough I've bought

Sat, 2016-10-08 18:20

 Funnily enough I've bought my last 3 toyotas at Pilbara Toyota in Hedland and couldn't be happier. Met and then beaten any price I was looking at even Australia wide. 

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 Love my 200 Series.  Long

Tue, 2016-10-11 22:39

 Love my 200 Series.  Long range fuel tank is a ripper. Dont  bother with KDSS imo. Just got back from the kimberlies and the rig performed better then  my other cars in my 3 previous trips.

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I have had two - both GXL's

Wed, 2016-10-12 10:37

I have had two - both GXL's an 07 which would use 5 litres (yes 5!!) of oil each way to Exmouth (towing 3 ton)- eventually fixed by dealer under warranty - traded it on a 2010 gxl and got the KDSS (is an option on the GXL)- round town you wont notice the difference on KDSS/non KDSS, on a long trip it is definitely more comfortable. I would not (my opinion) buy one with out KDSS if I had the choice.

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200 series is a great all

Sat, 2016-10-15 08:32

200 series is a great all rounder, I used mine for heavy towing for most of its life and it was great. I did the steering rack in it but other then that used no oil or anything. They are thirsty when you load them up, I would ave about 27-28lts per hundred. Lovells have just released a 4t tow upgrade for them, make sure you get a 3800kg GVM upgrade too. Great cars and I'll be looking at a new one again when they release the next model.

Just sold it for a F250 with the 7.3L PSD, much better on fuel and more suited for heavy towing, down side is there not an every day car. 

 

 

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Wild fuel figures but you

Sat, 2016-10-15 09:00

Wild fuel figures but you forgot to mention that it was lifted with 35's and towing 4t.

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 Theres no such thing as a

Sun, 2016-10-16 08:05

 Theres no such thing as a towing upgrade as far as i am aware?

Gvm upgrade too 3800kgs i had, but still cant tow more than 3500kgs or an i missing something?

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 Not sure if its available

Sun, 2016-10-16 08:49

 Not sure if its available yet but looks like an upgrade to 4 Tonne is on the way for the LC200. 

Ive emailed Lovells for deatils and will update this thread 

 

www.motoring.com.au/four-tonne-towing-for-landcruiser-103187/

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 Cheers StevoWill they

Sun, 2016-10-16 09:47

 Cheers Stevo

Will they upgrade the GCM?

Keep me informed!!

 

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 Pretty sure that Toyota

Sun, 2016-10-16 10:02

 Pretty sure that Toyota never listed a gcm for 200 series. Only just started with the my16's.

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 Must have one but?Same as

Sun, 2016-10-16 11:31

 Must have one but?

Same as the Jeeps it hard to find but they have one!

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Reply from Lovells

Mon, 2016-10-17 17:33

See below fro reply from Lovells Vinnie. 

 

They sent some more info including pricing but too hard to post. If anyones interested, Pm me your email amd I'll  forward it on.

 

  

 

 

Lovells are pleased to announce that we have been granted Federal Compliance Plate Approval as a Second Stage Manufacturer for the BTC (Braked Towing Capacity) Upgrade of the TOYOTA LANDCRUISER LC200 WAGON. (Build date 11/07 to current).

 

APPROVALS

40257-1190937- LC200 Diesel- 7 & 8 Seater (GXL, VX & Sahara)

40257-1190936- LC200 Petrol- 7 & 8 Seater (GXL, VX & Sahara)

46734-1191613- LC200 Diesel- 5 Seater (GX)

 

 

WHY DO VEHICLES REQUIRE BTC (Braked Towing Capacity) UPGRADES?

 

The solution for owners/managers of Toyota Landcruiser 200 Series Wagon vehicles who have a need to tow to 4000kg (up from 3500kg standard Braked Towing Capacity), while at the same time meeting the practical and documentary compliance requirements of Work Safety, Police Licensing, Insurance, Lessors and Fleet Managers.  This kit is complianced by the Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government and Federal Compliance kits come complete with a Second Stage Manufacturers compliance plate.        

 

Federal Compliance (pre-registration) and State Compliance (post-registration) BTC Upgrades can only be fitted to vehicles fitted with a Lovells 3800kg GVM Upgrade.                                

Lovells Toyota Landcruiser LC200 GVM Upgrade kits have been tested and approved for Full Volume Second Stage Manufacture to comply with ADR35/05 ESC (Electronic Stability Control) Sine with Dwell verification and are suitable for KDSS and non-KDSS variants.

 

Please refer to the attached documentation for Technical Information and ordering procedures.

 

 

Toyota Landcruiser 200 Series Wagon- GVM UPGRADE 3800kg- STATE COMPLIANCE

Recommended Retail price $3800.00 +GST. (this includes fitting by a Lovells Authorised Fitter for GVM Upgrades and Engineers inspection and State Transport documents/compliance).

Attached is our Overview for the 200 Series GVM Upgrade and our uprated axle loading capacities.

Note that The GCM (Gross Combined Mass) doesn’t form part of a Lovells GVM or BTC Upgrade or noted in our DIT Approval for Second Stage of Manufacture. It is basically governed by the new GVM of the vehicle and the maximum braked towing capacity.

 

The Original Equipment maximum braked towing capacity for example on the LC200 is 3500kg. This doesn’t increase nor decrease when our GVM Upgrade is fitted, it remains at 3500kg.

 

The new vehicle GVM becomes 3800kg (LC200) as noted in Lovells SSM (Second Stage of Manufacture for GVM Upgrade)

 

The factor that comes into play is the ball weight of the towed apparatus. Whatever the ball weight is, must be subtracted from the vehicles GVM.

 

Therefore, the vehicle can still tow up to OE 3500kg. If the ball weight is 200kg, the vehicle’s maximum GVM (with a Lovells GVM Upgrade kit fitted) will now be 3600kg for the LC200. GCM is not noted or listed as part of our Approval, thus we cannot publicise.

 

Whereas, when a Lovells BTC Upgrade is fitted, the vehicle can then tow up to 4000kg. Yet, if the ball weight remains at 200kg, the vehicle’s maximum GVM (with a Lovells GVM Upgrade kit fitted) will still be 3600kg for the LC200).

Expect approx. 30mm-50mm lift over OE, dependant on weight and location of accessories fitted.

 

IMPORTANT INFORMATION

 

FOR STATE COMPLIANCE ORDERS, THE VIN MUST BE PRE-CHECKED/CROSS REFERENCED BY LOVELLS TO VERIFY IT HAS A GVM UPGRADE FITTED PRIOR TO ORDER ACCEPTANCE/PROCESSING.

 

TRR-122HDAV REAR COIL SPRINGS CAN BE SUBSTITUTED BASED ON THE FOLLOWING:

- Vehicle is close to rear axle loading capacity of 2000kg

- Ball weight is greater than 300kg

- Vehicle ‘s primary use is for towing at maximum capacity

(This is a case by case option and should be asked prior to order placement).

 

 

Toyota Landcruiser 200 Series Wagon- BTC UPGRADE 4000kg- STATE COMPLIANCE

Stage 1 Kit- 3500kg-3700kg

Recommended Retail Price $3,000.00 ea +GST- (this includes fitting by a Lovells Authorised Fitter for BTC Upgrades and Engineers inspection and State Transport documents).

Kit includes height adjustable fabricated tongue and Lovells All Terrain Hitch.

(Ball weight must not exceed 350kg)

 

Not compatible with most weight distribution systems.

 

 

Stage 2 Kit- 3500kg-4000kg

Recommended Retail Price $3,900.00 ea +GST- (this includes fitting by a Lovells Authorised Fitter for BTC Upgrades and Engineers inspection and State Transport documents).

Kit includes a Lovells 1200lb Weight Distribution Hitch system (WDH), cast head, drop shank with 95mm height adjustment and Lovells All Terrain Hitch.                                     

(Ball weight must not exceed 400kg)

 

 

Please note that the Lovells BTC Upgrade can only be complied if a Lovells GVM Upgrade is fitted to the vehicle.

                                               

Lovells BTC Upgrade tongue/hitch, drop shank/hitch can only be attached to the Toyota OE Towbar and is not compliant for aftermarket tow bars.                                              

 

 

 

Warranty – Lovells Suspension and Towing Kits

Coil Springs                              5 year unlimited km

Leaf Springs                             5 year unlimited km

Shock Absorbers                      3 year/70.000km whichever occurs first

Suspension Components        2 year/40,000km whichever occurs first

Towing Components                2 year/40,000km whichever occurs first

 

 

Federal Compliance (pre-regsitration) Pricing is available upon request.

 

Please note that the lead time for BTC Upgrade Kits will be approximately 4-6 working weeks from receipt of official BTC Order Form attached, based on committed projects and contracts. We have pre-empted the popularity of these kits, thus stock levels of all components are considerable, yet lead time for compliance plates and packing times will govern the supply time.

 

 

W.A Suspension

28 Colray Avenue

Osborne Park, WA 6017

Ph. 08 9444 0500

 

Normally our Authorised Fitter will need the vehicle for a day and a half for modification/inspection and brake testing.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Mike

 

 

 

Mike Davison

 

Sales and Marketing Manager

 

Lovells Springs Pty Ltd
PO Box 5126
Minto BC
Unit 3, 25-31 Airds Rd
Minto NSW 2566
AUSTRALIA

 

Ph: +61 2 9820 6800
Fax: +61 2 9820 6788
E-Mail: miked@lovells.com.au
Web: www.lovells.com.au


 
 
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 With fuel figures like that

Sat, 2016-10-15 08:41

 With fuel figures like that you must have a petrol one hey ?

 

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Easy to achieve those figure

Sat, 2016-10-15 11:52

Easy to achieve those figure with a diesel. Worst I did was 30ltr per 100 ks back across the nullabor 120kms an hour with 3.5 tonnes van in tow and a headwind

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Yea ok. I just presumed the

Sat, 2016-10-15 12:18

Yea ok. I just presumed the diesels were a bit better than that on fuel although given the conditions you have described it brings things back into perspective. 

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 Nuh mate TTD with 3" lift

Sat, 2016-10-15 17:22

 Nuh mate TTD with 3" lift and 33"s and no roofrack. When I had the 35's, 4" and roofrack i was over 30lts per hundered with 3.5t on the back. The TC lockup kit would of helped but it didnt have it fitted then. Plenty of power to pull it all along still.

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Off topic but what lockup kit

Sat, 2016-10-15 18:07

Off topic but what lockup kit have you fitted Luke?

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 Richards auto mate. Fully

Sat, 2016-10-15 20:35

 Richards auto mate. Fully automatic operation with 2 speed settings.

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Cheers doing my homework on

Sun, 2016-10-16 06:20

Cheers doing my homework on them at the moment

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Matt Stockwell's kit seems to

Sun, 2016-10-16 06:33

Matt Stockwell's kit seems to be getting better reviews. I think that how I will be going.

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yes looking at his aswell

Mon, 2016-10-17 08:13

yes looking at his aswell seems to throw no codes unlike the Richards one. Plenty of info on LCOOL forum

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the magic letters you need to see are GCM

Sun, 2016-10-16 09:44

if they don't increase the GCM and nowhere in the article do they mention it, all that the upgrade means is that you can tow a 4 tonne trailer if you don't have anything in your car, eg. no fridge, passengers, luggage or fuel.

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 There was no GCM stated on

Sun, 2016-10-16 10:46

 There was no GCM stated on pre 2016 cars. Lovells have all the info on the upgrade.

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How many people need 4 tonne

Sun, 2016-10-16 14:05

and at a cost of nearly 7k with GVM doesn't mention gross combined mass increase just towing will Toyota warrant there cars with this increase

 

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 Toyotas are rated to tow

Sun, 2016-10-16 14:56

 Toyotas are rated to tow 3.8t in every other market in the world. 

How many people need 4t? Spent much time in Karratha lately? Exmouth around gamex time? Lots of 8m trailer boats around these days. 

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Lots of caravans over 20 foot

Mon, 2016-10-17 08:12

Lots of caravans over 20 foot are pushing 3500kg when loaded
My converted 200 series had a Gcm put on the rego papers of 6850 kgs when I transferred it to W.A. so technically with the 3800 gvm it shouldn,t tow more that 3 tonne

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Bit of a thread dig but...

Fri, 2017-08-04 13:45

Just wanted to share with you guys my recent experience with owning/buying a 200 series...

I owned a 2013 LC200 that currently has 92k on the clock and had a 4th Birthday last week. It's just out of fixed priced servicing, warranty and needs a full set of 5x $470 tyres. With only 1 year tax deduction left, I started looking at some of the sell prices around and did some research on LCOOL and decided to challenge myself to see what I could update for like for like. The car is pretty clean on the outside with some red dirt stained throughout the interior and roof lining etc... I've just sign off on a deal for a brand new replacement like for like options excluding an ARB bull bar that I fitted secondhand myself to the last one for $700. 

Changeover price of $22k. That works out to 5.5k per year to own and drive a LC200. I'll transfer all of my accessories (Compressor, airbags, roof rack, brake controller etc)

That's pretty cheap motoring in my book for a car of this caliber. My insurance has gone down by $420 for buying a brand new one, service costs are fixed at $280 for 80,000km and no need to replace the BFG tyres.

If you can afford the initial capital outlay and can shop hard for a decent price, these are awesome vehicles to own!

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hi mate sorry just to clarify

Fri, 2017-08-04 13:49

hi mate
sorry just to clarify - 22k change over to a new 200? - if so did you trade your old one or sell privately?

cheers

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Traded in... My car plus $22k

Fri, 2017-08-04 14:04

Traded in... No tyre kickers or Gumtree 70% offers. My 2013 car plus $22k for a 2017 TD LC200 (GXL).

It took some serious work and several dealers wouldn't go near it, but I had two on the hook.

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that's a great deal - I am at

Fri, 2017-08-04 14:04

that's a great deal - I am at the point of trade or keep and run into the ground - 2010 with 140,000- my change over would be a lot wider though!

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PM you...

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PM you...

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 I've got a 2010 with 100,000

Fri, 2017-08-04 14:22

 I've got a 2010 with 100,000 on the clock. I'd like to know when/if they are going to bring out an all new 300 series in the next 1-2 years before upgrading? Anyone know what the plan is?

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Given the lack of any

Fri, 2017-08-04 15:09

Given the lack of any concrete information available I reckon it'll be at least another 2-3 years. Photos of the new Hilux were kicking around the internet 2 years before it was released. Prado is getting a facelift in 2018 and those photos are out already, I reckon it'll be 2019 or 2020 for a full new model and all the testing and development work that happens on the road prior to release.

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 yep, I havn't heard a thing

Fri, 2017-08-04 16:22

 yep, I havn't heard a thing so likely a while off yet. Havn't had mine all that long, so will hold on to it for a while longer.

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 That's an awesome deal.

Fri, 2017-08-04 20:44

 That's an awesome deal. Might have to look into a new one myself.

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