Leader for Jigging

 Reading as much as I can on jigging for Demersals before I get out there and give it a go for myself.

I'll be fishing 60 - 120g jigs in about 30 - 40m of water on 40lb braid.

Just wondering what would be a suitable leader to use. Mono or Flurocarbon? Brands? what weight rating and prefered knots ect to attach to my mainline. Any hints or tips that you think might be of use to me. This is one aspect of jigging I haven't found a lot of info on so I'm not really sure of how important it is.

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Step 1

Thu, 2011-09-08 09:32

search function, been covered a few times from memory.

Easy rule of thumb is double you mainline strength. Though 40lb is a pretty heavy mainline for demersals (where are you?)

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Like Matt said 40lb is a

Thu, 2011-09-08 09:39

Like Matt said 40lb is a little on the heavy side, when I was asking around the guys told me also the lighter you go the less drag it will have in the water meaning it will get to the bottom quicker. On one spool I use 15lb and the other 20lb and use one and a bit rod lengths of 40lb fluro. 60lb if I find there some sambos around.

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Matt is pretty much

Thu, 2011-09-08 09:45

Matt is pretty much right.

Mind you, a lot of mono overtests, so sometimes I use as low as same rating as mainline.

Fisherman, Gallis, Jinkai, even black agic all have ok poducts.

But over heavy fluoro, I haven't found a fish that really needs it yet.

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I reckon the Jigging Master

Thu, 2011-09-08 10:05

I reckon the Jigging Master leader is pretty good. Knots very well (even up to 200lb, not that I'm suggesting you need that for demersals!) is also fairly low diametre relative to breaking strain.

Is not overly pricey either, finding it is sometimes the hardest bit. Nomad generally stock it though if you cant find it local, but their flat $10-15 postage charge might make it uneconomic if that's all your buying.

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Depending where/what i'm

Thu, 2011-09-08 10:05

Depending where/what i'm fishing, i'll use 40lb fluro or jinkai for PE2. Anything over 40lb and its all nylon mono though. Never gone heavier than 60lb for light jigging though.

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Have stopped using 40lb

Thu, 2011-09-08 10:28

Have stopped using 40lb leaders after I have had a couple of big dhuies rasp through them. I use 60lb now for both PE2 and PE3. I don't recon there is much difference in the drag created by 60lb and 40lb over a 1.5m leader. Better to be on the safe side and not loose a good fish.

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 Wow, Thanks for the quick

Thu, 2011-09-08 10:53

 Wow, Thanks for the quick replies

 

I was wondering about the choice of main line and thought it might be a good idea to get a second spool and load it with something lighter. Think I'll go ahead and do that now and keep the 40lb for other duties. With my very limited understanding of jigging I guess the lighter the better so as not to effect the action of the jig. I've been told Fluro has a tendency to sink over mono aswell as being harder to see so it may be better suited than mono for jigging? 

I moved south earlier this year and mostly fish the capes. Naturaliste reef through to cape Leeuwin.

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It doesn't really matter if

Thu, 2011-09-08 11:27

It doesn't really matter if it floats or sinks when you have about 1.5m of it and its tied to a jig ;)

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While fluro might sink over

Thu, 2011-09-08 11:28

While fluro might sink over mono, it's like having a pair of sunnies in your car slowing it down. Your flurocarbon is attached to 100g of lead remember ;) Really only might ever matter for things like flyfishing with floating flies, or perhaps poppers or unweighted baits or the like.

Fluro is 'more invisible' underwater and more abrasion resistant. It also tends to stretch less. Anything over 40lb is too wiry in my opinion (and would only use 40lb with 80g+ jigs). 100lb mono and above you might start effecting the action, but it also has to do with visibility. Jinkai do softer and harder versions depending what you want/like. Havent had any problems with the action on 60lb anyways. Sink rate or water resistance of 2m wont matter massively anyways, but mainline can (considering it can be over 40m).

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I use 40lb fluro in those

Thu, 2011-09-08 13:20

I use 40lb fluro in those weights and depths . never had a prob with it yet

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I've always been a fan of

Thu, 2011-09-08 13:40

I've always been a fan of heavier leader

Good quality 80lb mono (similar diametre to cheap 60lb)

You never know when a shark is going to come and snaffle your jig!

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jigging for Demersals -

Thu, 2011-09-08 14:00

20-30lb braid suitable for demersal jigging.

40-50lb Flurocarbon like FC Rock is good especially for teeth wear etc.

Braid to leader connection via a double uni knot.

 

Any hints or tips?

 

~ Have a good selection of jigs and different weights.

~ Mix up the way you work the jig ie fast/slow etc

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Double Uni?

Thu, 2011-09-08 20:27

didn't realise anyone still tied that crap knot, GT all the way. Yet to see a breakage.

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Uni!

Thu, 2011-09-08 22:59

I use a double uni for light braids (quick & easy) and have never had an issue..............obviously with extreme deepwater jigging or GT casting I do a FG knot!

 

Another jigging tip I can add to what Blake said is to cast behind your boat if the drift is fast so you spend more time with vertical jigging as it departs a better action on the jig = more bites!

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Just dont do what

Fri, 2011-09-09 00:07

Just dont do what some people on sambo jigging charters do and let the jig flutter the whole way down (depends on the jig type). They were wondering why their jigs were going 45 degrees from the boat when others were straight down. If you stop the line after the jig hits the water, then it'll often then go straight down once you let go of the line again.

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yep!

Fri, 2011-09-09 00:52

You should always let the SP or jig sink via freespool on casting behind the boat......centre weight or rear weight jig doesnt matter get it down to the fish then let it do its thing!

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 Third trip on the jig and I

Sun, 2012-01-22 12:22

 Third trip on the jig and I finally landed a legal Dhu. Didn't weigh it but it measured 65cm. Evergreen Caprice did the job.

We haven't had too much luck of late. 3 trips and ony one other legal sized Dhu has been landed but I've been pleasantly surprised by the sucess I've had with jigs so far. Over the 3 trips I've landed 9 Dhus, 3 Nanagai, 2 Breaksea cod and an assorment of other nonappealing species. All up I'd have to say the jigs have marginally outfished bait so far albeit on undersized fish. If only the skipper can get us away from these nurseries as I wouldn't mind hooking into something a little more substantial.

Of the fish I've landed on jigs so far I haven't been too excited by the way their being hooked on the assists, I've even dropped a few reasonable fish shortly after hookup. I generally use twin assist 1/0 or 2/0 Shout Kudako jigging hooks and on almost every occasion I'm hooking up outside the mouth and on the face/head of the fish. I don't know if it's the hook not being suited to the task, retrieving a little too quick or tying my assists too long. Any suggestions?

(I can't figure out how to add a pic to this post so it was edited into my original post.)

 

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