Just out of interest some of the other states licenses costs

N.S.W all recreational fishing
3 Days $6.00
1 Month $12.00
1 Year $30.00
3 Years $75.00

Victoria all recreational fishing
2 Day $6.00
28 Day $12.00
1 Year $24.50
3 Year $66.00

Tasmania

For sea fishing with rod and line no license required.

For any of the below:
-abalone
-rock lobster dive (fisher must be over 10 years old)
-rock lobster pot (fisher must be over 10 years old)
-rock lobster ring (fisher must be over 10 years old)
-graball net, mullet net, beach seine net
-scallop

1 Year $44.80 for initial license then an additional
$6.40 for each other type

Freshwater fishing

1 Day $15.00
1 Year $52.00

Oueensland
Only for 33 freshwater impoundments and dams
1 Week $7.00
1 Year $35.00

A.C.T
No recreational fishing licenses

S.A
No recreational fishing licenses (there are plans to introduce one)

N.T
No recreational fishing license.

COMPARED TO WHAT W.A WILL BE.

For only fishing from boats (Don't know why they dont apply it to everyone like every other state with recreational fishing licenses)

1 Year $30.00

For other special fishing activites

1 Year

Crayfish $45.00
Abalone $45.00
Marron $45.00
Netting $45.00
Freshwater $45.00

For anyone fishing for demersal species in the West Coast Region(Black Point to Kalbarri).

1 Day $30.00
2 Weeks $60.00
1 Year $150.00

Hmmmm seems to me a bit of a difference from other states that have been doing pretty well managing their fisheries over the past decade, including for QLD, NSW, VIC and TAS stocking their dams and impoundments.

Seriously have been thinking of moving back to Darwin for along time now. And i know that as with progress eveything WILL eventually change everywhere, i think the far north will be the last places affected (or enforced!) by any changes. Anyone else keen for the N.T? :)

Lets get as many names on the petition as possible!

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Fishing_Licence?e

Email the Minister!

Minister.Moore@dpc.wa.gov.au

Email Barnett

wa-government@dpc.wa.gov.au

There's not much point complaining lets do something!

So much for fish for the future, how many kids won't be fishing now because there parents can't afford it. This will change the lives of many families especially those with limited funds. Basically if your poor and you struggle to keep a boat you might aswell give it away and let your family sit around the house and watch TV.

My dp is what i think of noorman moore

I would sign ur petition jabba, but dont u have to make a donation 2 the site?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm what can one say ,we knew it was coming. We will all pay and go fishing and catch our fish like before.Its a bit like fuel prices we don't like them but we pay or we don't work and play .I can't see how the money will stop the decline in fish stocks,hopefully we may see so more of the fisheries on weekends checking boats and catches,as for the bans ,looks like we will be going diving in the summer .I still think a bag limit of four dhuies per boat is the way to save the stocks, or one per person up to four people on board, and 10kg instead of 20kg per angler from the northern trips.It is a sign of things to come so sell your boats ,or bight the bullet and pay to fish.

nice work Davy_G... No, the petition is free. We have 15 so far, it's only been up for a couple of hours. We need more ...sign!

Is it possible to create a FW based petition???

Yours is a great idea Jabba, but the whole point is that we are pi$$ed about having to throw more money away, so having to pay again for the yanky based petition isnt gonna help.

Norman Moore admits he is trying to price people out of fishing.

On an interview on 6PR today Norman Moor openly admitted he was using the fees to stop people fishing! so if your well off your fine but if your not this government doesn't want you and your family to fishing!

Serioulsy, he openly said that he is using the fee structure to discourage people from fishing to achieve his 50% reduction of fish catch.

how is it free though?? I've been through it and even when they ask for $10 and I change t to $2 they still put you through to paypal...

any shortcuts??

r u sure it doesnt cost a donation?

coz i tried to register and when i put what i had 2 say and clicked sign it came up with "how muc wold u like to donate?" then it had a list ond u had 2 click 1 then it said next.

I had no dramas signing that petition online Jabba, dont know where scottbec is going???

That wako garret and his idiot acedemic mate whats her name ? who cares anyway would have closed heaps of our fishing areas down if their Labour mates were still in government over here . Thank fark they are gone.

i registered but how do i see who has signed

scottbec don't worry, once you have voted it puts you through to the donation page but your vote has already been counted. You have voted twice by the looks of it. Just exit out once you get to the donation page.

I'll donate some dough to them if it all goes well. It seems like a pretty good service. We have 20 signatures now

yeah the cancel option on the paypal page doesnt tell you if you are cancelling the donation or the vote.

scotbec davy_g  once you click on the link you'll see a signature tab up the top.

next to petition text and email friends. you can click there and it will show you the signatures so far and the comments people have left.

don't worry about the donations page once you get there your vote is cast and you can just close the window and ignore the donation bit.

a week from now the grumbling will have subsided and we'll all pony up the cash. I know for one that I dont care and I'll pay if thats what I have to do. Your petition is a nice idea Jabba, but I dont think it will amount to sweet FA no matter how many signatures you get. You vote them out and you get another party with a different game plan to achieve the same objective. 

Liberal, Labour, Nationals or god forbid the Greeens will all enforce some kind of user pays system with tighter restrictions - its the nature of the beast given that people have had a free run for so long and fishing stocks are being depleted quicker than they are regenerating. The party was gonna come to end sometime soon, it just happens to be now I guess.

the Barnett gov are liars and ever body who voted and believed the bullsh*t have themselves to blame. I ask you who is the arrogant and out of touch pollie now! no football stadium ! that right we need a hospital or was that a water front development. the last gov was told this was a waste of the public's money your out off touch the lib sold us out to get voted in ! now we all we pay for the royal for Regen's and the big question is what or where has that money gone and the national party people fish as well so they give them the money then take it back this stupid idea need to be stopped and a cross the board licence used that does not cost to much or discriminate against the not so weathy amture fishamen who boat fish with there kids or friends it a new tax tax tax

wtf.....it's fishing! whatever happened to being able to chill out and wet a line for your own enjoyment? and enjoy your catch? Without having to fork out money! so steep! Especially for poor uni students like me

Plenty of reaction to the new fees, from many different angles - financial, political etc. But will simply imposing hefty fees on the average bloke that gets out occasionally to enjoy that which is almost considered a constitutional rite in Australia actually preserve fish stocks for the future? Simple me not think so. The first and most significant step in preserving fish stocks will be improving the controls on commercial fishing, as some of the good folk of fishwrecked have touched upon. Whilst you and I talk up the big dhuie we caught a few years ago, drop into a pub in Ledge, Cervantes, Jurien etc etc and see how many deckie stories you hear about pulling half a tonne of dhuie off a single spot - just for fun coz the crays weren't in season!

 Agree with all the principles of fishing for the future and practise these like so many of the recreational fisherman that enjoy their time on the water. These aren't the people that need to be monitored, regulated, penalised etc yet the new fee structure appears to do just that. Simply saying that the money will be appropriately spent does not equate to $ put back into the recreational fishing industry. Where is the plan from the govt. as to exactly how the funds will be used?

 I honestly don't believe it's the right way to go. More than happy to contribute to and assist with anything that helps preserve the incredible recreational fishing that WA has, but all this seems like poorly thought out policy to raise money that will no doubt be inappropriately spent.

What a load of bullshit.How do you like the age limit of 16 for a child? I have two boys that enjoy a fish from time to time. My 17y/o is now unemployed due to the downturn in his industry. He went down to apply for unemployment benefits’ only to be told he is ineligible. This is due to him being under 21 the new ruling is that all children are under parents’ umbrella until 21. But here they are saying 16 is the cut off for a child. I know I am talking about two difrent subjects but they chage the ruleing to suit. They have messed up so much, how much longer before we vote again?????

dont mind paying fees on the provision the money is appropraitely aportioned. ever since moving here everyone has always said WA stands for "wait awhile"....... but this is not diplomatic!! shock tatics is a catalyst for guerilla warfare!!

the last few fisheries minister all seem to be just stabbing in the dark as there is no hard scienticific proof apart from the universal "depletion is occuring" in there arguement. but now you have a process to expediate the much needed funding blackhole, so employ personal cause it will help in this downturn, and believe me people want the jobs.

but stating "we are pricing people out of fishing" is just well..... an insult to our intelligence. most if asked, would like to help the fish stocks situation because at the end of the day its in our best interests to conserve fish as anglers.

the fee should apply statewide and be fair and justifiable (which I am really struggling to pertain such an idea). we ALL fish so we ALL should pay fairly. Not just those in the bioregion area.

not a fan of user pays. we already pay fees/taxes which to date have not come back into "the system". look at national park etc, the user pays does not work and I have worked in many here and over seas......

sure I'll pay but I'll be tearing their data apart when the jellyfish pollies finally present it.......got to get service for the price we pay and hold the decsion makers accountable.

time to read Ed Abbeys "The Monkey Wrench Gang" people!!

The system there trying to introduce wont work, as a earler member mentioned, melbourns the way to go $20 for  land or sea everyones happy

Seems to be alot of apathy here, of course it's easy to just say "at the end of the day I'll pay" but thats what gets us into this shit to start with.

This is just a tax, an excuse to collect. Those with the apathetic attitude (I'll just pay) shouldn't complain the next time this happens and the time after that... I hope you all stay employed and don't have to many kids and can always afford this tax.

This isn't going to help the fundamental issue, people will still fish either illegally or just pay the government, how does that help stocks????

Sure, pay a license but across the board for all types of fishing, collect the money for research and enforcement.

There are other ways to help the fish stock without trying to tax the poor or the families out of thier lifestyle.

Personally I believe rotating exlusion zones or something similar would be a better way to go, surely there are better ways to tackle the issue than just a huge tax, c'mon people grow some balls and DON'T lie down and take it up the clacker anymore!

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Fishing_Licence?e

The only way to prevent the decline of fish stocks is bag Limits, charging fees for licences is not going to help the fish stocks in any shape or form.

Have another enquiry on fish stocks,Lot of good that does.

How do you restock fish that no one can breed away from its natural enviornment.

Who is the new manager they will appoint to look after the licence fees, it will probably only be $100,000.00 a year job, so not many takers for that.

DONT BUY FISHING LICENCES, LET THE GOV FALL ON ITS BUM.

ZORBA.

Fishing licences I agree with but the way this one is proposed is ridiculous. Make it an affordable cost and a one off licence for all types of fishing be it land based, boating, freshwater, crustaceans etc.

Please sign onto this partition

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Fishing_Licence?e

Lets say for instance you have six people in you family,all like fishing ,how often do you all fish and bring in your bag limits,not often you could licence two people which gives you plenty of fish , even if six were on board ,four came for the ride and took some photos,problem solved for the big family.
Madmick said about the pro fishers are responsible for the stokes being the way they are ,jesus amatures in one weekend would kill more dhuies than the pros but that is ok.no tighter bag limits are a way of slowing thing down and a closed season ,and even then i say the wrighting is on the wall for some species of fish ,and the beloved Dhuie is at the top of the list...
I do agree the licence fee is a little steep i think $50 would be a good all round price for fishing, and make it right across the board..

When you look at the 20% that get 80% of the catch it certainly favours them (though still at a cost) but really stitches up the 80% who struggle to go fishing as often or as successfully. I took my boat out a grand total of 5 times last year. (plenty more this year but still maybe only once a fortnight if I'm lucky) Intention and end result are two very different things when it comes to getting the boat out.

Very interesting angle Andy - and I agree.

Like many, I don't have a problem with a (salt) water recreational fishing licence, but as Recfishwest's Frank Procop said, make it a lower cost ubiquitous licence for ALL fishers and across all bioregions - not just the WCB. Otherwise we are penalising the 80% as Andy mentioned and ignoring the other bioregions.

As I said elsewhere:

Hmmm, I'll be interested to see how the supporting legislation will be written and gazetted. How will the actually define activity of a person 'fishing for demersal' (scale) fish?

Anyone that is not trolling? - I've known people to catch snapper and even duifish on a trolled lure.

Anyone using a sinker? (You don't need to use a paternoster rig/snapper sinker to target bottom dwellers).

Does having snapper sinkers on board define you as 'fishing for demersals'?

Will the checks be at the ramps? If that's the case that's 'CATCHING demersals' not fishing for them.

Where's the Fisheries budget sudden influx of officers, vehicles and boats coming from? Only a minority scale enforcement/check occurs at the moment.

I'm all for sustainment of fish stocks, but I'm currently hard pressed to see how this can and will be effectively enforced and I can see a lot of people not paying the $s.

EDIT (sp only) I can see a lot of people travelling out of the WCB into other bioregions to lower the cost - especially those around Kalbarri and Augusta (the northern and southern extremities of the the WCB).

Like I said - glad I'm in the South Coast Bioregion.

...and WILL the money ACTUALLY be put into a (MUCH) more effective DOF and better research, or shanghied by some opportunistic emoticon? I won't hold my breath!

Andy,

Re your post:

I'll be checking licenses with deckies if this comes in. No license = no fishing. Lack of deckies with licenses will be an impact on fishing time too if you need an extra hand to put the boat in and out.

From the DOF 'New Recreational Fishing Arrangements' - Fequently asked questions ( http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/pub/RecFishArrange/FAQ-July%202009.pdf ):

Do all passengers on board a boat on a fishing trip require a Recreational Boat Fishing Licence? No. Only those who are actively engaged in fishing need a licence.

Just take deckies that 'don't fish'

affect me if i was to hire a boat for a weekend would i have to pay the boat license or just the personal license?

Reading the DOF FAQs (per the link in my previous post), I would take a punt and say you would:

What licence do I require to fish for demersal fish scalefish FROM A BOAT in the West Coast Bioregion. You require both a Recreational Boat Fishing Licence and a West Coast Demersal Scalefish Licence if fishing from a boat.

It would appear that it's the activity/not ownership to consider - same as if you are a fishing deckie on someone else's boat or a charter boat. 

Edit.....

I'm sure there will be (and should be) plenty of people writing in Saltatrix in addition to entitirely appropriate dicussion on a very hot topic - no need for baseless insults.

However, I do tend to agree that LOTS and LOTS of letters will (should) carry more weight (hopefully!) than an online petition - without taking anything away from my comendation for those that organised and participated in it. 

..and yes, I too agree (as I inferred earlier) that such funds need to be better targetted.

morning. The morning talkback host is Geoff Hutchinson the contact details are:
Tel: 1300 222 720, SMS on 199 22 720 or email Geoff at

Haha just got emailed this....

Good input #1 - will be interesting.

For those wanting to write to the Minister here is the contact details  --->

EDIT UPDATE - More precise contact details:

Hon. Norman Frederick Moore MLC BA Dip Ed

Minister For Mines and Petroleum; Fisheries; Electoral Affairs

Electorate Office:

Level 1

8 Parliament Place 

West Perth WA 6005

Ph: (08) 9226 3550

Fax: (08) 9226 2976

Email:

Email2:

Ministerial Office:

4th Floor, London House

216 St Georges Terrace

PERTH WA 600

Ph: (08) 9422 3000

Fax: (08) 9422  3001

Email:

What if you only go out to fish for these species... take a couple of snap shots and put em back??? Will i get prosecuted if caught in the act?? or do i still have to pay for the license to fish for them???

Copy of my email to 15 ministers so far. I am going through the list and sending it to each of them. Hopefully they will get the message.

To the ministers of the liberal party

I FISH, I VOTE!

Might be time to bring that back into consideration.

Good to see the free country we all love is getting better at democracy where we all get a say in the decisions at that will affect us. have to agree with you there jabba jabba.

What the $^&* does this Norman Moore ^&(*& like to do for a fun lets put foward a proposal to legislate that to the point of it being completely inpractical.

the government have got good timeing to amidst a recesion they bring in a more economically detromantal process to hard working people of this great place.

Hate to be the people trying to enforce this at such short notice. the responce will not be of the politest nature as you would believe your self to be entitalled to.(get old numb nuts to do it himself he can face the back lash).

hope numb nuts relises what happen to the last political dictator we had (carpenter on day light saving) BYE BYE!!!!

the process makes sence but the prices are over the top and if this sticks then we need to have every dollar that is payed justified to the extent that any unjustified spending, results in ones immediate dismisal and removal from the system and all moneies recooperated and put back into where it was intended.

maybe they should spend it on keeping aussies in jobs,or keeping our coastline safe from boat people,coz we know not that much revenue ever gets spent on fishing

Perhaps if the minister evened out the cost and charged a reasonable license fee for 'EVERYONE' in the state then the fee would be a more realistic price ie $50-$100 per year.

I cannot comprehend that he wants to charge one sector of the fishing community to be able to fish, but not others.

Will the recreational fishing money be used for any research that will be valuable for areas outside of the West Coast zone? If so 'Moore' should open his eyes.

If he doesn't i might move up to EXXY- still free to fish up there

PS- Retired politicians get free airfares so they can fly to parts of the country where you don't have to pay to fish- HHHMMMMM!

So going for snapper at northmole will come under these licences?

What a load of bullshit.

Sure we need to look at protecting fish stocks, but to make it a recreation (to target dermesals) only for those with a higher disposable income is crap.

I generally only take 1 or 2 people out with me when going fishing.

Sometimes the decision to go can be a last minute one or the night before.

What if the decky (doesn't have to be an adult - maybe my son's mate) doesn't have a license, how do they purchase one prior to the trip ? Sorry champ you're not coming with us because you aint got a license !

via a website and pay with credit card, vending machines installed at ALL boat ramps (hardly likely)

I know if it comes in, sure you'll have no choice to pay the $$'s.

I'll spend my $180 and cough up $90 for my son... but anyone else who comes out for a fish will be classed as a "passenger only" on return to the ramp !

It's gonna be hard for the inspectors to proove otherwise !

Guys,

From what I am hearing there is still the opportunity to shift the changes from what was announced to low cost broad based licences, if we make enough noise.

I believe there was a push for that outcome within the Lib Party, but it wasn't seen as politically acceptable.

So email pollies, ring talkback and write to newspapers and we might still be able to salvage proper fisheries management from the wreckage.

It's not too late, hopefully.  

Get busy... 

Did that Scotty, (heard your comments too )...wanted to say a lot more - but didn't want to be greedy with air time. My correspondence is being drafted - and I agree - the more noise the better. With a mid october launch, we all have plenty of opportunity to get off our butts. 

Yeah, had a couple more points Colin, but they kept it pretty short.

I honestly believe a low cost broad based licence, as in other states, is the best way forward.

And I think it might be achievable if we act quickly.

My mates on the south coast (South Coast Bioregion) will kill me for saying this, but I'd be more than prepared to pay for a '(valuable scale fish species) Demersal Fee' if it meant broader research and properly funded resources and lower costs for WCB counterparts.

Same goes for boat fishing licences - if you MUST have a boat licence (as opposed to a better broader licence) - at least charge all boat owners.

Todays land based fisho could be tomorrows boat based fisho and they'd benefit from anything done today. Same principle applies to bioregion driven costs - people move around and the research and efforts needs to be across all habitats that identified demersal scale fish inhabit - not just the WCB. 

I can only assume that you purchase the licence from a Post Office, what happens if if you decide to go out on a Sunday(assuming you haven't got a yearly) and we all know the chaces of findind a PO open on Sundays.

The whole system is a JOKE

The petition is going well, there are 93 sigantures so far and most people are leaving comments which is great.

All the comments will be included when petition is given to the minister.

You might think it's a waste of time but at least it's something and all adds to the "noise" we can make.

Some people seem concerned the the petition is going to cost them. Don't worry it's completely free. After you cast your vote and leave your comment it directs you to a donation page but you don't have to do anything, just close the window, your vote will still be cast.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Fishing_Licence?e

 Seeing as the australian government have made it impossible for me to take you out on the water and teach you to help and co oporate with your sibblings...... you just keep playing video games. When they put a widows pension up to keep up with the other stuff that keeps going up ... well maybe then i can show you the freedom of the water and the peace that goes with it. Then i can teach you that girls can do any thing and how to respect yourselves and god's ocean and creatures. How to safely return things to the ocean to swim another day. Yeah i'm sorry, you just stay in front of the tv!!!   

i'm all for a visit to the house on the hill and i have signed the above petition. I would dearly love the oportunity to teach my kids about preservation so they don't screw it up when its their turn. How else are they going to learn????  

If the aim is to reduce the amount of fish taken - why not make a bag limit of 1 cat one per person per day. Putting an expensive license in place doesn't actually stop anyone from taking the same amount of fish as last year - just makes it more expensive. Kinda stupid reasoning really.

I am happy to pay a single licence, and I reckon that the existing bag limits are generous. However I get the feeling that I am being screwed because I fish from a boat and live in Perth.
Be a tough job getting a deckie in a couple of months
Copy of letter just sent to Moore

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Dear Mr Moore,

Let me start this letter on a positive note by saying that I welcome the introduction of a Recreational Fishing Licence, particularly when I read that your Government’s policy is that current funding levels for recreational fishing will remain and any income from the new licence will be quarantined for use to the betterment of recreational fishing in WA.

On the other hand I am VERY disappointed in the way that the new fees have been calculated.

I am a family man with two young children, on a modest income, that has worked and saved hard to buy myself a boat capable of travelling the distances required to target our local demersal species. I object to:

1.      The fact that I, along with my wife and children, will have to pay a fee to fish, or crab, from our boat. $90 per year in total

2.      The fact that we will need to pay an extra fee to target demersal fish of up to $150 each per year. Let us be honest here no boat owner will choose pay by the day given the flukiness of the west coast wind patterns

3.      The fact that a wide circle of friends that fish with me on an occasional basis will be up for $50.00 for the first trip out and then $20 for each subsequent trip (if fishing for demersals)

4.      Land based fishermen face no financial burden to carry out their style of fishing

As stated, I welcome the idea of a fishing licence and I also agree that lower bag limits are a legitimate tool in protecting our fish stocks. However I strongly disagree with the manner in which these new conditions have been implemented.

I have been a lifelong Liberal voter and, as one who believes in the ethos that I thought that your Government stood for, remain deeply disturbed by your actions. I fear that your government will feel a strong voter backlash on this subject that is close to many West Australian’s hearts.

Now that the new rules appear to be set in stone until the 12 month review, I expect to see some result for the financial burden that I, and others, will carry. I ask

1.      What is your baseline evidence on the existing biomass of the listed demersal fishes within the West Coast Region?

2.      Have you determined the actual take of demersal fish in the recreation sector within the West Coast Region? If so how does this compare to the professional take?

3.      On what basis do you determine the success of the program put in place by yourself? Will the results be published?

4.      How will the money raised from the licences be spent in a fashion that provides tangible benefit to recreational fishermen that will contribute the lion’s share to the fund (i.e. Boating fishermen)

I look forward to receiving a response to my letter

Yours Sincerely

Just added a "page 2" link at the top of the first page, which when you click it , it will take you to page 2 naturally.

Just be aware that the second page will also have the link at the header post so don't keep clicking it thinking you haven't moved. Just scroll down and you will find the latest posts.

If they want kids to sit at home and stare at the television then ... Way to go!!! As a widow i bet my pension wont go up with all these increases!! I guess they got the last laugh after all as i bought my boat and did it up with my last bonus from mr Rudd. Has any one else ever noticed that Evinrude and Kevin Rudd have only two letters difference? Take the K from Kevin and change the last 'D' to an E. Hmm i thought it was my sign to buy my beloved boat... wrong again.

And yes i signed the petition and am all for parking my boat at the house on the hill. Not quite sure how  my kids will learn to look after our ocean and its inhabitats but i guess thats my problem and not mr Rudd's.

We've just cracked 100 signatures

If anyones knows any other ways to get this link to more people please let me know.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Fishing_Licence?e

 and he eats for a day, teach a man  to fish and he better have a bloody truck load of money !!!!

Norm in the 1980's   "Life be in it "

Norm in 2009  "Stay home you miserable pieces of crap,unless you are  wealthy,,fishing is now a privelege not a right "  "And yes a kayak is actually a boat, didn't you know that ? Are you public completely void of any brains ? We laugh about you lot up here on the hill,,you will moan and whine but you will pay up,,hahahaha "

What about equity.

 I don't want to offend the shore fishermen. But why does it cost a guy with a 12ft dingy who fishes 100 meters off the shore $30 to catch a feed of whitting and herring, while the guys on the beach catching the same fish pay nothing. Not equitable and not right.

 Where is the science that states that paying a $150 demersal license will save the V5?

What is with the no take in Nov and Dec, I believed that Dhufish spawned in Jan if you are going to use science then apply it correctly. Protect fish in their spawning seasons.  

I am not a racist, but i spose all of the Indigenous / Torres straight islanders are exempt from the fishing regulations, as they are with all the other marine regulations.... Would be interseted to know... If so, gunna trace the family tree with a fine toothed comb... and hope great, great, great grand daddy or mummy boofed one... I could be 1/64 cast????

Based on this excerpt from the official PDF publication release:

"Do I get a plastic licensing card if I take out
a one-day or fortnight West Coast Demersal
Scalefish Licence? No. Plastic cards will only
be issued for annual licences. --For one-day and
fortnight licences, the receipt issued online
through the website-- or by the Australia Post
outlet or a Department of Fisheries office will be
effective as proof of licence. "

Ive highlighted a particular part of the phrase:

"Through the website "

Now not that it gets around paying BUT...

With the advent of today's technology it is highly POSSIBLE that internet connections can be drawn from PDA phones and other devices at MANY places whilst on the water. (even close to the ramps at worst)

A sneaky solution for those planning one day licences:

If possible: Don't bother until you actually CATCH something... Pay online with a credit card via the website whilst at sea ...

That way you can minimise the impact of  the demersal $30 cash grab, particularly if  you have a bad day out and miss the lot. 

As you are well entitled to fish for other species, the way I see it, you would be in compliance with the ruling, provided you pay up when you catch something demersal. 

Also plenty of scope to also throw an extra demersal fish on another mates bag limit if he gets a dermesal -- as the rest of the fishermen on the boat could be fishing for non-demersal species.

And lastly, not that I agree with it necessarily, but I can see some of the die hards possibly using this to avoid paying until actually sighting a fisheries inspector.

Any which ways, in general, I have no problem paying something if I catch something... but the proposed value of $30 and having to pay it on a whim seems a bit rich.  IF they make a decent blanket boat licence and be done with it... and avoid the subversiveness that is otherwise goign to ensue.

May sound a bit nerdish for a solution... But hey ... I work in I.T

Happy Hunting :D

I think some of the fees will have to be directed to personal security for minister moore,as going on the post regarding this new impost on fishing he will need it,i would not like to be in his shoes if down near the water jersey

the fisheries minister said the main objective was to stop people going fishing. Isnt that detrimental to his own department. I would pay even though it is expensive compared to other states like NSW ($30 a year unbrella license)What I want to know is what am I getting for my money. Sure they will research but none of us are going to see this research, therefore no good for me. Some suggestions from me would be:

#aquaculture and study on breeding demersal fish for restocking, 

#education on releasing fish properly especially for incidental captures in the closed season

#education in general on acceptable fishing practices

#more fisheries officers

#habitat regeneration(artifical reefs, ect)

#study on breeding cycles of these fish they are trying to protect so they can shut areas down for a period to let them do there thing

Unless some of these issues are going to be addressed I cannot see the point of bringing in a license. Then it would be called revenue raising. As the old saying goes, 10% of the fisherman catch 90% of the fish. These 10% would have no qualms in paying the fees, so in my eyes how is this going to be a benefit to fish stocks.

OUT!!

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i defiently know i'm won't be heading out on my mates boat any more.

too much money, not enough chance of getting decent fish.

I hope Mr Moore is very proud of himself  stopping the youth of today going fishing.

I reckon it would be good for all Recreational fishos (boat and land based) to have to go through some assesmet - like the Rec Skippers Ticket. It would solve issues like people taking more than the bag limits, taking under sized fish, inproper releasing of fish, etc.

People arent actually going to learn anything out of this current proposal.

If you have a Rec Fishers Ticket then you should know the rules, just like RST.

I don't need the RST for my kayak because its not a boat.

Now i need a boat fishing licence because the kayak is now a boat,lol

Having read most of the posts on here I can only say that most of you have missed the big picture. Fish for the future. I want my kids and grandkids to be able to catch fish in 50 years time. Have confidence that the government will do the right thing with the revenue raised. If your aren't prepared to pay the price it costs to live in a 1st world country; move somewhere else. Ever tried to catch a decent fish off the coast of asia. Be honest with yourself, if you can afford a boat you can afford $200 to keep the fishery sustainable. Wake up and stop your pointless complaining. JMO.