Night Fish Preparation
Submitted by Andy Mac on Tue, 2006-10-10 18:22
OK guys only a week or so to go until we get out there in the pitch black.
So we all have a chance at a fish, how about posting up a couple of tips for all us skippers that are relatively new to the night fishing game.
Everything from lights onboard through to glow baits and strobes, any special techniques that work better at night. I'm all ears!
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Adam Gallash
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Headlight
At all costs get yourself one of those strap on headlight thingys. Best night fishing accessory I've ever bought!!!
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Yep that's on my list
Do you guys do anything special with your electronics (running a duel battery system,) do you switch to both while you are out there with the additional power drain of the deck lights? Or is that insignificant?
How about the glow baits, I always thought you had to get them some sun first before they would glow, or do you just pass them under the deck lights to get them cranked up?
Are they better dim, or full blaze?
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bouttime
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never used them
i have used glow lights while night fishing before and never realy seen any advantage. Have heard good and bad things about them but don,t bother anymore.
i still use a glow bead that i put under a light just before it goes in the water. Again sometimes they work sometimes they dont.
As long as your battery is fully charged before you go our your nav and anchor lights shouldn't drain the battery. If your not sure run your motor for a few minutes every hour and you should be right.
I find it easier to fish with no lights on unless you need to rig up or bait up. The glow from my sounder and gps is enough to see whats doing. As adam said a headlamp is a good idea and also a spotlight for when your travelling in the dark. To much light disrupts your night vision. Apart from that a hot cup of coffee or a cold beer and your set.
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bring them in close
a good burly dont need no flashing things.
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I find the grifton
I find the grifton strobes way too bright for night fishin too. Had an experience fishin in about 30 odd m's and those things were lighten up the area too much for my liking. Another time(at band camp....teehhee) while chasin mulla's during a succesful run of fish over a certain time period not so long ago, onr of those strobes "accidently" got dropped overboard, result: no mulla's that night, despite tagging a few the previous night, and then at least one more the next night. Nothing scientific there i know, only my experience, but for mine, the strobes are too bright at night, JMO.
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I remember
that phosferous(sp?) from when i used to get put on the deep end of the prawn net as a young bloke, used to freak me out, could never work out what it was....
Back to topic now, sorry for the quick hi-jack
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Swordfish like glow sticks
Swordfish like glow sticks and squid for bait.....good luck trying to hook one let alone land one hehehe ;)
Andy, I have nav light's on, deck lights on, a head lamp is absolutely paramount, glow squid ie B2 or Exoset work well, the H2O activated light are way to bright for night....kick butt during the day but!
I run on one battery bank on the way out, switch over to the other whilst drifting around at night, then come back in on that bank, if a bit low which it shouldn't do then alternate back to the one you went out on........ps dont run or use a spotty too long as that ZAPS the battery power big time!
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slightly off topic again....
.....but i've gotta ask....
Are they(wide-williams) are a common capture in local waters? I thought they were a more "up north" type of fish, and hence, am trying to establish the relevance of that link(cool link btw Shann)
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Trench
I seem to recall reading somewhere that they have been hooked out on the Rottnest Trench (1000m depth) by drifting at night using a live squid and cyalume light stick arrangement.
Need a big boat and a calm night/slow drift I imagine.
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Big fish/little boats
Big fish on little boats is what sorts the wheat from the chaff IMO.
However, I wont be going broadie fishing, a man's got to know his limitations.:)
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no probs
Have not heard of people fishing these waters for them but over east in the south coast and around Sydney they are starting to get a few broadbill. Its not as far out ( only 40km-60km ) but with good weather a 6mtr boat is fine. Have seen the local longline boat over there come in after a nights work with about 12 broadbill around 100kg onboard.
As for the broadbill fishing in NZ and more so the three kings i have been told and read articals that that area is a known breeding ground for them and thats why they are so common. Again still seasonal but can be found in large numbers.
Its like anything, until someone gives it a go and lands one who knows.
One day i might give it a go.
You never never know if you never have a go.......
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Ah ok
Thanx for the replies guys, the only time i can recall hearing about was from a night charter out of Exmouth a few years ago(Ross Newtons boat IIRC), so was just wondering s'all.
So wattaya reckon Ryan, nab some squidlies on the way out to the broadie grounds.....???
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Hi Jacked thread!
Hi Jacked thread with broadbill info that isn't relavent......(rolled eyes)
I can copy & paste heaps of broadbill info if ppl want but me thinks this is a waste here.....Mindarie night preperation thread ;)
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Have you ever trolled at night Ryan?
I was thinking about running a few lures out on dusk to see if the fish hit the surface as the light fades? What do you reckon the chances of something reasonable out in 40m or if we stay close, behind Staggies?
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mmmhhhhh
If it was summer time Andy I would be chasin macky's in close, for now's temp I would say perhaps trolling around for tuna would be the go behind the reef & contour lines and maybe a bit deeper, slow time of year but still worth while!
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Night time macks
Andy, fyi... I've caught Spanish Mackeral at night trolling lures on two seperate occassions in different locations.....Caught Northern Bluefin Tuna too.....always worth a go
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Prep
It was 20.7 degrees out from Ocean Reef last Thursday, was quite suprised at how warm the water was. Heard a few predictions that its going to be a bumper year for pelagics in the metro.
I agree with the battery comments, may as well just run off one bank if you have duels.
I have one of those strobes where you can adjust the brightness, spent the extra $15 and got the top of the line one, can't knock it. Can be really bright when you need it and dull when you don't, rate them as a top fishing accessories you can have.
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I was figuring maybe a few Bonito still about
Mackies long gone, but a YFT could be on the cards or even a bronzie, which definately hit the surface on dusk and I've seen heaps of them out there on the way in with fading light. Not sure they will take a lure though, but you never know.
Hmmm I'm looking forward to this (pray to the weather gods guys).
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Always a possibility!
I sent Deanno from FWA out to chase YFT and on sundown he got that 28kg near Mindarie.....was warmer watars then and heaps of bait fish, the warm Leewin current was right in that month!
If ya got a line in the water ya in with a chance!
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Latest purchases
Just came back from the tackle store with a brand new LED light headlamp (on special at $19.95), a glow in the dark abyss-300g knife jig from Williamson Lures (just in case) and a new battery for my overhead lamp and a 3,000,000 candle power rechargeable spot light from supercheap auto's.
Still have a gift voucher from fathers day that I haven't spent either so I am thinking of splashing out on a new reel tomorrow. Anyway, that's me done for preparation, just have to give the boat a run on Sunday and charge up both batteries and its all go...go...go.
8 more sleeps and its on (weather permitting).
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What reel ya lookin' at
What reel ya lookin' at Andy?
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