Okuma Salina II
Submitted by MattMiller on Tue, 2010-09-07 11:13
Hi guys, i know these reels have been out for a while now and others have asked this before. So i was just wondering what you think of them?
They come in varying sizes up to 16000 which says it has a drag capable of 30kg (which i thinks unlikely). So there obviously aimed at the jigging/ Popping market.
Considering you can get your hands on them for @$200 i'm interested in what there like.
lurcha
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i HAD one and had a few
i HAD one and had a few problems with it but they were covered by the warranty. tested it and didnt get 30kg of drag from it, from memory i think it was pulling around 13-16 but wasnt very smooth at that point. they look good, the knob isnt very comfortable for prolonged use and the chrome flaked off in a few spots. if you are looking in that price range id get a spheros.
Just1morecast
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thats if u drop the reel in
thats if u drop the reel in the ocean though hey Luke:p Ive got 2 to test out in the next coming weeks i can let you know, if weathers good il go for a jig
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lurcha
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hmmm dont think the water is
hmmm dont think the water is going to change the shape of the knob, flake the chrome or change the drag settings! plus the only reason it went in the water is beacause they come with an old school reel seat which doesnt fit in the new rods properly and popped out on its first go jigging (in saying that the photo shown here doesnt have the little tab on the seet like mine so maybe they changed that but it wasnt that long ago???) I also took the reel in and had it pulled apart and cleaned straight away and several trips later had the second problem.
Maybe mine was just bad but if you plan on jigging sambos good luck!
oh and sha hopefully the day doesnt come where i say " i told you so" haha
MattMiller
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So the problems are flaked
So the problems are flaked chrome, uncomfortable handle and a drag that means i could only fish pe5 off it? I can handle that from a reel at that price.
lurcha
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what do you plan to use the
what do you plan to use the reel for matt? you also forgot the old style seat that doesnt fit in new rods propperly.
Dicey
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luke one of the old kardy
luke one of the old kardy bmx boys, saw one of your pics the other day and recognised you, dont know if you even remember me Alex asian bloke mates with evan and franky.
lurcha
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haha classic, guess my face
haha classic, guess my face hasnt changed much! i remember you but cant picture your face, its been a good 10 plus years. you still see any of the boys? what was the other blokes name? was it Lyndon?
Dicey
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haha yeh man been a while
haha yeh man been a while ey, yeh its lyndon and Jon, then theres danny lol, aint seen them in ages but evan i saw not too long ago same as jon at a party, hows things with you?
lurcha
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yeah good mate, been married
yeah good mate, been married for a few years now and just working and fishing. so are you right into the fishing? i havent seen frank in years but see danny a bit, hes engaged now. might have to tee up a fishing session?
Dicey
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was into fishing for ages,
was into fishing for ages, but mainly landbased since i get sea sick lol weak sauce, good to see you cleaned up hahah no more running amok. fishing sometime would be cool, at the moment havent got much gear got rid of most of it, give me sometime to build the stock back up mate and i will get back to ya on that offer.
lurcha
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yeah mate moved out of kardy
yeah mate moved out of kardy and pulled my head in! im up for some land based fishin. i hit the beach every now and then also do a bit of freshwater but im up for most fishing. let me know when ya keen.
Dicey
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will get back to ya, when im
will get back to ya, when im all geared up again, take it easy bud.
schecky
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Overly blinged crap IMO
Overly blinged crap IMO
STEVE231
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Agree with Schecky, save
Agree with Schecky, save your money and buy a decent reel, not one that has to bullsh#t about it's capabilities!!
Dicey
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there are more competitive
there are more competitive reels at around $200-250 but sizes are smaller not 16000 sized.
MattMiller
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Old Style Seat?
Not sure what you mean by that?
Probably as a mid-weight jigging reel for demersals down here (Dhuies, Pinky's, Skippy etc.) some sambo work but probably not the barges. Also for jigging/ chucking lures in Exmouth.
I already have a 14000fa Sphero's/ T-curve 400 combo but am looking at a lower budget reel for second outfit running pe5 that's why i'm interested in these.
Havn't got a rod either just looking at all options
lurcha
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the reel seat is fat and it
the reel seat is fat and it has a lip which stops it from sliding into the rod propperly, fits fine in your older style rods but i had it in a catalina and it didnt fit in properly. we had to work it to get it in and it popped out. the reel in the pic doesnt have that so maybe they changed it but i had mine in april so wasnt that long ago. might be suitable for what you want to use it for but i dont think it would last if you were targeting the big sambos or gts. would probably hold up on the odd one but not on a regular basis. not saying they are a terrible reel just letting you know the issues i had with it. i did land sambos and ambers to 15kg on it. i just think you might be better off spending a little more and getting something like a saltist spin. you can get them on e bay for $215AU
Dicey
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instead of reel size or
instead of reel size or brand what line capacity are you looking for?http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://cdn2.ioffer.com/img/item/162/783/872/kjNY.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ioffer.com/si/fishing%2Breels&usg=__27TFtvABvC67bpCj3hpckeHzkZI=&h=390&w=300&sz=27&hl=en&start=0&sig2=_efn5V9bz6wHORAvaNZ_Jw&zoom=1&tbnid=jE0hwA1HKASJzM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=92&ei=p_6FTIXCFIiwcbnZyPEK&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dokuma%2Bsalina%2B2%2Bpic%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D475%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=411&vpy=129&dur=442&hovh=256&hovw=197&tx=134&ty=143&oei=p_6FTIXCFIiwcbnZyPEK&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0
compare that pic to your reel, where the reel seat is there is a hump on this model and the pic you have doesnt have it.
lurcha
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good work finding the pic,
good work finding the pic, mine had the hump on it
shanedm
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mate my cousin has one of
mate my cousin has one of these in the smaller size (i think around 5000) and i had a go with it for a few days on one of our fishing trips. like lurcha said the reels arent great by any means and the drag ratings are off but i guess you get what you pay for! from memory the 16000 was going on ebay brand new for something like 210 AUD so its pretty good if you are just after a lower budget combo. shud be fine for your standard demersals but not so sure how it would handle a decent sambo :p. if you want to spend a little more say 250ish you could try get your hands on one of the new ryobi safaris. i think the new ones are assembled in ryobi factory in china but the parts are still manufactured in japan. only problem is they only come in the 5000 size
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MattMiller
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ok
The pic i have is nicked off the Okuma site
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Shane, i've heard that the Ryobi's have a few issues too????
Be interesting to here if this is the experience that others have had. Main reason why i started this thread. This is the sort of info i'm after guys so thanks
Dicey
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daiwa oceano and daiwa
daiwa oceano and daiwa capricorn 4500J is awesome for the value considering 3-4 years ago they were what $500+? and 9kg max drag a smooth 9kg at that.
shanedm
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ive heard that they have
ive heard that they have issues too haha but the one ive got hasnt given any problems since we got it a few years ago. i got a few other friends who have used it fairly extensively for jigging in asia and the only prob i have heard is that one of the drag clickers stopped working. but yeah my safari has served me well over the years :). the new ones ARE sort of made in china tho...
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MattMiller
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Arn't they still in the $400
Arn't they still in the $400 price range?
Dicey
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nah man have a look at this
nah man have a look at this one in malaysia on ebay, http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Daiwa-Capricorn-4500J-Spinning-Reel-4500-J-/170536017961?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b4bd2029#ht_3555wt_724 if i had to recommend a jigging reel best bang for buck it would be that and it has a spare spool.
MattMiller
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Food for thought...
Food for thought...
Dicey
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oh yeh forgot to mention
oh yeh forgot to mention another reel that best bang for buck the abu soron stx in the. largest size.
MattMiller
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???
Don't know anything about them. Have they been tried locally?
Dicey
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tried and love by many
tried and love by many americans =) they are harsher on their gear then us, so far its thumbs up with it. note buying overseas you dont get warranty but to me the fishing i do its worth the risk saving the money then to get the warranty locally. can get it for $170-180 to your door, locally in another shop i saw it for $300 you decide.
Albee Mangles
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Stradics are worth a look
best bang for buck!!
MattMiller
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stradic
I've used stradics on beach/spin rods but if i was looking at shimano i'd just buy another Spheros.
MattMiller
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Anyone else,
have experience with thse reels?
Just1morecast
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Mine costed me 2 for 300aus
Mine costed me 2 for 300aus to my doorstep from ebay. I got 350m of 40lb stren braid on it. All I can say really so far until I use it.
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crasny1
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For a little more a Shimano Saragosa
I am a fussy bugger with reels. It has to "sound" good and smooth. Got talked into a 8000 up here in karratha when I moved up. New release then.
My reels from down south was just not up to the punch. Loved the 8000 so much I have 4000, 2 5000's (one with Poseidin, stolen by a unstopable out of the rod holder), an 8000 and a 14000. Havent had to go the big gun yet. I think the 18000 would be great for GT popping, and is the closest thing to a Stella for 1/3 the price.
Will be getting more as the arsenal changes.
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MattMiller
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$$$
Bit out of my price range i'm afraid
MattMiller
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Has anyone
had a chance to get out and use there Salina II?
Dale
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Yep, used mine a few times
Yep, used mine a few times down here out deep and it went pretty well, I have it married up with a 24kg Blue water Ugly Stick and 50lb whiplash. Drag locked up was good but I dont know how how many kg's it was. Smooth and easy handled too.
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