Outboard selection Pacemaker 560
Hi guys,
Picked up a great condition 560 charger a month ago and have just started to put it all back togethor now after gutting all the old gear out. I am a little hesitant to make a call on the new outboard size at the moment with recommendations either side of the fence.
I am looking at the three motors below but am a little unsure if the transom can safely take the extra weight of a 150. Have spoked to one of the members on here who has the df140 and was quite happy on the back of the same boat, but also have been out on the same boat with a F175 which handled really well off and had an unreal top speed and good economy for getting out wide!
I do a lot of trips to shark bay and exmouth and do some long trips to get too the areas i like to fish, likely to do runs out too the trench for marlin/YF when the water warms up as well.
Suzuki DF140 approx 50kg lighter and significantly cheaper
or
Suzuki DF150 / Yamah F150 much better torque and better cruising speed.
Any advice or experience going through the same decision process would be much appreciated!
squidvicious1
Posts: 824
Date Joined: 22/07/10
Get Ben punch from fibrelite
Get Ben punch from fibrelite to check the transom if your worried about the weight
on the back.
dodgy
Posts: 4577
Date Joined: 01/02/10
There is a big difference in
There is a big difference in torque between the smaller 2 litre 140 and the 2.8 litre 150 Suzuki’s.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
ranmar850
Posts: 2702
Date Joined: 12/08/12
Merc 1504 s will beat the lot of them
Hands down. 3 litre 4, punch well above their weight, particularly against the 150 Yamaha on the same boat. Around 25kg less than Df150, 12kg less than f150. But I would be looking at weight overall, what were they originally plated for? I know some of those old hulls had ridiculously high transom ratings.
HughRW
Posts: 17
Date Joined: 31/07/13
Cheers
Have got in touch with Ben Punch and going to drag the boat into his work shop in the next week or so for a look over and maybe a through hull transducer!
There are no plates on the boat for original rating, was hoping someone here might be able to shed some light!
Interesting about the Merc will definitely look into it.
Trimee
Posts: 100
Date Joined: 05/01/18
i agree with Ranmar we just
i agree with Ranmar
we just put a new 150 4 stroke merc on the boat it is has some guts to it and by memory it was one of the lightest 150's but it is a bloody good motor
SeperateKnob
Posts: 668
Date Joined: 28/11/16
The V doesn't look too deep,
The V doesn't look too deep, so I would go the 140hp Suz tried and tested. I would definitley look at raising the transom up to 25inch
Ryan C
Posts: 1575
Date Joined: 08/07/10
suzuki
if going with the suzuki 140 id make sure you get a 14 inch 20' pitch prop i tried 3 options on my 615 wr barcrusher (14x 19'20'21") and the 14x 20' pitch has the perfect mix of thrust/top end 36kts top and heaps of grunt when loaded .unbelievable economy ive averaged 2.4 km per litre over 3560L of fuel so far lots of high speed in that also ! can see up to 2.8km/l at 24kts
Backop
Posts: 7
Date Joined: 11/05/19
My be late but something to consider
fwiw I have just dropped a new Mercury 175hp V6 4 stroke onto a 5.6m Pacemaker Charger. Replaced a 135hp V6 2 stroke. Initial impression is very positive. Fuel pretty good so far and performance +45 knots. According to Peter Blowfield (Mr Pacemaker) the boat was one of his last fully hand layed units. He had no concerns with the transom for the new outboard.
Swompa
Posts: 3882
Date Joined: 14/10/12
I have the 9m pacemaker
I have the 6m pacemaker converted to a centre console. I run a 75 etec on it and max at 30 knots.
Just a FYI
Deckie
Posts: 1296
Date Joined: 03/04/09
Lighter.
The 115 Merc is 40kg lighter on the transom that the 150. Any reason you want to put 150 onto a 5.6m hull.....
Just asking as I have a 5.4 Caribbean that I am thinking of re-powering....
Cheers & Stay safe
SeperateKnob
Posts: 668
Date Joined: 28/11/16
Go the 140 and with the $
Go the 140 and with the $ saved raise the transom to 25 you’ll be grateful for the extra stern freeboard
HughRW
Posts: 17
Date Joined: 31/07/13
Bit of an update
Taken a while to get here but almost at the end now.
Ben Punch has been looking after raising the transom, cleaning up a bunch of penetrations, side pockets and a few other things...a lot more $ being spent than I had hoped but glad to have it done right!
Outboard selected is a white Suzi 140 which should be dropped onto it in the next couple of weeks, Simrad nss12 sounder and a few other things to install and we are away.