Placement of Hooks on Jigs with "squid skirts"

Hi all,

 

Ready to start some serious jigging.  got my jigging outfit, and about 6 different jigs so far, a mixture of octo jigs, and metals.

 

One thing I'm curious about is placement of hooks.  I've done a bit of reading on the site, and most people say that you attach the hooks to a split ring off the top tow point on the jig.  But what about when the jig has a squid skirt?  With Fanky and Daiwa Pirate jigs, they come rigged with the hooks off the bottom, and the squid skirt over the top of the hook/s.  Should I change this around?  Remove the squid skirt? or just add an extra hook to the top?

 

My jigs that I have range from 40g to 120g and I'll be using a PE 1.5-3 rod on a shimano stradic 5000 FJ reel, running 30lb braid.  Majority of my jigging will be done in around 20-40m.

thanks,

 

Justo


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one thing i forgot to ask. 

Tue, 2013-05-14 14:23

one thing i forgot to ask.  how does jigging go while anchored?  do you just drop it straight down, or cast out a few meters to get some angle on the retreive?  While anchored I'm assuming i'd be using jigs in the 40-60g range, then when drifting the heavier metals would come out...

 

thanks again.

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Tue, 2013-05-14 14:54

Put circle hooks on heavy sinker sum mulies and a bit of squid drop to the bottom ,now here comes the hard bit,put rod in rod holder and sit back with a coldy and enjoy the fact that you're not at work.Works at drift or anchor.

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lol, it's tough to do

Tue, 2013-05-14 15:01

lol, it's tough to do that.  not only does sitting back with a coldy work while drifting and anchoring, it also works on a saturday night on the couch watching the footy.

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 hahaha.. noice.

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 I disagree.

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shame

Tue, 2013-05-14 15:37

so not very often then...

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Tue, 2013-05-14 15:43

YEH,they improve,Big NICK will sort them out.

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Tue, 2013-05-14 16:32

 hi justin~~

lets picture do the talking~~

for the hook at the bottom, usually i just remove them,

because they are the major cause for losing a jig, they will tend to snag the reef when ur jig hit the bottom~

unless, u jig at a spot which do not have any structure at the bottom~~

usually i cast towards the current~

if you are anchored, cast where ur boat headed.. 

cheer kelvin ^_^

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Tue, 2013-05-14 16:38

opss~i missed out the pirate jig~

they are designed to hav the hooks at the bottom,

what can you do on them are replacing the hook set, tie with a stronger kelvar  assist cord and stronger hooks.

those are called ichiku jig by the japanese. it works like magic on bottom coloumn fish~~~

cheer kelvin~~

 

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 the hooks that come with the

Tue, 2013-05-14 19:03

 the hooks that come with the pirate jigs are bloody strong and sharp enough, no need to replace them. also, i prefer my squid skirt over my assist hooks. 

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Tue, 2013-05-14 19:25

 hi leemo~

haha~~

my bad, i had some experience with bad quality stock assist, 

thats why i change every stock hook~~lol~~~

and for the assist hook, i found there are not much different on the hook up rate back in malaysia~

yet to know how fish react to squid skirt in australia~~haha~~

cheer kelvin~

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 What assist hook is that

Tue, 2013-05-14 16:47

 What assist hook is that Kelvin? The back one.

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Tue, 2013-05-14 17:09

 hi mate,

those are hook by tsunami,

great and tough hook for jigging~

i brought them about few years ago~~

but i could not find them in the market anymore~

 

 

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 They look a bit like a

Tue, 2013-05-14 17:23

 They look a bit like a Hoodlum that I use for bottom bouncing. They are an awesome hook

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Tue, 2013-05-14 18:52

 hi mate,

they do look alike, but this hook is 8/0 in size,

the hoodlum size 8/0 have thicker body~

cheer kelvin~~

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 Thanks kelvin.   Do you have

Tue, 2013-05-14 17:24

 Thanks kelvin.   Do you have a hook in the squid skirt as well? Or remove it completely?

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Tue, 2013-05-14 19:16

 for normal metal jig, i will no have the squid skirt on, depends on different condition too~

squid skirt can be used when the fish are not active~

in the other hand, squid skirt are important for ichiku jig,

if im using a ichiku jig, i will change the stock assit hook n cord~~

as you can see in the picture,

the left assist cord is stock , and the right 1 is made by myself~

i used a stronger cord and bigger hooks~~

and i slide the squid skirt back into position as well~~

cheer kelvin~

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 What knot is that ???

Tue, 2013-05-14 18:44

 What knot is that ???

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Tue, 2013-05-14 19:20

 hi mate,

which knot you referring to?

if the knot on the leader, its the AG chain knot, its easy to tie as it just make up by lots of half hinch knot, u can learn it with youtube~ lots of video about it on you tube~

if the knot on the assist cord, it just simple knot with a half hinch on the cord and a half hinch to secure it to the swivel~

cheer kelvin~

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 Oh yea sorry im talking

Tue, 2013-05-14 19:24

 Oh yea sorry im talking about the leader cut off one

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As Leemo said, i also have

Tue, 2013-05-14 19:26

As Leemo said, i also have squid skirt over assist hook with bottom of hook lining up with tails on skirt. This way there is no confusion for the fish, if you have assist and skirt seperate fish my hit skirt and miss hook.

Use a lumo bead available from most tackle stores, above your hook on your assist cord this will stop skirt sliding down over hook to far and allows you to set where hook sits in skirt. assist cord then attaches to solid ring which you attach to split ring.

This example is for knife or fanky jigs. I found best place to have hook sitting on jig body is 3/4 way down jig body for larger length jigs 300-400 gram sometimes up to halfway up body for smaller 120-200gram. I never set length higher then 1/2 way. This will be personal preferance but found this has produced highest number of hook ups for me.

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Tue, 2013-05-14 20:01

 hi mate~

thanks for the info~

yea~ its all about personal preferance,

i tend to use the squid skirt to increase water resistance thus alter the jig motion.

also there are some of my fishing mate use assist hook with shorter length which just enough to cover the eyes area,

and they do catch fish too~~as they say fish tend to attack the head of their prey~

there are no absolute right or wrong in fishing as anything is possible~~~

muahahha~~~

its just all about personal preferance~~^_^

cheer kelvin~~

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Hook wise i use Owner SJ-41's

Tue, 2013-05-14 19:29

Hook wise i use Owner SJ-41's they are dynamite!

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one more thing.  I've always

Wed, 2013-05-15 14:28

one more thing.  I've always re-tied on my jigs every time I change them (in my vast experience in jigging.....lol), this is very time consuming.  Is it practical to use a clip of some sort?  If so, what do you all recommend.

 

thanks again.

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Wed, 2013-05-15 19:47

 hey justin~

as you can see in my picture~

the jig upper tow point are attached with a split ring,

when ever i feel like changing jig, i just remove the jig from the split ring and swap a new jig on~ 

cheer kelvin~

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Split rings is the way to go

Mon, 2013-06-03 07:58

Split rings is the way to go for qucky and easy jig changes. Kelvin that first squid looking jig jig you posted, looks like the jigs Anaconda were selling last week for $3 Each. They were selling 60g, 80g and 120g at this price. The heavier ones were $5 or so. Bargain i'd say!

 

 

 

 

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Mon, 2013-06-03 08:46

 hi mate,

the 1st jig you mean the 1st picture?

haha~ i dont think its the jigs selling at anaconda~~

because it is custom made by my friend~~ ^_^

cheer kelvin~~ ^_^

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Sabre KL were selling this AG

Tue, 2013-06-04 12:31

Sabre KL were selling this AG copies before.

 

There were originally made by AG -Taiwan.

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Tue, 2013-06-04 16:18

hi uluabuster,

yup~

the jig sabre kl selling might be the power jig brand.

my friend do not like the jig finishing, hence he mould the same jig and did his own finishing~~^_^

cheer kelvin~

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Wow Kelvin, aren't you lucky

Wed, 2013-06-05 14:44

Wow Kelvin, aren't you lucky to have a friend to make you those jigs! =]

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Wed, 2013-06-05 22:06

 hi mate~

yes i do feel lucky to have such friend~~haha~~^_^

cheer kelvin~~

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